I have seen a lot of metal fans ruthlessly and brutally beat down and bash homosexuals (referred to as G.L.B.T. which means Gay, Lesbian, Bi, Trans) with a passion. So I am wondering what you guys think. I have a lot of bi friends, so naturally I am more open to their bisexuality.
Also, it seems to me that it is not "acceptable" to be G.L.B.T. in the metal community.
I hope that this will generate some interesting discussion.

Rob Halford is gay.

That is all.

As long as they pay taxes, I dont care what hole they stick it in.

I don't hide the fact that I think it's distasteful, or the fact that my opinion is largely a social construction. Beyond that though, I'd say that homosexuality falls in the "mildly degenerate" category somewhere between intentionally childless heterosexual relationships and watching television. It's a relatively highly visible and life-altering symptom of some sort of psychological damage, and its prevalence is a symptom of an unhealthy society. In other words, um yeah, there are going to be gay people around, and I don't really care as long as it's not shoved in my face. Flamboyant gayness is NOT the same or equally offensive as flamboyant straightness.

I have a little harder time with bisexuality. It's not so cut and dry since bisexuals can produce children. Still, I find the lifestyle distasteful, what can I say.

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Heh, the poster two posts above me seems to have a rather old-fashioned view.

I have no problems with homosexuals or homosexuality, as long as they don't start talking about sex at the dinner table. That's probably applicable to anyone talking about that stuff while one is trying to eat, though. Homosexuality is pretty common amongst the animal kingdom anyway, so I basically think "why not man too?" and it becomes a non-issue, really.

I don't have any issues with homosexuality, really. I mean, it won't bother me if I saw two guys holding hands at the shops or anything. However, what I don't like is people being ultragay, all the time. I can't stand it, and it seems like it's done for attention's sake, even if it's not intentional.

But again, I have no problems with it. My mate is bisexual and he's never lunged at me yet.

I agree with you. I don't care what orientation you are as long as you don't needlessly bring it up all of the time or whatever.

"Flaming" ones I guess you could say.

Yeah, I'm apathetic about this myself. Totally interested in the females myself, but for others I could careless. It just annoys me when people think being homosexual sets them above anyone else though or they're doing it for attention, kind of going with what Mikey's saying.

I think that it's really none of my business.

Although I'm all for equality to same sex couples.

I think sticking a penis in another mans ass is pretty fucking gross, but if I don't have to see it I don't give a fuck.

I don't have a problem with homosexuality. Honestly, I think it's totally fine to have a different sexual orientation. I got a good friend that's gay and he's just as normal and sane as anyone you could ever meet.

I don't really care about it, it's not my business who fucks who. I don't like homophobia any more than I like racism, sexism and the like, since it's not something a person can control. I still laugh at non-PC jokes, though.

I really don't think the metal community as a whole is anti-gay. Just look at Halford.

Well, I stick to your point of view. But I can't say that poop-flowers, erm, homosexuals are motivated by some animal resort. Not at all. In a world with such a huge amount of pornography vs. family vs. "spirit" vs. animality debates, there's no wonder with men/women getting fed up. Women in homosexuality... enhance the aesthetic part, while homosexual males aren't aesthetically imposing, but STILL very predictable. Droney said once something veeeeery interesting about misoginy.

I don't mind gays, I work with at least one, and I have one in the family. I will treat them the same as any other 'normal' human being, so long as they treat me the same.

Cada cual hace de su culo un pito.

Anyways, whatever you do with your ass is your problem and not mine.

But I really can't stand transvestites. Hate them to death. Used to live next to a tranny nest.

I have absolutely nothing against homosexuality/bisexuality/transsexuality in any of its forms (among consenting adults or at least teenagers, of course). I support gay and lesbian marriage and their rights to adopt children.

Though I'm not gay myself, I used to have quite a lot of gay and lesbian friends, and I have always found them to be friendly, warm-hearted and extremely funny (to laugh with, not to laugh at), though some lesbians tend to be a bit wary around men. Probably because of those experiences I can count myself lucky that I don't feel the discomfort I have observed in many other heterosexual males around gays.

When I first read some posts in this forum, I was rather astonished at how the word "gay" was used to label something as bad (or weak, or unmanly, or not metal enough, or whatever). Reading the earlier posts in this thread, I'm astonished again because I had concluded that a majority here was against or at least uncomfortable with homosexuality, but the above posts show different. So now I'm a little confused.

Seconded. Just don't bring that shit around me.

Of course I do not challenge a person's right to have sex with persons of the the same gender, or just about anything else they feel like, but I think that the whole homosexuality thing has gotten a bit out of hand, at least here in ultra-socially liberal Sweden. Every man who likes cock or woman who enjoys muff diving is made into a hero, and such individuals and the organisations that claim to represent them seem to get away with ridiculous behaviour. The Pride Festival is one such example. If normal people acted that way, it would probably be considered indecent exposure or something similar. But if they're gay, it's all right.

I also find Pride unfair to those homosexuals who want to live a relatively normal life, since it seems that a lot of people think that all homosexuals are like the ones in the Festival.

As for adoption and marriage, I'm pretty neutral. I read just the other day that a study said that children grow up better with an active father-figure, but I've also heard that studies have shown that there's no difference between normal and gay families. One thing I do have a strong opinion about though, is that if the government pressures the Church to wed gays, it should do the same to mosques, synagogues, etc. It would be very interesting to see how that would turn out.

People use the word gay to mean bad, or effeminate things, but it's really just a harmless laugh. I've even seen homosexual people refer to things that way.

I am guilty of that. It is instinctive, and I realise how silly it is, but unless I consciously stop myself from using it, it just 'pops out'.

well its cool as long as they don't come on to me. The having the same rights as hetro couples thing is so wrong because the whole world is based on furthering the human race as a species which means having kids and raising them and for that trend to continue ad infinitum. The government should not give special rewards/awards rights to those who wish to have same sex marriages or unions because in the long run the human race could eventually become totally gay and there would be no children being born. hell there are so many things in this world that can affect how kids are made and weaned and its in everyones best interest to continue to spread and flourish as men and women. It should not be easier or anyone getting special dispensation or rewards to be gay.

I'm pretty sure the world has enough people in it. Besides, homosexuality isn't a disease that spreads from parent to child, so it's not going to slowly turn the world gay.

I don't see what all the fuss is about. However, I get a bit confused when some gay people want to get married in a Catholic (or one of the many similar) ceremony. I also don't understand the argument behind forbidding legal unions for same sex couples.

Yeah...You do realize that 99% of the Earth's population could become gay and we'd still have 6 million heterosexuals around to produce children?

Anyway, I don't care what the hell they do. I can't even say I would care if I were come on to by another man if he wasn't being too aggressive. I'm for homosexuals being able to marry legally (Or at least a civil union where they have most of the benefits of married couples), and adopt children.

effeminate men, either gay or straight piss me off - I dont really care where you like to stick your dick - just dont be a fucking wimp

and dont fucking make a political agenda about your perversions for fucks sake!!?!
everyone gets off on something a little different than the next person - why use what gets you off to mold your entire being - is your personality that shallow?

Pretty much.

Choice of sexuality is a personal matter. It doesn't matter to me. The "gay pride" lifestyle and that other garbage is pretty pathetic though. You can be a homosexual (not that there's anything controversial or historical about it), just don't be an attention-starved, self-righteous, pseudo-victim fag.

Can't believe no ones said this yet.....It's a pain in the arse!

but seriously homosexuality is perfectly acceptable but I find the fact that homosexuals often feel the need to act camp really annoying.

I know what you mean, man. I had this one "friend" at school who turned homosexual. And he really let everyone know, too. As in, after a while he was wearing skin-tight singlets (I remember a pink one) and basically acting the part. I have no problems with it, but he was an asshole, so I didn't really like him anyway, and this was more ammunition. Last I heard he had a pink mohawk.

Oh, and his first name is Jagger. No bullshit. Maybe that was a catalyst, too.

I don't have a problem homosexuality, which is a good thing since my wife is bi.

The one problem I have with it is that girls love them so much. How come they get girls slobbering all over them they don't even like, when I don't get girls slobbering all over me.

That's just jealousy, though. I don't have a problem with them.

They're called "Fag hags". I guess a friendship with a homosexual male is one of the few friendships a woman can have with the opposite sex in which there is 0 chance of sexual attraction on the behalf of the male towards the female. A rare thing.

Don't ask don't tell. I don't give a shit what you do in private, but I don't want to hear about it, I don't want to see it, and it isn't fucking natural.

The very camp ones are ridiculed in gay circles too. Also, gays often laugh at camp behavior when exhibited by non-camp gays.
About the source of camp behavior: I think it comes from the phase when a young person that feels he is gay looks for role-models, finds none that he likes in the heterosexual world around him, and hits on a model that he perceives to be "feminine". In that process, bad accidents sometimes happen. Also, there are some stupid and tasteless gay persons just as there are stupid and tasteless heterosexuals.

I have to right to tell someone what their sexual orientation is, and neither does anyone else. If someone is homosexual, that's cool with me. It's a lot more harmful to be oppressive towards homosexuals as these people will suffer a lot more problems like depression, etc. Nature made them that way, so why should I hate someone for the way they are? Granted, it's pretty overbearing when guys are really damn flamboyant and festive. Then again, it's pretty lame when girls act like that ridiculous too (like, that really OMG IM HERE!!! kind of way), so I don't think I'm making a double standard.

I hate straight people (especially couples in public. You motherfuckers disgust me to no end) as much as I hate fags (fags are different from regular gay folk, and unfortunately are the majority it would seem. too many closeted folk, perhaps?), so no, I don't really give a fuck.

*not reading everything*

Of course i have nothing against homosexuals, no logical reason why i would hate them. But in some cases it may possibly cause some bothered feelings, though not much.

What i find funny, though, is how a lot of liberal "homosexualists" that seem to be passively campaigning tolerance with a dogma that every form of disagreement is either fear or close-minded old fashioned patterns that are inferior to the modern advanced intellectual liberal ideals, are really closet-conservatives, if according to them being conservative is intolerance in the name of certain set values. Im talking about homosexuals that are demanding everyone to accept them and their lifestyle, BUT, are not willing to accept people feeling uneasy for it. One cant help being a homo, one cant help feeling homophobic.

Another thing that pisses me off, is when people are proud of unrelated things. For an example, sexual orientation is not a matter of pride or shame, so why make a fucking "pride march" for homosexuality? Im straight, and im proud, but im not proud because im straight. It is not like i accomplished straightness and can now brag about how much i like pussy.

PS: Metal is not anti-gay. Metal is anti-pancy.

I don't mind them as long as they don't start yelling "LOOK AT ME I'M GAY LOL IM SO TOTLY DIFFRENT HEH LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME !!!!!1 IM LAIK TOTLY HOMOSEXUAL!!!1"

Unfortunately that happens quite a lot ...
Also I can't stand people who discriminate gays in a positive way. Or people who think they are heros/really brave/whatever.

Other than that I don't care.