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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:43 pm 
 

oneyoudontknow wrote:
I have added this to the notes of the album or is this not acceptable and should it therefore be renamed to 'Untitled'?

Actually, that information is irrelevant. Every "untitled" album is considered to have the band's name.

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:24 am 
 

Evenfiel wrote:
oneyoudontknow wrote:
I have added this to the notes of the album or is this not acceptable and should it therefore be renamed to 'Untitled'?

Actually, that information is irrelevant. Every "untitled" album is considered to have the band's name.

OK... I did not know that. I delete the additional information then. Thank you!
EDIT: Ah, I see that you have removed it...
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ralfman
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:54 pm 
 

Hi, and this goes to the mods that are accepting or not new bands and in particular to CK:

You´ve been denying me bands that have all the conditions to be accepted, with one comon issue , the name change; now, what are u triyng to do? piss me off? deleting precious info that i don´t know how to recover?or what? isn´t this suppose to be the most complete site about Heavy music on the net?
This band: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=25236 , had a previous name with a demo out , rejected "no need for a double entry , bla ,bla ,bla" , now thanks to u i lost the godamn name of that demo and the link that showed a detailed biography of the band in question.

Another (the same of above goes for this one):
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=21929
; ..."insuficient data on the line up or something like that..." u said ...

I´m not browsing all damn bands on the archive for name changes!!?!I just step on them.If i ask if the band can be accepted because it had a previous different name , i´m answered

Nightgaunt wrote:
If it's not on the blacklist, stop asking here and give it a shot. If you really fuck up, it might be a good learning experience for you.


if i don´t ask the info is deleted and gone....
:lol:

(whatthefuckingodsnameandtheholymaryandtheholyspiritihopetheyburninhellificareisgoingonandidontcarebutitpissesmeoff!)

Now CK these ARE exemples of "useless double entries":
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=20846
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=99766
Changed an S for a Z... :shock: :lol:

If this is so then this http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=9591
one should have anothe page sinse they added a E after the second demo.
This one http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=73961 added an S after the 1st demo.

And so on and on...
In fact i do agree that these last ones shouldn´t have another page just for a change in letter on their name .A good exemple is Devin Townsend and Devin Townsend Band , completly in favor for a single page as it is now.

Why haven´t u deleted this one http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=100943 as well?or this one http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=98957 ?

As far as i can tell by your judgement tons of bands would be deleted , right?

If i would just submit the bands without saying that they changed name they most definetly would be accepted , but sinse i try my best and give all the info avaiable, i get kicked and told to "... give it up" :lol:

As far as i know all the bands with the unknown status can have "useless double entriess" as u say.

This is nothing personal (but i´m starting to think it is) but "coherence" is what i think u need.

Just take it easy and peace
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christkiller
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:00 pm 
 

ralfman stop whining, I have been patient enough with you and your incomplete submissions

As for the example Black Horizons, Black HorizonZ, the double entry was made by a band member so EVERYTHING is 100 % correct & complete.. which is not always your case

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ralfman
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:11 pm 
 

christkiller wrote:
ralfman stop whining, I have been patient enough with you and your incomplete submissions

As for the example Black Horizons, Black HorizonZ, the double entry was made by a band member so EVERYTHING is 100 % correct & complete.. which is not always your case


Hey , go ahead do whatever u want to do with me . how can u ask me for data if there´s any avaiable?

like i´ve said before COHERENCE is needed, and don´t bother ,i´ll not argue with u no more.

but i would i ask u one thing, how about leaving my submitions to another person?

i don´t care if my submitions been blocked , i´ll just use my other acount and throw in 5 more , and so on.

take care

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stab
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:57 pm 
 

Hail Metalheads!

I would like to interest on your opinion if the music project called Meander might join the database?

http://www.meanders.eu ->music ->A Song for the Sun EP

It's self called Atmospheric Dark Light Metal, but to what genre would YOU place it?

I am interested in experimental combining metal with other styles of music, that are attractive to me, so the previous EP, A Tune for the Moon contains not metal compositions. Does it mean rejecting a submission?

My name (Stab Venom) is already mentioned on the list with the Inner Sea band (as the founder and leader), so in some way Meander is a logical extention of those ideas. Does it count?

Thank You in advance for taking time to read these lines, to listen to Meander, to judge and for posting your tipps and suggestions!

UPD 05Aug2007:
Meander has been submitted, and defined as Gothic Metal.
Thanks anyway for clicking link, whoever you were:)

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:55 am 
 

This band:

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=7288

Can someone look at the genre? It is merely described as 'avant-garde'. According to a review
http://www.divinaenema.com/theysay.shtml
Quote:
Musically, "At the Conclave" shows a highly impressive example of how a Doom/Black Metal album should be conceived and performed.


Knows anyone more about this band?
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Caliginosity
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:31 pm 
 

Ok i have a good question. Here i have a Moonblood/Azhubam Haani split TAPE. Now i have no idea if its official or not. I don't see it listed anywhere, and i don't know the label. Its limited to 70 copies. I have a tracklist for it too. I'm just hesitant about adding it. Any thoughts?

Scan: http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... oodoh8.jpg

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:35 am 
 

Caliginosity wrote:
Ok i have a good question. Here i have a Moonblood/Azhubam Haani split TAPE. Now i have no idea if its official or not. I don't see it listed anywhere, and i don't know the label. Its limited to 70 copies. I have a tracklist for it too. I'm just hesitant about adding it. Any thoughts?

Scan: http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... oodoh8.jpg

:scratch:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=6253
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Bootlegs:
-Split cassette with Moonblood.
-'On A Snowy Winter Night' 10"
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christkiller
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:53 am 
 

Caliginosity wrote:
Ok i have a good question. Here i have a Moonblood/Azhubam Haani split TAPE. Now i have no idea if its official or not. I don't see it listed anywhere, and i don't know the label. Its limited to 70 copies. I have a tracklist for it too. I'm just hesitant about adding it. Any thoughts?

Scan: http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... oodoh8.jpg


sure add it :) (then we can durst you) :D lol

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Caliginosity
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:14 am 
 

ahh good catch oneyoudon'tknow, did not see that, i had a feeling it was a bootleg

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christkiller
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:19 am 
 

Anyway I think the Moonblood page is (nearly) complete for the discography... so most of the releases not mentionned are surely bootlegs

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Caliginosity
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:21 am 
 

Yea thats what gave me doubt, thats why i asked if anyone knew about it :D

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:25 am 
 

about this band:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=102171
Quote:
Releases: Live Demo '07.07.07 (Demo, 2007, Self-Released)

I contacted them and got the response that their release can be downloaded and they gave me a link. The files are numbered and in an additional text file the lyrics have been added; with the some song order. So could I add the release according to this data?
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Caliginosity
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:30 am 
 

I'd say certainly, its more info than there already is, and if there is more that is discovered, it can be fixed.

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MMisantropo
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:58 am 
 

if that's their only release so far, there should be a physical version, right?

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:14 am 
 

MMisantropo wrote:
if that's their only release so far, there should be a physical version, right?

I have no idea.. really. I asked for the demo and this was the e-mail I received from them:
Quote:
Hails

It is possible to download the demo from here
http://ifolder.ru/2889247

I have listened to the music and it is a live recording from a club. I do not speak Russian, so I cannot figure out if there is one release existing or not. The user who submitted the band might know more because he IS from the Ukraine; where this band is from, too.
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Caliginosity
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:52 am 
 

MMisantropo wrote:
if that's their only release so far, there should be a physical version, right?


I was wondering the same thing, even though he gave you a link to download it, is it actually a physical release?

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 12:15 pm 
 

Caliginosity wrote:
MMisantropo wrote:
if that's their only release so far, there should be a physical version, right?


I was wondering the same thing, even though he gave you a link to download it, is it actually a physical release?

I really do not know. I have used a translator and tried to figure out what is written on the two pages that are linked to. Most of it is background information on the band... what the name of the band means. On another site I found that the demo is a rough recording, so nothing new in particular. I'll send the band another e-mail and ask if the demo is available physically.

Edit: e-mail send, but it might take some days until I get a response.
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christkiller
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:50 am 
 

:| just saw another awesome report

can someone explain to me what is "Satanic Socialism"

:|?? just saw this for lyrical themes suggested for a band

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Reaper43
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:00 am 
 

Sounds like a nice way of saying NSBM, or giving it lyrical description.

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droneriot
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:03 am 
 

christkiller wrote:
"Satanic Socialism"

What??? :scratch:
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christkiller
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:05 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=28708

"in the lyrical themes, it should be Satanic Socialism"

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droneriot
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:08 am 
 

I guess the report just means that it should be in English rather than in Spanish.

EDIT: On a sidenote, kind of weird how the most bizarre nonsense is always related to bands submitted by Xerxes, isn't it? Maybe someone should take the time to go through all his submissions one day to check for nonsense. I bet there's a lot of crap to be found there.
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Princeps
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:10 am 
 

christkiller wrote:
:| just saw another awesome report

can someone explain to me what is "Satanic Socialism"

:|?? just saw this for lyrical themes suggested for a band



Kinda resembles a fantastic realm, where Satanism, Neo-Paganism and National Socialism energized a musical scene ( Black Metal ), in which fantasy was actualized in the burning of medieval churches in Norway or other places.

Hope that helps somewhat.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:54 am 
 

christkiller wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=28708

"in the lyrical themes, it should be Satanic Socialism"


I rember one old article on Norwegian BM scene, where was said, that the reason for Euronymous membership in Norwegian Communist Youth was his own view on socialism- which was redistribution of suffering and that everybody should suffer equally, not matter what their social status was. :lol:

It seems, that somebody was reading the same article...

But for the matter itself, i would ignore such reports, which do not offer further evidence, not only in this case. They are often folowed by angry reports by bandmembers and friends of bands calling us complete idiots for making changes like that. Users should learn to back up their claims with some real evidence finally.

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:23 am 
 

(1)
A question about the band 'Todesstoss'
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=14142

Why does it remain with this wrong spelling?
Correct would be: Todesstoß
Like it is on all (!) covers and look at the logo

the title of this release has also the wrong spelling:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=50562

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(2)
And the latest record has two errors:
Quote:
1. Gedlichtvortrag (Recitation) 02:07
2. Instrumentallied (Instrumental Song) 17:23

I searched for them in the net and found a Russian site which offered a download of them. They have the same wrong spelling.
Does anyone know more on this release?
I am not sure on the spelling of the second one... maybe it is supposed to be this way, but it sounds awful.
The first one is supposed to be 'Gedichtvortrag'. I correct this one and seveal other wrong spellings on their site.
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SitraAhra
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:58 am 
 

I just don't know what think about NEXT WASTE DIMENSION from Netherlands.It's kind of Industrial/Dance(?)/Metal.But majority of riffs and vocals sounds really heavy and Metal by no means.Can this band be here? Samples:

http://www.myspace.com/nextwastedimensioncom

P.S Personaly I hate this kind of Metal.
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MMisantropo
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:04 am 
 

Yes, it's metal for the most part.

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SitraAhra
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:41 am 
 

But in Metal-Archives I found this post:

Quote:
CarellicA
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PostPosted: 04 May 2007 06:40 Post subject: Next Waste Dimension Reply with quote
Next Waste Dimension is rated as a non Metal band. I think this is nonsence! Next Waste Dimension makes a mix of Death metal with dance influences. Is encyclopaedia metalium afraid of the word "dance"? My opinion is that this is one of the best and original metal band in the Netherlands. What is your opinion? www.nextwastedimension.com


Topic Locked.That means that this band were rejected once or something...
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:11 am 
 

SitraAhra wrote:
But in Metal-Archives I found this post:

Quote:
CarellicA
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Joined: 27 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: 04 May 2007 06:40 Post subject: Next Waste Dimension Reply with quote
Next Waste Dimension is rated as a non Metal band. I think this is nonsence! Next Waste Dimension makes a mix of Death metal with dance influences. Is encyclopaedia metalium afraid of the word "dance"? My opinion is that this is one of the best and original metal band in the Netherlands. What is your opinion? www.nextwastedimension.com


Topic Locked.That means that this band were rejected once or something...


Of course, they are on the rejected list with the comment "this music has AIDS".

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SitraAhra
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:14 am 
 

MMisantropo wrote:
Yes, it's metal for the most part.


But MMisantropo said these words.Anyway I easily can live without this one on M-A :).
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:21 am 
 

SitraAhra wrote:
MMisantropo wrote:
Yes, it's metal for the most part.


But MMisantropo said these words.Anyway I easily can live without this one on M-A :).


I am only answering your question, that is the reason why the people were asking about it.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:43 pm 
 

http://www.desolated.unas.cz/
http://bandzone.cz/desolated
Opinions on this band, especially from my mod colleagues??

The user has submitted it as

Trash/Black/Death/Metal/Core :lol:

It sounds too nu-metal to me, but on the first too albums there are songs that could be defined as groove metal, even some deathy parts show from time to time. Obviously they have wrong influences from the view of this page - Sepultura from their Roots period. The band has also an "interesting" history, which should not influence you so I will mention it perhaps a bit later. But it is one of the reasons why I want more opinions and as objective as possible.

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Nightgaunt
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:34 pm 
 

I think it should be rejected, as well. We've been way too soft with groove/_____ (insert non-metal genre here) recently, as it is.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:06 am 
 

Hi

Got this review of Terrorizer; http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1259 ... 002gb2.jpg
and Can´t find anything on the net about this band.

If i do submit this band what genre can i post ?

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SitraAhra
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:51 pm 
 

Well I found band DESOLATE(Germany). http://www.desolate666.de/cd.htm .Here's one MP3 from new CD.Can I ADD this band to Metal-Archives database? I Ask this because I've read some reviews and do not know how to identify style... As far as I know in early years they played something like hardcore with Thrash influences...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:00 pm 
 

SitraAhra wrote:
Well I found band DESOLATE(Germany). http://www.desolate666.de/cd.htm .Here's one MP3 from new CD.Can I ADD this band to Metal-Archives database? I Ask this because I've read some reviews and do not know how to identify style... As far as I know in early years they played something like hardcore with Thrash influences...


This sounds like a mix melodic death and thrash metal, I do not hear the alternative influences mentioned in one review at all, the others decribe it as melodic death. So submit it, this release is certainly metal enough.

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davkov85
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:20 pm 
 

Hi all,

do you think I can submit these bands? GREVE av alt evig IS, Midnatts Barn.

These are predecessors of Doodägass. Doodägass (also submitted by me) is in the archives for two years, and plays synthetic black-metal like music. (It's listed, a bit misleadingly, as black metal/ambient).

Now the two predecessors are nearer to the ambient side, but their histories are quite continuous with Doodägass. Strictly speaking they were not side projects of metal bands at international labels, as the rules prescribe, but I have the impression that they 'belong to the metal scene'.

Shall I add them? mp3s: http://www.guggenoten.de/html/discographie.html

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:23 am 
 

davkov85 wrote:
Hi all,

do you think I can submit these bands? GREVE av alt evig IS, Midnatts Barn.

These are predecessors of Doodägass. Doodägass (also submitted by me) is in the archives for two years, and plays synthetic black-metal like music. (It's listed, a bit misleadingly, as black metal/ambient).

Now the two predecessors are nearer to the ambient side, but their histories are quite continuous with Doodägass. Strictly speaking they were not side projects of metal bands at international labels, as the rules prescribe, but I have the impression that they 'belong to the metal scene'.

Shall I add them? mp3s: http://www.guggenoten.de/html/discographie.html


No, they are more electronic music than metal. If the band you have mentioned is similar, than they were accepted by mistake, which can happen sometimes, considering the number of listed bands. Please, spare your "impressions " the relevance to the metal scene is mentioned only in relation to the projects chosen by site's owners as an exception. Users are discouraged to submit such bands. It is explicitly written so in the rules and still this seems to be a problem area....

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