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Seemannsdaemlack
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:25 pm 
 

Orden Ogan - The Things We Believe In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir_BVxBz5do

Tarabas - Bruderschaft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYPAglVlPtY

Almost the same chorus... (Tarabas was first)

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HamburgerBoy
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:13 pm 
 

droneriot wrote:
Random, but I remember on Korn's Issues album there's a song where Jon Davis uses almost exactly the same melody with almost exactly the same voice as the chorus of Alice in Chains' "Dirt" (the album's title track), does anyone remember what song it was?


Don't know that one, but Blind and Solitude Aeturnus' Pain have similar vocal melodies.

And on the nu metal theme, I was pretty amused to discover that one of my all-time favorite riffs, in Anacrusis' Killing my Mind, was also the main riff of apparently one of Slipknot's most famous songs.

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kalervon
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:32 am 
 

Most people know that American band It's a Beautiful Day's "Bombay Calling" (1969) is the song upon which Deep Purple built "Child in Time" (performed as early as September 1969), and of course there are many similarities as a result.

But Blackmore would also borrow this proto-riff from "Bombay Calling" (1969):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEKg9qyEQmw#t=2m55s

and re-use it from 1974 to 1975 in the live version of Deep Purple's "You Fool No One":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyDpvapIqLE#t=3m33s
(the album version doesn't have it)
and as the very opening of Rainbow's version of The Yardbirds "Still I'm Sad":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRpsA-UvJDg
which was recorded a few weeks before Blackmore's final show with Purple (that is, until the 1984 reunion).
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:44 pm 
 

These two songs by Scorpions, written by Uli Jon Roth and recorded one year apart, have a section which I always found similar:
Yellow Raven (1976)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESO0rpDtud8#t=3m45s
Your Light (1977)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQIQKDccO-Q#t=2m17s

Yesterday I met Uli after one of his shows (meet & greet), a show dedicated to revisiting his Scorpions era (during which they played Yellow Raven, but not Your Light), and asked him, basically, am I the only one to notice this, and if so, what's up with that ?

He told me no one pointed this out to him, and he himself never realized the similarity (in ~40 years).. but he thought about it and after humming for a while said.. "Yes, it is a bit similar, but different tempo, different key..". So I asked.. "So there is no connection then ?". He said.. "Maybe, but it wasn't done deliberately. Not deliberately, no."

Very cool guy, and a road warrior. My 4th time seeing him play, hopefully many more times to come.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:39 am 
 

Coven - Dignataries of Hell
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=o3JMNy8YLKw

The introduction its pure Black Sabbath's Electric Funeral.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=zXblsyZEv6w
@2:24

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:29 am 
 

The Exploited - Fuck the USA

The Exploited - Sid Vicious Was Innocent

GBH - City Baby Attacked By Rats

the heck?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:48 am 
 

Holy fuck, the slow part of Napalm Death's "Scum" is the fast part of Hellhammer's "Triumph of Death"?? I NEVER REALISED THAT!! I take it that's a tribute of sorts.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:32 am 
 

raspberrysoda wrote:


Actually, on that topic, the first link sounds a lot like Bathory's 13 Candles
https://youtu.be/AQ_A1noUCnI?t=49

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raspberrysoda
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:01 pm 
 

GoatBoat wrote:
Actually, on that topic, the first link sounds a lot like Bathory's 13 Candles
https://youtu.be/AQ_A1noUCnI?t=49


You mean, Bathory's 13 Candles sounds a lot like this.

I found another song which uses the EXACT SAME RIFF.

Adolescents - I Hate Children


EDIT: Another weird and unexpected similarity is this. Aren't the intros exactly the same?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:51 am 
 

droneriot wrote:
Holy fuck, the slow part of Napalm Death's "Scum" is the fast part of Hellhammer's "Triumph of Death"?? I NEVER REALISED THAT!! I take it that's a tribute of sorts.

Oh, the Peel Sessions version of "Deceiver" is also an almost exact copy of Repulsion's "The Stench of Burning Death". They definitely like to pay tribute to other bands, then.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:26 am 
 

It had been playing on my mind that the intro of Elvenking's Oakenshield sounded somewhat familiar...

and then I realised it reminded me quite closely of the intro of Helloween's Livin' Ain't No Crime!


And while it's no secret that Arkona have quite a black metal influence, they show it off very clearly with this riff:

Which sounds quite similar to Mayhem's Life Eternal (starting around 1:20)

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:19 am 
 

Vengeance Rising - Human Sacrifice (1984)



GWAR - The Apes of Wrath (2001)



The similarity is too strong to think this is not a rip-off.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:33 am 
 

I've been listening to a lot of Edguy lately, so here's some songs that sound similar to Edguy songs.

The intro and chorus to Saidian - The Princess sound like the chorus to Edguy - Vain Glory Opera. Not to mention, Saidian sounds a hell of a lot like Edguy, anyway.

Another one I noticed is that the intro to Awaken Solace - Escaping the Beast sounds a bit like the intro to Edguy - Golden Dawn, though the similarity isn't as apparent here. When I first heard it, though, I thought, "wait, this sounds really familiar to some power metal song, but I can't quite put my finger on it..."

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:21 am 
 

Behemoth - Rising Proudly Towards the Sky
I've definitely heard this riff somewhere else, anyone have any idea
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:13 pm 
 

Another case of same riff:
Behemoth - Summoning of the Ancient Ones
https://youtu.be/FIdQlZwCFnU

Hellishthrone - The Book of War
https://youtu.be/rmibwCuHfbw
@7:07 until the end.

And Mayhem tribute @ 2:17
https://youtu.be/Ih1LBjf5NJU
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brainbomb
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:25 pm 
 

I wouldn't even say this is a similarity. It's pretty much "Aces High"



great stuff though.

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at the gaytes
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:27 pm 
 

This and Death's Evil Dead (starts at 0:44)

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BURlAL
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:57 am 
 

Necrobiotik wrote:
Coven - Dignataries of Hell
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=o3JMNy8YLKw

The introduction its pure Black Sabbath's Electric Funeral.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=zXblsyZEv6w
@2:24


Have any of Sabbaths members mentioned Coven at all? Surely it all cant be a coincidence........just like the Venom & Bathory situation.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:31 pm 
 

Iommi was confronted to this once, on TV. His official comment has always been that Black Sabbath had been around, as Polka Tulk and Earth, way before Coven's album came out, and that the name Black Sabbath was influenced by a horror movie poster (movies Black Sunday and Black Sabbath were English dubbed versions of Italian movies).

The band had been together without interruption since January 1969 as Earth, and in August 1969 they changed their name to Black Sabbath. They took elements from their "Early One Morning Blues" jam and rewrote it as a song called "Black Sabbath".

When exactly in 1969 Coven's album came out ? I believe I read somewhere that it came out before August 1969. So let's say the band saw the record, thought it looked cool, and decided to rename themselves after the album's first song. I think it's very well plausible. The Black Sabbath movie came out in 1963 in Italy, probably a few years later only in England. Why all of a sudden did it become such an influence ? The Coven song is much more timely.

Then Electric Funeral was recorded for Paranoid, so much later, and indeed they had plenty of time to familiarize themselves with Coven's music by then.

One coincidence for sure is that a member of Coven is named Oz Osborne. Ozzy always claimed he got his nickname in primary school and I don't think he would make that up.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:00 pm 
 

Metallica's Welcome Home (Sanitarium) and Tourniquet's Swarming Spirits. Tourniquet pretty much ripped off one of Metallica's riffs in that song at the beginning when the lyrics start.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 3:30 pm 
 

Norther and Children of Bodom are very similar.

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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 3:54 pm 
 

Oh oh, I have a good one:

Listen to "Threnody", from Rotting Christ (2007), around 2:48.
Now listen to "He, the Great Worm", from Thou Art Lord (2005), around 0:40 onwards and then "The Gnostic Code" at ~1:35.

Yeah, I know, both bands are a project by Sakis Tolis, and there's a possibility he simply recycled the riff. Or maybe it is so subconsciously memorised by him he played the same riff twice without noticing?

There are other such "thematic" repetitions in multiple musics by Rotting Christ, check this other one:

Theogonia - Keravnos Kivernitos - 3:16 onwards
Theogonia - He, the Aethyr - 2:42 onwards
AEALO - Fire, Death and Fear - 3:10
Less similar, but in the same vein:
AEALO - Santa Muerte - 2:10
Κατά τον δαίμονα του εαυτού - (ditto for the music) - 2:06

These passages are not the very same, but they are similar. There is one other riff I found clones somewhere, but I need to listen to the stuff once more to tackle that one.

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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 11:27 am 
 

Sometimes black metal is so good even Carcass can't help sounding like it.

Mount of Execution has sections (after acoustic) reminiscent of The Devil Is Calling My Name by Hellsaw.

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 4:03 am 
 

"The Reprobate" (song) by Firespawn not only has a similar opening riff (at least the first part of it) to "Where The Slime Live" by Morbid Angel, but also the tempo and the drum pattern sound pretty much identical to my ears. Seems like a tribute to me, since I assume the guys in Firespawn know their OSDM.
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 10:46 pm 
 

Some 80s stuff..

the chorus melody line from this Gary Moore song (1982):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0gg4zY0oZ0#t=40s

reminds me of Dio's I Could Have Been a Dreamer (1987):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ienPq8iRKmk#t=62s

I love the Gary Moore video. Moore's head motions while strumming the first pre-chorus chords, Ian Paice's sideburns, Ian Paice, the keyboardist who looks like he would later play in Nelson and plays a piano which at times sound like an organ, Moore's proto-Top-Gun jacket, and Neil Murray.

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Now strictly lyrics wise, choruses again:

Black Sabbath's - No Stranger to Love (1986)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgaUxFC1qcM#t=128s

Whitesnake - Love ain't no Stranger (1984)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opu1H-Pmbh0#t=93s

Neil Murray on the bass again !

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And one last Purple family-related similarity:

Black Sabbath - Heart Like a Wheel (1986)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW6ddB-WmWU#t=178s

Rainbow - Stranded (1983)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZg8hcWnHcM#t=36s


The amazing thing is that these 5 videos feature:
Ian Paice, Richie Blackmore, Roger Glover, Glenn Hughes, David Coverdale and Joe Lynn Turner from Deep Purple; Jon Lord's keyboards can be heard on the Whitesnake track as well
Ronnie James Dio, Jimmy Bain and Cozy Powell from Rainbow, in addition to the Rainbow line-up who plays on the song (Turner, Glover, Burgi, Rosenthal, Blackmore)
RJD, Cozy Powell, Neil Murray and Vinny Appice from Black Sabbath, in addition to the Black Sabbath line-up who plays on the song (Iommi, Singer, Spitz, Hughes, Nichols)
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 6:07 am 
 

And here's not even a similarity but pretty much a 100% rip-off:

Violence Jack - Jackaholic

vs

Therion - In Remembrance

Why did Therion decide to copy a riff from rapey and violent obscure 80's anime? Guess we will never know.

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TheWaltzer wrote:
"The Reprobate" (song) by Firespawn not only has a similar opening riff (at least the first part of it) to "Where The Slime Live" by Morbid Angel, but also the tempo and the drum pattern sound pretty much identical to my ears. Seems like a tribute to me, since I assume the guys in Firespawn know their OSDM.


Where The Slime Lives has influenced a lot of death metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvMuf8M1ZZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BmdJ4I6Fa0
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:37 am 
 

Folkemon_ wrote:
TheWaltzer wrote:
"The Reprobate" (song) by Firespawn not only has a similar opening riff (at least the first part of it) to "Where The Slime Live" by Morbid Angel, but also the tempo and the drum pattern sound pretty much identical to my ears. Seems like a tribute to me, since I assume the guys in Firespawn know their OSDM.


Where The Slime Lives has influenced a lot of death metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvMuf8M1ZZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BmdJ4I6Fa0


I am not going to dispute that - the Mithras song is probably the least subtle of them all. But I don't even mind, I love "Where The Slime Live".
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 7:46 am 
 

Xenonas wrote:
And here's not even a similarity but pretty much a 100% rip-off:

Violence Jack - Jackaholic

vs

Therion - In Remembrance

Why did Therion decide to copy a riff from rapey and violent obscure 80's anime? Guess we will never know.
That youtube video is just some music played while showing a still picture. Do you have proof that this music was used in an animation in the 80s ? The poster originally wrote "Like some sort of mash up mix?" 5 years ago.
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Buried Dreamer wrote:
Oh oh, I have a good one:

Listen to "Threnody", from Rotting Christ (2007), around 2:48.
Now listen to "He, the Great Worm", from Thou Art Lord (2005), around 0:40 onwards and then "The Gnostic Code" at ~1:35.

Yeah, I know, both bands are a project by Sakis Tolis, and there's a possibility he simply recycled the riff. Or maybe it is so subconsciously memorised by him he played the same riff twice without noticing?

There are other such "thematic" repetitions in multiple musics by Rotting Christ, check this other one:

Theogonia - Keravnos Kivernitos - 3:16 onwards
Theogonia - He, the Aethyr - 2:42 onwards
AEALO - Fire, Death and Fear - 3:10
Less similar, but in the same vein:
AEALO - Santa Muerte - 2:10
Κατά τον δαίμονα του εαυτού - (ditto for the music) - 2:06

These passages are not the very same, but they are similar. There is one other riff I found clones somewhere, but I need to listen to the stuff once more to tackle that one.


You'll have some pain. since Sakis has been recycling a specific set of riffs ever since Sanctus Diavolos (the Athanati Este vibe even from older stuff).

Listen the first minute of this track, remember all 3 first riffs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7zlMqvQd8M

Variation of the first riff/same vibe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syMDP5xhCbo

A more similar variation of the Sanctus Diavolos track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hOfNukY6Og

Another variation of the riff, this time more similar to Keravnos
https://youtu.be/wdasUo-RDJA?t=140

Same thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0GJG4jD1oo

And here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hOfNukY6Og

I haven't heard the last one, but I'm sure that you'll find at least one of those riffs recycled once again.
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I always tell people, "I think 'Nuke the Cross' by Toxic Holocaust was better in the 80's, when Carnivore released it under the name 'Sex and Violence.'"

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:01 pm 
 

Just a few seconds..

Raven - Faster than the Speed of Light (1982)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgOuBkQPQt8#t=1m58s
and
Iron Maiden - Aces High (1984)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg9aQvjMS60#t=2m22s

I also hear some of Rush's Analog Kid (1982), but it'S too vague to isolate
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:59 am 
 

On the new Unleash The Archer's album, the second track "Shadow Guide" sounds and generally feels a lot like 3 Inches Of Blood's "Deadly Sinners".

There isn't a youtube video of the new UtA song, so I can't supply a link.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:23 am 
 

SlevinKelevra wrote:
the beginning of Mutiilation- Eggs of Melancholy
sounds an awful lot like a certain Cranberries track.


You're not wrong. Kinda fitting too considering his gimmick.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:32 pm 
 

Amorphis - Smithereens
This sounds like something a 60's or so rock band did but I can't figure out who
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:29 pm 
 

Smithereens is actually either a nod to Pink Floyd's Echoes (1971):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm0VBWnUhvU#t=3m47

Or to The Phantom of the Opera (1986):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHQnfqtUTNk

Probably the former.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:49 am 
 

Holy cow, the beginning of Sodom - Styptic Parasite just made me think of The Office :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wPjjDQsFSo
https://youtu.be/_au0UUHI2aI?t=13

A more proper one though, which I'm very surprised hasn't been mentioned according to the search function:

Exodus - And Then There Were None. The characteristic pre-chorus, or whatever it's called, with the oooh-part, about 0:50-1:02
https://youtu.be/3miILr1faRk?t=50

Overkill - Mad Gone World, about 1:53-2:03
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:48 pm 
 

Wow, the first track on the new Hellripper album, Bastard of Hades is basically Metal Militia.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:14 pm 
 

Birdflesh - Flamencorpse
Donkey Kong - Hammer music

Come again?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:00 pm 
 

Sometime in the early 90s after having assimilated most of Purple's catalog and then seeing a live version of Master of Puppets on TV, it dawned on me that Space Truckin', especially in its live versions, might have been quite an influence on Master of Puppets.

The way that Ian Paice stands up and hits his cymbal and mutes it after each hit while the guitar and Marhsall fueled organ go: G-F-D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTJO2nqM0pI#t=1m39s
reminds me of Metallica for instance here (2m20s):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujwiWjJLwBg#t=2m20s
though the chord sequence is chromatic:
D-C#-C
and at a faster tempo, and he hits both cymbals..

but seriously, Lars raved in so many interviews about watching Deep Purple as a kid back when he lived in Denmark in the 70s and how it had an profound effect on him.
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