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Our host told us that they installed a MySQL optimization software on the server, which would improve the speed and overall performance. We'll see how well that really works, feel free to give feedback if you notice something significantly better in the next few days.
On an unrelated note, I've also added a feature for reporting bands: you now have to select the priority of the report, depending on how important the mistake is and how quickly it should be fixed. The reason for this is that we have a very long queue of reports to shovel through, and some mistakes which need urgent correcting are often among a list of trivial, nitpicky corrections, such as pointing out a band member also played in some other band.
We expect your cooperation with this, so thanks in advance. \m/
Added a new rule under "General", regarding additional notes. Nothing major, but it had to be said I guess.
And it's not an update, but I would like to particularly stress the rules #5 and #7 for submitting bands. I cannot help but notice that they are the most ignored ones, despite being the most important. I seem to reject twice as many bands as I approve some lately - is it because people are running out of real metal bands to submit?
Way too many bands labeled as "thrash", "death/thrash", "progressive thrash" and the likes actually happen to be all-out hardcore or worse, mallcore. Enough already!
And even more recurring is the problem of people submitting bands with ZERO proof of existence. Not only NO link is provided - which is very annoying to the moderator, because we have to do all the Google searching work ourselves - but when said Google search yields absolutely no results, you are quite simply pissing us off and wasting our time, not just yours. You might not care about wasting your time, but we do.
Please, to every newcomer, READ the rules. Stop submitting bands that formed in 2003. Stop submitting bands with no information on the Net (unless you're so eager to have it accepted that you're willing to rip the demo to mp3s and host it for us, or even ship us a demo, or something) or that only 3 people have heard of. Stop submitting bands that might have a mention of playing a gig somewhere on the Net, but that has no mention of recording and releasing any material. Stop submitting bands which ARE recording a demo, but have not released it yet - WAIT until they do!
Another frustrating thing for moderators: avoid if at all possible, submitting bands who have a homepage with little to no content. If we have our doubts about the band's validity, we will want to hear it - the band's homepage then MUST have working sound samples (nothing is more frustrating than finally finding something only to get an error 404 page in Dutch!). MP3.com is dead for good, IUMA's server performance appears to suck even more than ours, so forget about those.
I write this because I know everyone keeps wondering why the approval process is slow and frustrating. These are some of the reasons why. We hope you understand, and ignore these warnings at your own risk.
Let it be known that I can change my mind, and that I can admit to being wrong. Hopefully this will also stop the incessant begging, whining, death threats and so on that I keep receiving (okay, maybe not the last one...hehe).
So after someone helpfully provided me with thirty songs or so to help me make up my mind, I have decided to allow...
The Scorpions! in the Encyclopaedia. Being more or less familiar with the band before, I always considered them a little too borderline, but hearing more songs made me change my mind about them. Moreover, it will make many people happy, I'm certain of it! But keep in mind that it's not the number of people for or against it that changed my mind - it's just a predictable side-effect. A thousand Korn fans would never convince me, after all. No, it is because now I actually feel they belong here. I've always been a little ambivalent about them, after all. (Note that there are two more bands which I am still undecided, and which may yet make it - wait and see...)
I'll probably accept the first submission I see, so please don't all rush to add it, if you see it in the queue already forget about it.
And don't thank me - thank Speedking (from the metal-rules.com board) for providing the songs on his FTP.
We are right in the middle of moving, so we will probably be offline for the whole week-end. For the next week we still have Internet access at work, but obviously we won't be able to do much for the next few days, so I thought of giving you the heads-up about that. Not that it'll change much, but oh well, see you all soon.
So yes, you can finally submit bands again (I can already hear the cheers in the distance!).
There is just a new thing to take into consideration now: you can never have more than 5 bands waiting in the queue at once. Meaning, if you submit 5 bands now, and one gets approved, you can submit one more, but never more than that.
This is to prevent the all-too common flooding of band submissions experienced by all the moderating staff in the past. This is not a temporary measure, in fact, it's here to stay, so those mass-submitters (you know who you are) are going to have to live with it.
We apologize to the rest of you who just wanted to submit a band or two, but couldn't, for the past few months. This wasn't really your fault, but the drastic measure was all we had left. You can go right ahead now.
Okay, enough with the upcoming albums. When an album gets announced, some of you are eager to add it. Fair enough, if all the information is released and is confirmed by several sources, including the official band website.
I have deleted albums with incomplete or erroneous tracklisting several times, and we often get reports of errors in upcoming albums because people added them before the information was 100% official. So, STOP doing that, people.
The rules have been updated to reflect this new policy. Break it at your own risk.
In the previous message, it said that generic updates did not give points anymore, thanks to point whores abusing the system. Since this was a truly unpopular decision that stirred debate on the forum, we decided to bring it back. A good point was made that it was unfair for those who truly made an effort to upload better images or add lyrics, for example.
So, it's back. However, I urge every participating member to read the updated guidelines about the point whores. From now on, "Point whoring" is breaking an official rule and we'll have no tolerance for it.
You can now check a preview of all the submitted info for the bands on the pending list, so you can see if it's a band you know or not, the links that have already been submitted, and such. We welcome any report that can help with the approval process, with a great preference of course for links to mp3s, but any helpful info or opinion you can provide is appreciated.
A lot of the bands currently on the pending list have barely any info at all, and it's often quite hard to even find references to them on the net. If you know anything about those, please submit it soon otherwise we'll have to reject them due to lack of info.
As some of you might have noticed, we have recently stopped giving points for minor updates, due to too many point whores making a shitload of insignificant updates just to rack up a big score. You still get points for submitting new bands, albums and reviews of course, but not for updating info.
Remember last year when I said such a number was "mind-boggling"?
I guess I shouldn't be surprised we reached the 10,000 bands milestone so soon, barely over a year after the site's launch. Safe to say, no other metal website can boast to have such a large database.
And this was only possible because of an enormous group effort. Thanks everyone! \m/
Sorry about the recent downtimes, there were problems with our host's server getting hacked. Hopefully the situation is resolved now.
There are now over 700 bands in the queue. Some of the users keep submitting band after band... Can you PLEASE stop for a little while, so that the staff can process your submissions? It won't hurt to wait, and it will make the queue load faster and save bandwidth.
There is no need to pillage other sites to flood us with your submissions. Most of you who do that already have a very high score, so I'm guessing it's for the completeness that you keep on submitting. Which is nice, but this is getting a little out of hand - we have our hands full already. The new feature of letting others view the queue and flag bands helps, but not by much.
So - for those members who already have hundreds of submissions waiting already (you know who you are) - why don't you take a little break? You submit faster than we can approve. If this goes on, I will be forced to temporarily disable band submissions. I don't want to do this, but 700+ is a little extreme already...
We realize that the approval process has been pretty slow lately. This can be in part blamed to the slow server of the past week, but also due to the fact that the submission list is really, really huge (nearly 600 band submissions waiting as I speak - no kidding!).
So we have been thinking of some solutions for this problem. You can now view the list of pending bands, so if you want to submit a band, please make sure it's not on that list already! And more importantly, if you happen to be familiar with some bands on the list and you want to comment on them (e.g. "Don't accept that, it's some goth rock band like Sister of Mercy!", "I have their debut demo, it's Megadeth-style thrash, you can accept it", etc.), then please go right ahead and send us your reports.
However, please don't report bands that YOU submitted yourself (we'll know :P), unless you want to correct a mistake you think you might have made.
Note that reports from anonymous visitors will not be trusted as easily as those from Veteran users, especially if the information is vague and/or if no source is provided.
Remember, this is to help the moderators, but also yourself and other members, as we are aware some of you get impatient to see your submissions processed. And now, there is NO excuse for you to ask us "did you approve my band yet? I submitted it two weeks ago!" - you can see for yourself.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Today celebrates the one-year anniversary of the Encyclopaedia Metallum. One of our veteran contributors, VileRancour, suggested to have a new logo to mark this event, and offered to draw one for us... We thought it a nice idea, so here it is! We really like it (not that the old one was bad... thanks Redmage! For those newbies who want to see what it was, you can always take a look here), and we hope you do, too.
Even after one year, the band submissions keep coming and coming... It seems there will never be an end to it! How long 'til the 10,000 bands mark, you think? To think that not so long ago, just having 2000 bands was impressive to us...
We've had to deal with all sorts of people ever since we started, both bad and good. So a nice fuck off to all the asshole trolls who tried to mess with us, and a huge thank you for everyone else who contributed in ways big or small. You have made this possible. \m/
Esoteric recently resigned as Metal Lord for personal reasons. We'll miss ya man, you certainly knew what to do and how to deal with controversial issues! \m/ He has decided to stay as forum moderator and administrator, at least, and his input is always valued.
So as a replacement, please welcome our new Metal Lord chaossphere - reasonable, knowledgeable, yet with little tolerance for bullshit, he seemed an ideal choice to us. Incidently, Esoteric approves of our decision for his replacement. Welcome aboard!
Mirmecofagídeo Misantropo (aka MMisantropo here) has been promoted to Metal Lord. :) Welcome aboard.
Oh and (this has been enabled for a while, just never bothered to post about it) you can now use an "advanced" cross-reference search engine (see the link next to the Search button in the left menu) - for example, you can search for all the power metal bands from Norway, or all the black metal bands from Germany, and so on (reversal of stereotype intentional).
I modified the login system a bit to improve security and correct a bug for the mods. You shouldn't notice any difference other than being logged out if you usually have a cookie to keep you logged in. Please report any unusual behavior to me ASAP.
You can now use the keyword search in the left menu to search for a user's profile page. Type the user's nickname and hit enter. It's a direct match (which means only two possible results, either it finds it or not), type the username, and it pops the profile automatically if this user exists.
HellBlazer and myself have been interviewed by Cheryl for her webzine, The Metal Gospel. We sincerely thank her for this honour, and I honestly don't think we deserved this (we're just webmasters, nothing special ;)), but still I encourage everyone to read it, if only to know a bit more about us or the site's origin. The link to the interview is here.
Thanks again Cheryl!
Never thought it'd actually be necessary to actually write that down. ~sigh~ Luckily, only a very small few have been guilty of it, but still...
Only registered members can post or reply to topics in the forums now. Guest posts aren't allowed anymore. This is because we've had too many jerks who abused the anonymity to either pretend they're someone else, post under fake/multiple usernames or to simply cowardly insult others and thinking they could get away with it. Newsflash kids, moderators can see the IP provenance of any message.
Sorry for those guest users who didn't do any trouble - this isn't directed at you in any way, and it sucks that a few idiots ruin everything. You can still register for the board, even if you won't contribute to the site - it's your choice.
On a positive note, there won't be anymore "guest" posts by the people who simply forgot to login... ;)
Thanks for your comprehension.
Currently writing a list of frequently asked questions we get, by email or via the forum... The link is right between the Help file and the Guidelines page.
I'm adding them as we speak, and will probably add more later, so please check back once in a while (I always put a timestamp of the last update anyway) for changes.
And like the FAQ says, please check it out before asking us anything. If you don't and we know your question is answered in the FAQ, chances are we'll just point you to the link, or ignore you.
At this moment, there are 1000 active members on the site! Incredible.
Of course, not all of them have contributed something, but the fact that they took the time to register shows their interest in the website so there's at least that!
Once again, thank you all. You have made this rather ambitious project possible. \m/
Broke the 3000 reviews mark! Wow. Of course, over 10% of those come from the same guy... you know who you are
Thanks again to everyone for their contribution, and keep 'em coming!
Both myself and HellBlazer work full time now, so don't be surprised if the approval process has slowed down considerably lately; we just don't have much free time. Sorry about that, but there's not much we can do unfortunately. Don't worry, your submissions aren't ignored or lost, it's just going to take longer from now on. :)
One of the Metal lords, Spooky Apparition, has the following items available for trades (any offer considered) or sale:
Bolt Thrower - Honor Valour Pride
Iced Earth - Burnt Offerings
Karma to Burn - Karma to Burn
The Obsessed - Church Within
Sigh - Hail Horror Hail
Sigh - Imaginary Sonicscapes
Tiamat - Skeleton Skeletron
The Kovenant - Animatronic
You can contact him at email@example.com.
After much debating, the moderating staff has decided to delete the following bands on the grounds that they were added by mistake and simply do not belong here (not metal). In case anyone is wondering, they are:
Dillinger Escape Plan
From Autumn To Ashes
We sincerely apologize to our members who took the time to enter all the information and albums for these bands. Mistakes happen, and I know some of you won't be happy (though I can already hear others dancing... can't please everyone!) with this, but if it's any consolation, you still have the points you got from entering all that... :)
It's very possible that there are still some bands in the database that do not belong, even according to the guidelines. If you know of any (particularly mislabelled hardcore/"metalcore" or grindcore bands), you can report them to us and we'll investigate.
The help file and the guidelines have been updated. I invite every contributor to take a look at the updated guidelines, so that there are no more bad surprises and misunderstandings.
Thank you all for your contributions and your understanding, and apologies (particularly to those who entered the UFO singles... hehe) again for the mess. This sort of thing was inevitable, it seems, but we'll do our best to avoid further problems.
Now the keyword search by band name will only search in the band name and alternate spelling fields - not the additional notes. I figured it wasn't that useful to see the other band pages where band X got mentioned anyway (did anyone actually use this?)
If you think this is a bad idea and/or want to go back to the other search engine, you can post your comments on the forum. Suggestions are welcome as always.
Members now have three optional fields they can fill when submitting or updating band information:
Please welcome Stormrider as a new metal lord. Seeing as he contributed over 1100 new bands to the archives, countless albums, and he's incredibly knowledgeable, he obviously is an asset to the Encyclopaedia.
Hail the Stormrider! \m/