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Zythifer
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:21 pm 
 

The problem is circular: if the government didn't behave in such an intrusive and forcefully coercive way, it wouldn't have any terrorists to worry about.

Why the fuck is this so hard to understand. FEAR RESTRICTS FREEDOM


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:57 pm 
 

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This is going to happen in every democratic country, Big Brother is watching you.
Democratic? No, it's not going to happen in any democratic country.
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Thulsa_Doom
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:04 pm 
 

Zythifer wrote:
The problem is circular: if the government didn't behave in such an intrusive and forcefully coercive way, it wouldn't have any terrorists to worry about.

Why the fuck is this so hard to understand. FEAR RESTRICTS FREEDOM


While your first point is simplistic, I generally agree with your second point.

Here in the UK, we have the largest concentration of CCTVs of any country in the world. Even above China, who could afford it if they wanted to. You can't walk to the post office or go get groceries without popping up 20 times on someone's CCTV network. Its scary how easily you don't notice.

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Nocturnum_Pestis
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:07 pm 
 

I heard somewhere that the US goverment are using things like Facebook to get info on people
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:11 pm 
 

Nocturnum_Pestis wrote:
I heard somewhere that the US goverment are using things like Facebook to get info on people

Never heard of that practice amongst the US government, but I do know that it's been said employers do this for potential employees.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:18 pm 
 

The FBI has already worked with MySpace to capture sex predators.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:34 pm 
 

haha FBI = Epic Fail

it's in west virginia, you won't be able to tell the people's characteristics because almost all of them are incest.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:41 pm 
 

Driotheri wrote:
Republican's don't really believe or even attempt to enforce that silly little paper called the Bill of Rights, as evident by the Patriot Act.


God you're a fucking stupid liberal. Do you even know who fucking Ron Paul is? Vote for him--he wants to give back all our freedom.

Oh, and he's a Republican you ignorant whelp.


I swear, the extreme left is no different from the extreme right, just non-stop ignorance hither and yon.
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BlackCancer
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:49 pm 
 

Thrashed_By_Mustaine wrote:
haha FBI = Epic Fail

it's in west virginia, you won't be able to tell the people's characteristics because almost all of them are incest.


I guess that would explain Mike Huckabee winning the Republican primary.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:53 pm 
 

Also, I would like to add that I've associated with FBI people in my work, and have been invited to do some work at the FBI.


Other details, unfortunately, none of you are in a position to know.
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OzzyApu
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:55 pm 
 

Resident_Hazard wrote:
Also, I would like to add that I've associated with FBI people in my work, and have been invited to do some work at the FBI.


Other details, unfortunately, none of you are in a position to know.

Except me - I talked with an FBI agent at the recruiting office today.
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Resident_Hazard
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:00 pm 
 

OzzyApu wrote:
Resident_Hazard wrote:
Also, I would like to add that I've associated with FBI people in my work, and have been invited to do some work at the FBI.


Other details, unfortunately, none of you are in a position to know.

Except me - I talked with an FBI agent at the recruiting office today.


Pssshhhh!!

You talked with an FBI agent at a recruiting office.

I have a security clearance and talked to one in an actual work setting in a secure environment. You are at liberty to hear nothing!! In fact, I have also given a briefing (of sorts) in front of FBI officials and high ranking Military officers.
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Zythifer
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:02 pm 
 

Resident_Hazard wrote:
Driotheri wrote:
Republican's don't really believe or even attempt to enforce that silly little paper called the Bill of Rights, as evident by the Patriot Act.


God you're a fucking stupid liberal. Do you even know who fucking Ron Paul is? Vote for him--he wants to give back all our freedom.

Oh, and he's a Republican you ignorant whelp.


I swear, the extreme left is no different from the extreme right, just non-stop ignorance hither and yon.
While his type does annoy the hell out of me, I can't exactly blame them, considering what the republican party has done to itself in recent years.

I do worry about the amount of pseudo-marxist garage that's being disseminated among our youth. If only these trendy liberals knew anything about fiscal conservatism or Ludwig Von Mises, they'd be heralding Paul.

Although, even if he doesn't win, there is still some hope for the future. More true conservatives are mobilizing, with guys like Murray Sabrin, BJ Lawson, and Jim Forsythe gaining momentum in the race to Congress. The pendulum is swinging back. Hopefully it happens soon enough.

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Resident_Hazard
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:07 pm 
 

Zythifer wrote:
Resident_Hazard wrote:
Driotheri wrote:
Republican's don't really believe or even attempt to enforce that silly little paper called the Bill of Rights, as evident by the Patriot Act.


God you're a fucking stupid liberal. Do you even know who fucking Ron Paul is? Vote for him--he wants to give back all our freedom.

Oh, and he's a Republican you ignorant whelp.


I swear, the extreme left is no different from the extreme right, just non-stop ignorance hither and yon.
While his type does annoy the hell out of me, I can't exactly blame them, considering what the republican party has done to itself in recent years.

I do worry about the amount of pseudo-marxist garage that's being disseminated among our youth. If only these trendy liberals knew anything about fiscal conservatism or Ludwig Von Mises, they'd be heralding Paul.

Although, even if he doesn't win, there is still some hope for the future. More true conservatives are mobilizing, with guys like Murray Sabrin, BJ Lawson, Jim Forsythe, and Bryan Greene gaining momentum in the race to Congress. The pendulum is swinging back. Hopefully it happens soon enough.


In the end, I think one of the worst things Bush did is make liberals so, so much more stupid. Now, many don't even try to listen to reason, they just clump all Republicans together and whine like little fucking bitches.

These are the same people that bitch when Bush gives a tax cut to rich people, but totally ignore when Hillary wants to tax the fuck out of us to give us a horrible blanket health care plan. I have health insurance provided to me by my government job. I don't need that bitch fucking it up.

John McCain and Hillary must not come near the White House. They will fuck this country up worse.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:12 pm 
 

Out of curiosity, of those who are USA'ers in here, who has voted so far?

I have.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:16 pm 
 

orionmetalhead wrote:
Out of curiosity, of those who are USA'ers in here, who has voted so far?

I have.


I was unable to. I had a crisis with my checking account today after getting my truck back from the shop, and I could only put so much gas into that near-empty tank. So I need to conserve my monies for the next couple days until my account shapes up.

Wouldn't have been a big deal, but my location to go vote for Ron Paul was about 15-20 minutes away.

Rumor has it he won the straw vote here in Minnesota.
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PriestofSadWings
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:23 pm 
 

Real live liberal here. Ron Paul? No thank you.

I'm not old enough to vote right now (I will be in November), but my vote will not go to Ron Paul on the off chance he gets nominated. I try not to "clump all Republicans together and whine like a little fucking bitch", but Huckabee, McCain, and Romney have the SAME stance on every issue, the differences being that McCain is a war hero, Huckabee is a Christian fundamentalist, and Romney is a good-looking Mormon. Really, the nominations for both parties are really going to be decided in a popularity contest.

As for Ron Paul, never. NEVER. He will gut the government, cut every useful government program that isn't sanctioned by the Constitution, cause economic disasters with his free-market policies, and just generally fuck everything up.

Edit: I'm not completely serious here, but I do believe that a Ron Paul presidency would be a disaster.
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Resident_Hazard
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:36 pm 
 

PriestofSadWings wrote:
Real live liberal here. Ron Paul? No thank you.

I'm not old enough to vote right now (I will be in November), but my vote will not go to Ron Paul on the off chance he gets nominated. I try not to "clump all Republicans together and whine like a little fucking bitch", but Huckabee, McCain, and Romney have the SAME stance on every issue, the differences being that McCain is a war hero, Huckabee is a Christian fundamentalist, and Romney is a good-looking Mormon. Really, the nominations for both parties are really going to be decided in a popularity contest.

As for Ron Paul, never. NEVER. He will gut the government, cut every useful government program that isn't sanctioned by the Constitution, cause economic disasters with his free-market policies, and just generally fuck everything up.

Edit: I'm not completely serious here, but I do believe that a Ron Paul presidency would be a disaster.


Yeah, he would cut the money wasting government programs that have been set up to waste tax money over the years. He would cut out illegal immigrants. He would cut out American bases overseas, and he would restore the constitution, and bring troops home to put money into the American economy instead of lame foreign economies.

All those fucking little minority groups nickel and diming the government's tax money are destroying government money that could be better used to protect the majority.

Hillary Clinton or John McCain presidencies would be disastrous.

Ron Paul is just what this country needs.

Go back to start and do it right this time.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:48 pm 
 

This is a great idea and it is for our own good becuase we have to be safe from the terrorist, terrorists, terrorists, TERRORISTS!!!!!

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Thulsa_Doom
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:06 pm 
 

Resident_Hazard wrote:
Ron Paul fapping


See Hurricane Katrina

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Svartalf
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:52 pm 
 

If the FBI knows everything I do, damn they must be confused...

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:39 am 
 

The F.B.I. can make imprints of my butt hairs when I'm dead! :lol:
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BeforeGod
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:45 am 
 

latinfiestacarnage wrote:
Proud to be Canadian. I aint got tat shit happening in my country :thumbsup:


Hahaha! At least the Americans still have freedoms to take away.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Canada/ ... 28913.html

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BeforeGod wrote:
latinfiestacarnage wrote:
Proud to be Canadian. I aint got tat shit happening in my country :thumbsup:


Hahaha! At least the Americans still have freedoms to take away.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Canada/ ... 28913.html

Friend of yours?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:09 am 
 

I've talked to him briefly a couple of times on the internet and we have a few mutual "real life" acquaintances. He seems like a nice enough guy. Anyway, it's the principle of the thing.

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BeforeGod wrote:
He seems like a nice enough guy.

:lol:
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DrOctavia wrote:
BeforeGod wrote:
He seems like a nice enough guy.

:lol:


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Stormalv
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I don't really care since I'm not from the US. Anyway, like someone else said, why bother if you are not a criminal? And no, I have nothing against fascism, as long as there is a good leadership though.
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Stormalv wrote:
And no, I have nothing against fascism, as long as there is a good leadership though.


Uh yeah, about that...

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I'm moving to Mexico...

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Wrath_Of_War wrote:
I'm moving to Mexico...


Don't drink the water.

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The_Grand_Destructor
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:42 pm 
 

Garbage_Can wrote:
Where's the problem with this? I'm not a criminal, so let them track me wherever I go.


Even if some horny creep at the FBI dungeon-of-doom decides to get off on watching you shower?

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The_Grand_Destructor wrote:
Garbage_Can wrote:
Where's the problem with this? I'm not a criminal, so let them track me wherever I go.


Even if some horny creep at the FBI dungeon-of-doom decides to get off on watching you shower?


I've always wanted a fan club.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:31 pm 
 

Thulsa_Doom wrote:
Resident_Hazard wrote:
Ron Paul fapping


See Hurricane Katrina


Ahhh, so you are in that 95% of people who UNDERSTAND ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT THE LOGISTICAL AND FINANCIAL AND SOCIETAL PROBLEMS WHICH AIDED IN THE GENERALLY PROBLEMATIC DAYS AFTER HURRICAINE KATRINA. INSTEAD, YOU LIKE TO DOLE OUT BLAME WHERE BLAME CANNOT BE DOLED OUT BECAUSE IT IS FUTILE AND ILLOGICAL TO BLAME EFFECTS OF WEATHER ON PEOPLE.

CONTRARY TO PSYCHO-CONSPIRACY PROPAGANDA, THE DAYS AFTER THE HURRICAINE WENT FAIRLY WELL* WITH MOST PEOPLE RECIEVING EXCESS MONEY TO HELP THEM OUT OF THIER DIFFICULT SITUATION, HOWEVER, NOTHING IS PERFECT AND NOT EVERYTHING ALWAYS GOES 100% ACCORDING TO PLANS. I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT ALL CAPS WRITING MANAGES TO FORCE SOME SEMBLANCE OF RATIONAL THOUGHT THROUGH YOUR THICK, THICK SKULL.

Congratulations, you're a moron.






*Aside from the problems that the victims brought upon themselves. You know, not leaving their homes when warned, shooting at rescuers, raping, beating, and harming one another and the like.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:40 pm 
 

Wrath_Of_War wrote:
I'm moving to Mexico...

Fuck that, I'm movin to Australia!
Mikey, I'm staying in your drum room! :lol:
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HighPlainsDrifter wrote:
Wrath_Of_War wrote:
I'm moving to Mexico...

Fuck that, I'm movin to Australia!
Mikey, I'm staying in your drum room! :lol:



If you're a gamer, you may want to avoid Australia. Nobody bans more games. Germany is second, I think.
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Resident_Hazard wrote:
HighPlainsDrifter wrote:
Wrath_Of_War wrote:
I'm moving to Mexico...

Fuck that, I'm movin to Australia!
Mikey, I'm staying in your drum room! :lol:



If you're a gamer, you may want to avoid Australia. Nobody bans more games. Germany is second, I think.

Meh, not too much.
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