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AurvandiL · Metalhead Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 1371

caspian · Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:43 am Post subject:

Seems like it's splits with incorrect track listing- tracks by one of the bands listed in the additional notes instead of the track listing, etc.
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oneyoudontknow · Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:57 am Post subject:

What to do:
1. if not all tracks are available at the entry, then try to find them (google, label, contact etc.)
2. If the tracks are added to the profile, but are added wrongly, then make sure that the new entry will contain the right information; just because the counting of the tracks starts witn a 1 does not necessarily mean that their order is also this way; again... some research is necessary.
3. In case of a wrongly added split, it needs to be changed to a split album.
If more than one MA band appears on the release, then you can use this kind of coding in the additional notes to make it look good:

Tracks 1-8: <a href='band.php?id=3540257258'>Long Suffering</a>
Tracks 9-28: <a href='band.php?id=3540257246'>Rehumanize</a>
Tracks 29-42: Corpse Under Construction
Tracks 43-53: <a href='band.php?id=49085'>Eternal Mystery</a>

I will update the list this evening... please let me know if there are fixed ones so that the list will get shorter. Thanks again for any help.
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oneyoudontknow · Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject:

From the search on the 'grind' band's sites I can say that some profiles are quite messed up and have a good deal of wrongly added releases. There was also one that had no tracklist left at all ... and also the cover was gone.

Has some started to fix some of the releases, yet?
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Goatfangs · Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:42 pm Post subject:

I'm under 300 points away from Veteran status, I'm sure there might be a couple of these awry splits laying around for me to fix up by the time I get to 500.

Although missing covers don't need Veteran status to fix... I'll see what I can do.
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oneyoudontknow · Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:59 pm Post subject:

Cool... please report which band you have updated and I will remove them from the list.

If you are not sure how to fix something, then ask...
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Nightgaunt · I'll Swallow Your Soul Joined: 06 Mar 2004 Posts: 6963

As the splits are fixed, if posters would kindly give the name of the band/release that they have properly re-added, this would allow mods to come along and delete the bad entries.
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Evenfiel · Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject:

oneyoudontknow · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:52 am Post subject:

I talked with Nightgaunt on the matter and the I will quote his remark to my question on the issue on how to fix the releases:

Catachthonian · Veteran Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 3465 Location: Russia

I have a question: let's take, for example, this release - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=132674

If I got it right, in order to fix it I should: Add new release -> Split album -> List all tracks (by all participating bands) -> Specify which tracks are performed by which band in additional notes, like "Tracks 1-4 by band X, tracks 4-8 by band Y". Right?

oneyoudontknow · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:02 am Post subject:

All bands in the MA-> SPLIT
NOT all bands in the MA -> SPLIT ALBUM

Please, before you start fixing the release, try to find the correct order of the tracks.
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Catachthonian · Veteran Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 3465 Location: Russia

OK. Then I'll try my hand on a few of them and, if everything is OK, will do the majority of work tomorrow.

Catachthonian · Veteran Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 3465 Location: Russia

Here's the old one: http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=132674

And here's the new one: http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206178

If everything's done right, then the old one should be deleted. Both from the list and the database.

oneyoudontknow · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:39 am Post subject:

Catachthonian · Veteran Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 3465 Location: Russia

oneyoudontknow · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:22 pm Post subject:

^ fixed the error.

I always add the term FIXED or CORRECT to the title. Makes it easier to distinguish them from the messed up ones.
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Catachthonian · Veteran Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 3465 Location: Russia

Fixed Detrimental/Disencumberance split demo:
Old entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=106727
New entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206215

EDIT: ah, OK, I'll start adding that in the future.

Evenfiel · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject:

Good job, Catachthonian! I've deleted the old entries.

oneyoudontknow: Why don't you edit your first post, condensing all the information you've posted in your subsequent posts?

oneyoudontknow · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject:

sofeshue · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject:

Also an advice. If a split album does not have an explicit title, please name it this way: 'Band X / Band Y / Band Z'. If 4 or 5 bands participate a split, thus making the format too long, then simply put it '4-way split'. Don't use this format: 'Split with band X' or 'Split w/ band X'. The later case often happans when one of the participating bands is not in MA. A bad example is found here:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=69820
Making the title 'Agathocles / Krush' looks better.
Please consider integrating it into common rules for editing split albums.

Catachthonian · Veteran Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 3465 Location: Russia

Lord_Sauron · Metalhead Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 587 Location: Croatia

Abortion - Abortion / Agathocles / Din-Addict / Malignant Tumour

New Entry
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206311

Old Entry
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=88753

Catachthonian · Veteran Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 3465 Location: Russia

Unholy Grave - Grind The Faces Of Rockstars:
Old entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=61508
New entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206300

Unholy Grave / Taste of Fear:
Old entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=104268
New entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206302

Unholy Grave - split with Chickenshit:
Old entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=133965
new entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206304

Unholy Grave - split with Ingravescent Torture:
Old entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=135753
New entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206305

Unholy Grave / Krush - Consumed / Silencer Surgery:
Old entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=133945
New entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206306

Unholy Grave / Warsore - This Must Stop / Terrorismo Musical:
Old entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=133962
New entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206307

Unholy Grave / Trauma Acustico - Blood / Goodbye To Innocence:
Old entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=133969
New entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206309

Unholy Grave - split with Mass Separation:
Old entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=175009 (the cover is from a different release, by the way)
New entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206310

Unholy Grave / Captain 3 Leg - Gorilla "Adolf" / Modern Day Piracy:
Old entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=60183
New entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206313

Unholy Grave - split with Pichismo
Old entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=175016
New entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206317 (the cover was suspicious, so I left it off)

Agathocles / Dios Hastio - Frost Bitten Death / Nolme (cover fixed):
Old entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=82102
New entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206322

That's it for now. Maybe I'll do a few more today; not sure about it.

P.S. This thread should be retitled to "Re-Entry And Destruction".

Catachthonian · Veteran Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 3465 Location: Russia

oneyoudontknow · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:04 am Post subject:

please write reports on the releases that have been re-added and fixed.

Please make clear on the band's site which albums have been fixed; terms fixed/correct. Makes ti easier to differentiate them from the wrongly added ones.

When the old ones have been deleted by the mods, then I will take them from the list.

Two releases added to the list. They need to be re-added.
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Evenfiel · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:14 am Post subject:

Done.

Derigin · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:23 am Post subject:

NorseDave · Mallcore Kid Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 23 Location: Italy

Hi, I can't help fixing because i don't have enough score, I just can send report. Anyway, the guidelines are good, but I continue to think that it would be a very useful information to add which music genre play the band that it's not in the archive. This may be useful, exspecially for the Grindcore splits, in two ways:

1. you can figure out which genre play the other band and why they aren't in the archive;
2. secondly, if the band that isn't in the archive is labeled as Grindcore, you can check if they are Metal enough to be added.

Take for example the Agathocles page. They have an inredible amount of splits, here you guess why the other band isn't in the archive http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206204 , here you don't any idea about what the other band play: http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=67447

Maybe this can be implemented in Version 2.0

oneyoudontknow · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:39 am Post subject:

Here is a tricky one:

Demisor/ CSSO split

Originally released as a split EP; 7".
later re-released as a split tape with bonus tracks.
(not difficult so far...)

these are the entries at the MA
(and now it is getting tricky):
split:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=69995
split album:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=47559

Background infos on CSSO:
http://csso666.hp.infoseek.co.jp/ep.html
http://csso666.hp.infoseek.co.jp/complete.tape.split.html

Fixed this way:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206335

Right this way?
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Evenfiel · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:55 am Post subject:

Derigin · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:11 pm Post subject:

Aye, my first contribution to this.

Brainchoke - split with Fetus Eaters:
Old entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=67127
New entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206340

oneyoudontknow · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:15 pm Post subject:

Evenfiel · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:24 pm Post subject:

I've just deleted the album in the Agathocles reports. It's better to report those albums here, because there are hundreds of reports right now, so it's likely that your reports will stay buried there for a while.

Deleted:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=202962
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=123437

Derigin · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject:

Another quick one before heading to work.

Disgust (JPN) - split with Hemdale
Old entry #1 - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=63775
Old entry #2 - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=63782
New entry - http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206343

Evenfiel · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject:

Done.

oneyoudontknow: I've cleaned all your reports.

oneyoudontknow · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:48 pm Post subject:

Evenfiel · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:11 pm Post subject:

oneyoudontknow · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject:

delete please:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=44766
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=158268
fixed as:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206362

delete:
split:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=69995
split album:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=47559
Fixed this way:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206335
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sofeshue · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:35 pm Post subject:

Old entry to be deleted:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=22044
New entry:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206402

Old entry:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=67745
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=25364
New entry:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206404

Old entry: Agathocles / Black Army Jacket
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=30329
New entry:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206406