Oubliette just sped up the riff from the song "Om du var här" by swedish rock band Kent on their "The Curse".



0:25 seconds in.



0:45 seconds in.

Yeah, there are similarities, but that's a fairly common melody, I've heard it on a decent number of songs.

at the beginning it's more vague but at about the 2:45 mark of this atlantean kodex track i can clearly hear the tune from wheel of sun. it couldn't be a coincidence; i hear an immense bathory influence in practically all their songs. they could be called nordland with clean vocals, not that I have a problem with that. the more the merrier:
the course of empire - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziORG2re35Y
wheel of sun - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwe1IL7z3Go

Cool, can you think of any examples?

That song is amazingly good! Thanks for a potentially new band discovery! Yeah, the epicness and guitar tone is very similar to the Nordland 1 & 2 albums.

The Status Quo - Pictures of Matchstick Men (1968)
https://youtu.be/NP6RzRfVlpA
the part from 1:41 to 1:48 seems to have made its way in
Scorpions - I'm Going Mad (1971 version)
https://youtu.be/eeNdsaCwQyE
1:10 to 1:15
or the 1972 album version:
https://youtu.be/LgD12JZuKNk
0:49 to 0:55

I can't let this one go.


General Surgery - Necrology (1991)
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/G ... ology/7695


Funebre - Cranial Torment (2012)
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/F ... ent/340675

I'm curious what the source of the art is too

If I remember correctly, it is a picture of medieval autopsy. And, well, Funebre used it first on their demo back in 1989. Killer Finnish death metal!

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/F ... ment/21446

I binged Ludicra's albums yesterday and noticed that the main riff on In Fever bares resemblance to the main riff from Metal Church's The Spell Can't Be Broken.

That would definitely explain why I can't find an artist for the original image anywhere, nor could I really tell what it was. I always thought it was a classical picture of surgery (the guy getting drilled looks like he's strapped down and screaming), also explains the weird wizard-looking hats. Still, is that guy in the middle on Necrology smiling?

Carcass - Pyosisified (Rotten to the Gore) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5j_dEaBigo at 0:43

Revenge - Death Heritage (Built Upon Sorrow) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBSrRCmUhfI at 0:30

The middle part of Rainbow's Stargazer (the chromatic run up towards the end of Ritchie's solo, before the final verse comes in) is just like the chromatic run up in Led Zeppelin's Kashmir (towards the outro).

Also the intro riff to the Scorpions' Always Somewhere is very similar to Simple Man by Lynyrd Skynyrd despite changing a chord in the progression

gestapothrash: see my post from 20 Apr 2014 07:46 on Scorpions similarities.

True re: Stargazer vs. Kashmir

I think Seventh Star by Black Sabbath (feat. Tony Iommi) and Blue Murder's Valley of the Kings owe to both.

Whitesnake's Judgment Day obviously rips off Kashmir.

Savatage vs. Black Sabbath

Morphine Child (2001) has a riff reminescent of Heaven and Hell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzDRwx4AnFk#t=264s
for instance, from 4:24 to 4:32

Conversation Piece (1993) is reminescent of Zero the Hero:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDqG0eDOShs#t=94s

Now I gotta make myself a cup of tea..

Metal and not metal. The Twisted Nails of Faith by Cradle of Filth and Hit and Run by Skazi. Same guitar riff late in the song.

Songs borrowing from, or in the style of, Children of the Grave by Black Sabbath.. am I forgetting any ?

Danzig
Am I Demon (1988)

Artch
Metal Life (1988)

Black Sabbath
Devil & Daughter (1989) - wait for the verses

Heaven in Black (1990)

Elevator
I Wonder What is Sane (2005) - also a Paranoid rip-off

Amorphis
Godlike Machine (2009)


Stryper
Yahweh (2015)

Take it to the Cross (2018)


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The first instants of "Sentient" by Anathema sound like the PS1 opening logo theme

A long ass time ago I read on some metal related webpage that called Children of the Grave Sabbath's most influential riff, and I got to agree. Countless stoner, doom, AND trad heavy metal bands copped that same gallop. Are you missing any, of course you are, there's just too many to count.

Super mega obscure one, but "Samhain" from Heinrichreich's "Druid" album has a piano melody which sounds EXACTLY like the Cor Noth theme from the 90's MMO Meridian 59.

Has anyone else noticed also that the main riff from "Det Som Engang Var" sounds SUSPICIOUSLY like the melody from Death In June's "Heaven Street"?

I just listened to Therions new album Leviathan for the first time. The song Great Marquis From Hell comes on and I immediately recognize parts of the chorus. I think they've gotten fair bit of inspiration from Hammerfalls Glory to the Brave. They even end the first phrase on the same word (forever). The riff chugging after the solo also sounds very Hammerfall (but granted this is in the style of Therion metal riffing as well):

Pagan Altar's into 70s rock for loads of obvious reasons, and '70s hard rock bands tend to share a lot of riffs, so I'm not surprised with common chord progression in the main riffs here:



There are probably plenty of other NWOBHM and 80s glam metal bands who use this same riff (it even sounds like a Saxon riff to me and I barely listen to any Saxon to know better), but hearing it in the most traditional of traditional-doom metal bands is a half-surprise.


Also, call me crazy, but I'd argue Sabbath Bloody Sabbath has a claim to fame for having a fairly wide impact in hard rock and heavy metal, even if not at the same level of Children of the Grave (the progression in Children is just better for high-speed tracks). You can hear it in many, many places...





... to the point I swear I could hear a coked-up version in Queen of all places.


At 12 seconds. You hear it too, right? Even if it's not the case, you'll never unhear it now!

That one epic sounding riff from the Halo games is extremely similar to a part in Mentally Blind by Death, in Halo the only difference is the length of the chords. Riff starts at 1:42. I remember back in the day I made a thread about it on the Bungie forum and it was a shitshow. Good times.

Any SOAD fan worth their salt will listen to that main riff and immediately go, "Haaaaang on a second, this sounds way too familiar."




Now for a much different kind of DOOM

At Doom's Gate


Sounds like it could've come from two different places

Either Slayer


Or DRI



And now from DOOM to Doom

This is probably the funniest coincidence in the whole thread

So oppressing, so heavy, so spooky...
So...

If I Remember correctly, "Behind the Crooked Cross" actually sounds way more similar in E3M3's music (Doom, Pandemonium). As in almost the same...

(Sorry if my wording is somewhat awkward, I know that "Cross..." is from '88 and Doom from '93)

This might go into the thread about bands using parts of other songs because there's no way in Hell they didn't know, but I guess it can fit here

Here's Orchid's Down Into the Earth

Start at 4:44

And here's Witchfinder General's Requiem for Youth

Start at 0:00

Is that not the exact same riff? It obviously is and like I said, in a genre as insular as traditional doom metal, Orchid was obviously playing homage to it. Saying otherwise would be like Greta van Fleet saying they aren't inspired by Led Zeppelin.

The Dreadful Hours by My Dying Bride also has a very similar part to the intro of Children of the Grave starting at around 3:50 mark.

Others have posted relevant extracts by Mercyful fate and MDB from 1998 and 2001 respectively. It would be nice to find a song from before 1988 though. Surenly there must have been NWOBHM, speed or early thrash metal bands using the same pattern ? I know Iron Maiden built a career around galloping riffs, but I can't really pinpoint any of their songs to Children of the Grave.

"Kingmaker" from Megadeth's Super Collider sounds similar to Children of the Grave during the verses.

Yup..
Remembered two more:

Elevator Through - Fluidmonogleestran (1999)
though it is more apparent on the demo version. Energy, off the same album, has a similar feel.

Warriour Soul - Intro (1991)
First time I heard this song was live, and I thought they were starting their set with a cover of Children of the Grave for a few seconds.

funny story, my band, who at risk of getting booted, I will not mention the name of, actually released a demo in I think early 2020 or really late 2019, but it had a riff that sounded a lot like zombie apocalypse by mortician, and like a few days after it dropped, fluids released ignorance exhalted and one of the riffs sounded almost exactly the same as mine. I'm pretty close in with Jan and the crew and we knew we both loved mortician, so there was no hard feelings, it was funny as hell though.


good times, good times.

4:00 onwards
If I recall, the whole point was literally take to make a riff heavier than Children of the Grave and the heavy-riff from Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, and to my ears, this one sounds like Children sped up about 4x.

It's also arguably more the galloping feel than the riff itself, but I've always thought of "Death's Row" as Pentagram's answer to Children of the Grave.

Well, it's no secret that Greg loves Celtic Frost, and Morbid Tales is one of his favorite albums.

Similar riff around 0:17.





Odious Bliss probably inspired in Visions of Mortality and especially the fast part around 1:16.



Fast part around 2:40.

I can it hear now. This riff became even more inluential after Metallica covered it. Sacrifice used it as the main riff during verses in Re-animation (1987)
And there's another riff in Am I Evil ? that's plainly lifted from Deep Purple's Flight of the Rat (1970); also used by Black Sabbath in Under the Sun (1972): viewtopic.php?f=1&t=100845&p=2571881

I was binging Judas Priest's catalog recently and I noticed that the verse in "Metal Gods" from the British Steel album sounds a lot like "Lay It Down" from Ratt's Invasion of Your Privacy.

One I can't place: From Amorphis's first album, the keyboard part at about 1:07 of "The Pilgrimage" sounds so familiar, but I'm not sure from where.

The Endmills by Portal from 3:00 onwards



and Urfaust - Auszug aller tödlich seinen Krafte from 7:00



Sounds like it might have been sampled from some old strange film, but no idea from what.

This:
(0:55-1:11)

Sounds almost exactly like this:
(1:17-1:41)

I was revisiting Diamond Head and realized that a part of The Prince (1980) could have influenced Raven.
From 5:32 to about 5:45:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjnwOVaI7V8#t=5m32s
compared with :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6R77GcGFLA#t=1m55s

I was listening to Europe's Cherokee (https://youtu.be/LMONTXnBYvk) for the first time in a very long time, and the opening chords are relatively the same as Since You've Been Gone's, popularized in hard rock circles by Rainbow (https://youtu.be/1P17ct4e5OE)