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ViKing503
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:06 pm 
 

James LaBrie really, really gets to me, especially when he does those fucking horrible rapping sequences in the more recent releases. He can hit some great highs, but on albums like Awake, when he tries to sound more intimidating (or just sing at a lower pitch), I cringe. Its just bad. Explains why I prefer Liquid Tension Experiment so much to Dream Theater.

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Woolie_Wool
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:22 pm 
 

I can't recall James LaBrie doing any "rap" sections since Train of Thought. The bit in "Prophets of War" is done by Mike Portnoy, and vocals of any type are not Mike's strong suit. The fake death metal vocals done by Portnoy and LaBrie on "The Dark Eternal Night" were terrible, though, and inexcusable considering that Portnoy worked with Mikael Akerfeldt for "Repentance" and could have used him to do the vocals.

As for Awake, the low-register and gritty vocals worked very well on that album, but after the vocal cord rupture in 1995, he's completely lost that ability. Listen to early live recordings from the Images and Words tour and you'd be surprised at the intensity and fury of his old Bobby-Blitz-meets-Rob-Halford screams.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:07 pm 
 

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Dear God. I can't believe there is a market for this. There is absolutely no excuse for anyone to listen to this if they have listened to death metal, brutal death metal or thrash already.

It sounds like a metalcore band trying to be even more brutal and it is even worse than regular metalcore.


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CertainDeath
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:12 am 
 

Nyaricus wrote:
Everyone NEEDS to listen to this band, and then laugh at how fucking terrible the vocals are.

http://www.myspace.com/northernshadowsofficial

His death growls are inhaled and his black metal vocals are like a cross between Donald Duck and Golum with a sore throat. I've seen them live, and it's fucking laughable. Shameful they are from Winnipeg.


Hah, my friend is the lead guitarist of that band. It's such a waste of his skill, he is a good guitarist. The vocalist sucks so bad and he is unforgivably stupid to boot.

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thrashfan07
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:43 am 
 

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thrashfan07 wrote:


Dear God. I can't believe there is a market for this. There is absolutely no excuse for anyone to listen to this if they have listened to death metal, brutal death metal or thrash already.

It sounds like a metalcore band trying to be even more brutal and it is even worse than regular metalcore.
Can you believe that even on this site, people are claimin this is one of the BETTER deathcore bands? Shit, I consider these guys, along with Waking the Cadaver and IWABO, to be the absolute worst of all deathcore. The only deathcore-ish band I can say that I enjoy is The Faceless, and at least they have the decency to make the riffs AUDIBLE, and the vocals not way at the front.

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lord_ghengis
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:53 am 
 

I've onlt heard two Suicide Silence songs, one which someone compared to Gutteral Secrete on this forum to show the difference between Brutal Death Metal and Deathcore. I honestly didn't mind that song, but this one is pretty poor. So many break downs...
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:08 am 
 

About 3/4 into Inn I Slottet Fra Droemmen, by Burzum, Varg lets out a short scream that sounds like a female orgasm from a very tacky porno movie. :ugh:
But otherwise, excellent song.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:15 am 
 

Ozzy. God I can't stand his singing. There are many Black Sabbath songs I love, but his voice is so god damned flat.

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Cryptwatcher
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:35 am 
 

The vocalist of Atreyu makes me want to vomit. Corey Taylor makes me want to kill myself. :lol:
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Nyaricus
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:18 am 
 

Woolie_Wool wrote:
He sounds like Shagrath to me. The melodic stuff that the guitarist does is pretty good.

They're definitely power metal, and should get an appropriate vocalist.

Oh yeah, the instrumentals are not even half-bad, even catchy and verging on something bigger and better, but that vocalist kills it DEAD. And yeah, the vocalist is definitely trying to be a Dimmu knock-off - I've heard that a few times from local metalheads, tbh.

CertainDeath wrote:
Nyaricus wrote:
Everyone NEEDS to listen to this band, and then laugh at how fucking terrible the vocals are.

http://www.myspace.com/northernshadowsofficial

His death growls are inhaled and his black metal vocals are like a cross between Donald Duck and Golum with a sore throat. I've seen them live, and it's fucking laughable. Shameful they are from Winnipeg.


Hah, my friend is the lead guitarist of that band. It's such a waste of his skill, he is a good guitarist. The vocalist sucks so bad and he is unforgivably stupid to boot.

Yeah, that's one thing I've noticed: that fucking singer is a dipshit. He wears Misfits shirts at his gigs playing folk metal; I don't think punk could be any further removed from folk metal, for fucks sake. And it's great how he has that Trivium tattoo on his arm. Must try to hide that one like a squirrel hides his nuts :lol: The one thing I wonder how in the hell he managed to suck enough cock to get the opening spot for Finntroll in September :roll:
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Velvet_Darkness
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:48 am 
 

The vocalist for 3 inches of Blood. The worst thing about it is I actually like the music but his vocalist just totally made me not like them. Now if they ever made instrumental tracks I might give them a listen but the vocals alone were a deal breaker for me. V_V

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Nyaricus
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:52 am 
 

Velvet_Darkness wrote:
The vocalist for 3 inches of Blood. The worst thing about it is I actually like the music but his vocalist just totally made me not like them. Now if they ever made instrumental tracks I might give them a listen but the vocals alone were a deal breaker for me. V_V

Which one?
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Velvet_Darkness
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:57 am 
 

Nyaricus wrote:
Velvet_Darkness wrote:
The vocalist for 3 inches of Blood. The worst thing about it is I actually like the music but his vocalist just totally made me not like them. Now if they ever made instrumental tracks I might give them a listen but the vocals alone were a deal breaker for me. V_V

Which one?

They've had more then one vocalist? I didn't know if that's the case. The songs I listened to were from their "Fire Up The Blades" album. I don't know if they had a different one before but I really didn't like the vocalist.

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Nyaricus
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:11 am 
 

Velvet_Darkness wrote:
Nyaricus wrote:
Velvet_Darkness wrote:
The vocalist for 3 inches of Blood. The worst thing about it is I actually like the music but his vocalist just totally made me not like them. Now if they ever made instrumental tracks I might give them a listen but the vocals alone were a deal breaker for me. V_V

Which one?

They've had more then one vocalist? I didn't know if that's the case. The songs I listened to were from their "Fire Up The Blades" album. I don't know if they had a different one before but I really didn't like the vocalist.

Heh, and I LOVE that album. And yeah, two vocalists - the screamer kinda gets buried in the mix though, but the clean, falsetto vocalist (the guy on main mic duties) is kinda hard to get, but once you do, DAMN does it hit home.

FWIW, I hated the vocals as well first time I heard them. Now, they are one of my fav PM bands, heh.

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Splatterthrash
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:15 am 
 

Iron Maiden vocals.

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Nyaricus
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:18 am 
 

Splatterthrash wrote:
Iron Maiden vocals.

Which one?

EDIT: this question doesn't get old :P
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Splatterthrash
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:26 am 
 

Nyaricus wrote:
Splatterthrash wrote:
Iron Maiden vocals.

Which one?

EDIT: this question doesn't get old :P


all.

strangely enough, i love old era preist.

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hakarl
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:19 am 
 

Aaskereia - the vocalist is skillful and talented, but he insists on making those "tortured" howls that sound horrible. They ruin the music completely.

Summoning - some of the harsh vocals are beyond horrible, especially on Minas Morgul. The song Dragons Of Time (Lugburz) has awful vocals, but the song is otherwise near to a masterpiece.

Paradise Lost (earlier) - Nick Holmes used to sing off-key almost all the time. It made me cringe, and I don't listen Icon anymore because of the vocals only.

Some Moonsorrow songs have awful vocals, but the vocals on V: Hävitetty are breathtaking.

I didn't like the vocals on Primordial's To The Nameless Dead at first, but now I don't mind them.

Most hardcore singers make me cringe. Cult Of Luna should use growls instead, the harsh vocals mostly suck.
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Bezerko
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:24 am 
 

Ilwhyan wrote:
Summoning - some of the harsh vocals are beyond horrible, especially on Minas Morgul. The song Dragons Of Time (Lugburz) has awful vocals, but the song is otherwise near to a masterpiece.


Really? I thought the vocals on Lugburz and Minas Morgul were great.

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hakarl
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:30 am 
 

Bezerko wrote:
Ilwhyan wrote:
Summoning - some of the harsh vocals are beyond horrible, especially on Minas Morgul. The song Dragons Of Time (Lugburz) has awful vocals, but the song is otherwise near to a masterpiece.


Really? I thought the vocals on Lugburz and Minas Morgul were great.
I like most of the vocals, yes, they are truly exceptional, but the attemps at tormented howls on Dragons of Time are terrible (they are much like Aaskereia's vocals, in fact), as well as the weird gurgles with way too much reverb on Minas Morgul (see the song Dagor Bragollach).
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ikuturiso
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:35 am 
 

Ilwhyan wrote:
Summoning - some of the harsh vocals are beyond horrible, especially on Minas Morgul. The song Dragons Of Time (Lugburz) has awful vocals, but the song is otherwise near to a masterpiece.


Agreed on this one, most of the time they sound like they lack any power what so ever. I don't find them unbearable though.

Ilwhyan wrote:
Some Moonsorrow songs have awful vocals, but the vocals on V: Hävitetty are breathtaking.


Which ones in particular do you think are awful?

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lord_ghengis
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:37 am 
 

Ilwhyan wrote:
I didn't like the vocals on Primordial's To The Nameless Dead at first, but now I don't mind them.


Really? The vocals on that album are up there as some of my favourites ever. The end of No Nation on this Earth is probably my favorite piece of vocal work right now.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:48 am 
 

Ilwhyan wrote:
Bezerko wrote:
Ilwhyan wrote:
Summoning - some of the harsh vocals are beyond horrible, especially on Minas Morgul. The song Dragons Of Time (Lugburz) has awful vocals, but the song is otherwise near to a masterpiece.


Really? I thought the vocals on Lugburz and Minas Morgul were great.
I like most of the vocals, yes, they are truly exceptional, but the attemps at tormented howls on Dragons of Time are terrible (they are much like Aaskereia's vocals, in fact), as well as the weird gurgles with way too much reverb on Minas Morgul (see the song Dagor Bragollach).


Oh, so it's only a few parts. :)

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hakarl
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:48 am 
 

ikuturiso wrote:
Which ones in particular do you think are awful?
Awful was probably an exaggeration, but when he tries to sound pained or anguished, he only manages to sound pretty bad most of the time.

Bezerko wrote:
Oh, so it's only a few parts. :)
Yeah, sorry, I could've emphasized that a little more.
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I didn't like the vocals on Primordial's To The Nameless Dead at first, but now I don't mind them.


Really? The vocals on that album are up there as some of my favourites ever. The end of No Nation on this Earth is probably my favorite piece of vocal work right now.
The vocalist is great, no doubt. The style just doesn't appeal to me. Or maybe I was just expecting black metal screams (it was the first Primordial album I got).
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:05 am 
 

Mustaine-i know is he was out on a mission to be better than Shitallica but he trys to hard to be a vocalist. sorry Dave but ya can't sing for shit

Chuck Billy-ever since Demonic his fucking pseudo-death metal vocals have contiued to grind down my nerves and now his vocals in general suck

Rob Dukes-i'll admit he has his moments but to do vocals on BbB...:nono:

Peter Dolving-back when i was into The Haunted i couldn't stand his vocals then and i still don't

Derrick Green-well really Sep as a whole suck ass nowadays

Phil Anselmo-self-explanitory he really does sound awful

and EVERY SINGLE FUCKING SHITTY DEATHCORE BAND. THIS EMO/WIGGER/FAG GENRE MUST DIE

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ikuturiso
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:15 am 
 

Ilwhyan wrote:
ikuturiso wrote:
Which ones in particular do you think are awful?
Awful was probably an exaggeration, but when he tries to sound pained or anguished, he only manages to sound pretty bad most of the time.


I'll have to disagree, I think Ville's screams are some of the best out there, especially on Verisäkeet! In fact some of the highlights on the album in particular I think are the parts where he just screams his lungs out.

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lord_ghengis
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:56 am 
 

Ilwhyan wrote:
Or maybe I was just expecting black metal screams (it was the first Primordial album I got).


Yeah, the whole first album (Which I can't recommend all that much) is black metal vocals, but really by the third album the black metal vocals were basically omitted from the band. They show up in one or two songs and album, but for the main part they're gone.
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[quote="Ilwhyan"


I didn't like the vocals on Primordial's To The Nameless Dead at first, but now I don't mind them.

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A.A. Nemtheanga sings with more passion than anyone else in metal. His execution may not be for everybody, but I don't think anyone can deny the emotion.

I hate Glen Benton. Deicide is unlistenable because of him. Also Anders Frieden and "Speed" Strid.

Can't believe people have mentioned Warrel Dane. He's one of the finest clean male singers around.
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What exactly is fine about him?

I don't think he's cringe-worthy, but he isn't good.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:22 am 
 

Both Shagrath and the vocalist of Dragonlord are both awful "black metal" vocalists. I also cant stand the hardcore vocals used in metalcore and deathcore.
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Timo Kotipelto, I stopped listening to Stratovarius mainly because of his goddamn whiny voice and stupid accent.

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The vocals of this thrash band didn't really make me cringe but rather made me burst out laughing. :lol:
http://www.myspace.com/cyanideathrash666

And the screeching of this vocalist makes me cringe a lot.
http://www.myspace.com/agrezor
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:28 am 
 

Dorian from cathedral, i love the music of cathedral but his vocals are appauling, he was terrible in napalm death too...oddly hes fantastic in 'teeth of lions rule the divine' though.

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Tony Kakko from Sonata Arctica

Paul Baloff (RIP) from Exodus

Anders Frid from In Flames
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:22 pm 
 

Silencer's vocalist is an abomination.


Certain parts of Cradle of Filth's musical plethora is not enjoyable because Dani's voice just kills the entire mood.


I really can't stand Varg's vocals on most Burzum tracks. Ending a scream in a whine is just something that should never be done.

"Key to the gaaaaattteeeeewhiiiinneee"

Ugh.

I can't think of any other bands with vocals I hate at the moment, but I'm sure there are plenty.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:08 pm 
 

Empyreal wrote:
What exactly is fine about him?

I don't think he's cringe-worthy, but he isn't good.


Really? I can't believe so many people think that. Nevermore is one of only a handful of bands that don't use harsh vocals that I listen to often, and Warrel is a big reason why. I can't describe exactly why though. His voice just has a lot of personality.

Also, I think all of Exodus' vocalists are rather cringe-worthy, especially the new guy, Rob Dukes.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:12 pm 
 

Glen Benton's monotonous vocal makes me want to shove a cross down his throat.

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Ozzy's vocals never work to much for me
And I hate Danny Filth's style


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Bezerko wrote:
Ilwhyan wrote:
Summoning - some of the harsh vocals are beyond horrible, especially on Minas Morgul. The song Dragons Of Time (Lugburz) has awful vocals, but the song is otherwise near to a masterpiece.


Really? I thought the vocals on Lugburz and Minas Morgul were great.


I usually like them, but some times the vocalist does this really annoying croaking sort of scream. It's grating to say the least.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:58 pm 
 

Jason Mendonça(Akercocke) Wtf is wrong with him.His growls and screams makes me puke.I can say only one more thing his growls are the worse I've ever heard

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