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Zerberus
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2022 4:36 am 
 

firelord_ wrote:
Really can't agree with the Necropolis cover. To me it suffers in the same way most rerecordings of old material do- nailing the notes but completely missing the intricacies of atmosphere and delivery. To put it bluntly, the Visigoth version sounds like a bunch of (enthusiastic) dudes doing a pub karaoke while the original actually evokes some kind of sword-and-sorcery vibe. Would've loved to hear Eternal Champion cover it instead though, Visigoth has always struck me as a bit shallow.



I feel like Eternal Champion would play it extremely well, but what would be the point? They would more or less just sound like the original.
I agree with your critique to the extent that many covers miss what made the original special (see Disturbed's cover of Sound of Silence), but if you want a cover version to sound close to the original, then why not just listen to the original? What Visigoth adds to Necropolis is some power and more modern production sensibilities that I sometimes find myself missing in the original, depending on my mood.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2022 6:23 am 
 

I guess my point was that with Necropolis otherwise being such a standard heavy metal/hard rock song the original vibe is necessary to make it at all interesting. I also commented in the context of the cover somehow being better than the original, which it absolutely isn't. Even as a Visigoth song it sounds downscaled and way less interesting than what they usually write. If I were to get really nerdy about it I'd say that Visigoth covered it in their usual "more is more" fashion whereas Crystal Logic is the essential "less is more" epic heavy metal. I think EC woulda been a bit more sensitive to those aspects even if they wouldn't have to copy it exactly :p

I do agree that it's way cooler when bands do covers in their own style (especially when it breaks genre!), but apart from the added vocal harmonies the Visigoth cover sounds run-of-the-mill enough to be inferior to the original every day of the week, imo.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2022 2:58 am 
 

This will seem a little out of left field but as a fan of the original, Floor Jansen's cover of M83's "Oblivion" destroys the original. The final sixty seconds legit moved me to tears.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 1:35 am 
 

As a young boy, I grew up on The Beatles. And usually the vast majority of bands covering a Fab Four song blow. Deep Purple’s Help cover on Shades of Deep Purple is much better than the original (which is way too upbeat).

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CreepingDeath16
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 3:29 pm 
 

EpicSceptic wrote:
Man this one is tough, I don't know if I'd say the Virus cover of The Walker Brothers' "Shutout" is outright better than the original but I like them equally, at the very least

I sadly have to disagree here. I love Virus, but here they fail and really shouldn't have even tried. The cover severely lacks the otherworldly atmosphere of the original and the guitar solo seems like a bad joke in comparison to the original's blistering yet precise solo. If they really wanted to cover Scott Walker, for example Track Three from Climate of Hunter would have lended itself much better.
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Niolu
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 4:48 am 
 

I really like Motorhead's Whiplash better than Metallica's

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Tiam Kara
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:49 am 
 

I like Alterbeast’s version of Dissection’s “Where Dead Angels Lie” more than the original. The higher tempo sounds better to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:19 am 
 

marktheviktor wrote:
As a young boy, I grew up on The Beatles. And usually the vast majority of bands covering a Fab Four song blow. Deep Purple’s Help cover on Shades of Deep Purple is much better than the original (which is way too upbeat).


Not metal, but Joe Cocker's cover of 'With a Little Help from My Friends' might be the greatest cover ever recorded.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:58 am 
 

Pathfinder's cover of Mike Oldfield's "Moonlight Shadow" is stupid good. Something about the tune is already super power metal anyway, so hearing it bolstered by sweeps and double bass is godly.

Same goes for their cover of "Forever Young". Unworldly good.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:58 pm 
 

Niolu wrote:
I really like Motorhead's Whiplash better than Metallica's



I absolutely prefer Motorhead's cover of "God Save the Queen" over the original.

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Miikja
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:38 pm 
 

I enjoy Omit's cover of "Feel the Misery" more than the original by My Dying Bride.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:18 pm 
 

I will put some covers I like, some are metal, some of them not:
Jimi Hendrix:All along the watchtower
Quiet Riot:Cum on feel the noise
Johnny Cash:Hurt
Judas Priest:The green manalishi
Grand Funk:Gimme Shelter
Metallica:Die, die my darling
Living Colour:Memories cant wait
Creedence:I heard it Through the grapevine

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Rovineye
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:40 pm 
 

Motörhead's cover of Breaking the Law. I love Lemmy's vocals on it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:24 pm 
 

markoff_chaney wrote:
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Not metal, but I really like Johnny Cash's covers of "Hurt" and "Hung My Head"..


Personally I think NIN's "Hurt" and Johnny Cash's "Hurt" are about equal, but JC definitely does "Hung My Head" better. If we're gonna discuss non-metal covers, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds' "The Carnival Is Over" is beautiful, whereas The Seekers' version is soppy, sentimental rubbish. Nick Cave is talented that way.



I completely disagree about "Hung my Head".

Johnny Cash destroyed that song, IMO.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:13 am 
 



Yeah, for me is better than the original.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:19 am 
 

Benedict Donald wrote:
Ozzy-era Sabbath - Arguably the *most* covered metal band ever, yet I've never heard a single cover-version of their songs done even remotely better than the originals.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:58 am 
 

MetalHealth30 wrote:
Not metal, but I really like Johnny Cash's covers of "Hurt" and "Hung My Head".

Cash's cover of Hurt has become so popular, that alot of people don't know that it's a NIN song (I know I didn't for the longest time).

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kovner1972
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:12 am 
 

Carnival In Coal's French Cancan has some cool covers of famous (non metal) songs.
Genesis' hit song 'Mama' (or is it Phil Collins' solo career?) is especially a cool one, as well as the timeless 'Maniac' song from the Eighties motion picture 'Flash Dance'.
On the metal side of things there is the Fall From Grace Morbid Angel cover. The lamest cover though is Pantera's Fucking Hostile, which is simply weak, but then again, I am not familiar with the original song, and has never cared for Pantera in any shape or form, so...

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In_Zane
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:48 am 
 

Does Motörheads version of ''Hellraiser'' count as a cover? I mean, Lemmy wrote it...

Either way, it's far superior to Ozzys.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:40 am 
 

Benedict Donald wrote:
Ozzy-era Sabbath - Arguably the *most* covered metal band ever, yet I've never heard a single cover-version of their songs done even remotely better than the originals.




Charles Bradley's version is great, but I like this one much more.

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EvergreenSherbert
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:55 am 
 

Carpathian Forest's cover of "A Forest" by The Cure is beautiful in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:04 pm 
 

Serbian band Claymorean do an incredible version of Virgin Steele's Burning of Rome (Cry For Pompeii). I actually like it better than the original because I never really liked DeFeis's vocals on their version. His squeals can get annoying.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:39 am 
 

I really like Urfaust's two Ildjarn covers, especially Skogens hatefulle skapning gets a totally different spin in their hands.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:01 pm 
 

The first 3 that always come to mind first for me:

Primal Fear - Die Young (Black Sabbath. Hard to top Dio, but wow, this cover packs some serious punch)
Cradle Of Filth - Hallowed Be Thy Name (always loved it more than the Maiden one, and since they did the remix/remaster, it's even better)
Metallica - Astronomy (Would love to hear Metallica write an entire album of songs like this - with James in more of a storytelling lyric mode)

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CreepingDeath16
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:10 am 
 

jimbies wrote:
Cradle Of Filth - Hallowed Be Thy Name (always loved it more than the Maiden one, and since they did the remix/remaster, it's even better)

It's a good cover, but I don't prefer it to the original. What I do prefer is COF's version of Sodom's Sodomy and Lust.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:51 am 
 

Sepultura - Orgasmatron(original by Motorhead)
Sepultura - Symptom of the Universe(original by Black Sabbath)
Sepultura - The Hunt(original by New Model Army)
Metallica - Whiskey in the Jar(original by Thin Lizzy)
Emperor - A Fine Day to Die(original by Bathory)
Metallica - Die, Die My Darling(original by Misfits)
Metallica - Turn the Page(original by Bob Seger)
Anthrax - Antisocial(original by Trust)

Can't remember much else right now.

As for Painkiller, which was mentioned by many, I don't think any cover of this song was ever better than the original, but if I had to mention one that I think got really close to surpassing the original, that would be Angra's rendition. I don't like Death's version that much, tbh. Not only the vocals were subpar, as much as I love Chuck, but the instrumentals also lacked something imo.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:16 pm 
 

Napalm death : Nazi punks...
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Benedict Donald
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:48 pm 
 

gzusrocker wrote:

As for Painkiller, which was mentioned by many, I don't think any cover of this song was ever better than the original, but if I had to mention one that I think got really close to surpassing the original, that would be Angra's rendition. I don't like Death's version that much, tbh. Not only the vocals were subpar, as much as I love Chuck, but the instrumentals also lacked something imo.


Agreed. The Death cover is shockingly weak.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:20 pm 
 

for me the Altar version of "Fast as a shark" is much more heavy and brutal than the original from Accept. Another one would be "Outbreak of Evil" from Eternal Solstice
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:56 pm 
 

Burton78 wrote:
Johnny Cash:Hurt
Judas Priest:The green manalishi


THIS!!! Esp. Hurt. It's just... ONE OF THE GREATEST THINGS EVER.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:57 pm 
 

"Antisocial", orig. by Trust, cover by Anthrax. ANTHRAX's is WAY BETTER. The Trust version is good, but no more than that.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:08 pm 
 

Priests version of The Green Manalishi is great and fun, but it doesnt touch the original imo. Its way more rocking but loses some of the darkness that Green instilled into it.

Cradle Of Filths version of Hallowed Be Thy Name is pretty incredible, but still doesnt touch the original. Bruce vs Dani Filth on vocals is the tide turner.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:08 am 
 

Well, I always liked how Paradise Lost manage to superbly cover pop/mainstream songs (The Bronski Beat, The Smiths, Everything But A Girl...)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:37 am 
 

Xymosys wrote:
Well, I always liked how Paradise Lost manage to superbly cover pop/mainstream songs (The Bronski Beat, The Smiths, Everything But A Girl...)


Their version of "How Soon Is Now" surpasses the original, IMO.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:57 am 
 

Benedict Donald wrote:
Xymosys wrote:
Well, I always liked how Paradise Lost manage to superbly cover pop/mainstream songs (The Bronski Beat, The Smiths, Everything But A Girl...)


Their version of "How Soon Is Now" surpasses the original, IMO.


You're kidding! I thought it wasn't bad but rather unnecessary and I just can't get into their oomphed up take on Dead Can Dance's Xavier either.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:00 am 
 

There isn't a single Sabbath cover better than the original that I've heard but Charles Bradley's soulful take on Changes is the only version I need of that song. Didn't like the original much, though.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:28 am 
 

I love how Testament metallized Aerosmith's 'Nobody's Fault'. It's a fun and upbeat piece on the mostly very murky album, 'The New Order'.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:49 am 
 

Metal_On_The_Ascendant wrote:
Benedict Donald wrote:
Xymosys wrote:
Well, I always liked how Paradise Lost manage to superbly cover pop/mainstream songs (The Bronski Beat, The Smiths, Everything But A Girl...)


Their version of "How Soon Is Now" surpasses the original, IMO.


You're kidding! I thought it wasn't bad but rather unnecessary and I just can't get into their oomphed up take on Dead Can Dance's Xavier either.


I'd say most covers are unnecessary, but I do indeed prefer theirs to the Smiths' original.

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Metal_On_The_Ascendant wrote:
There isn't a single Sabbath cover better than the original..


Agreed 100%.

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HalfdanTheBlack
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 2:25 pm 
 

Benedict Donald wrote:
Metal_On_The_Ascendant wrote:
There isn't a single Sabbath cover better than the original..


Agreed 100%.


I agree as well, but I have a soft spot for the 'Children of the grave' version by Ozzy with Randy Rhoads (Tribute) and for the 'Electric funeral' by Paul Chain (already covered live by the 83-84 Death SS line-up).

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