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Nebster173
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:19 pm 
 

I just found out "Belial" was pronounced Bee-lee-yal. I used to pronounce it Ba-lie-yal.

Also a lot of people mispronounce Celtic Frost as Seltic Frost.

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Jackoroth
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:23 pm 
 

I've always pronounced Celtic Frost as Keltic Frost and literally the only other time I use Seltic is if I'm talking about the Celtic Bostons basketball team.
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Wilytank
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:28 pm 
 

I don't know how to pronounce Drudkh to begin with. Does that count?
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awheio
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:33 pm 
 

Hah, probably the vast majority of bands with names that aren't in English or German. Alcest, Peste Noire, Les Discrets...

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Necroghast
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:43 pm 
 

Wilytank wrote:
I don't know how to pronounce Drudkh to begin with. Does that count?


I've always pronounced it as "drood - kuh" but who knows if that's right.

One that really bugs me is Arsaidh/Saor. He changed the name from Arsaidh to Saor because of pronunciation issues... How is Saor any easier to pronounce? Sore? Sour? Say - or? I actually found Arsaidh easier to pronounce as "Ar - sayed"

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maidenpriestmanic
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:43 pm 
 

Jackoroth wrote:
I've always pronounced Celtic Frost as Keltic Frost and literally the only other time I use Seltic is if I'm talking about the Celtic Bostons basketball team.


It's pronounce Seltic? O_o

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AnimeDad
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:47 pm 
 

Beherit

"B...bHURRit... Beheyueeueurit."

Taake

"TAAAH-kay? TAAAH-kee? Toke? Taaaayk?"

Anaal Nathrakh

"Anal Nathrak."
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:09 pm 
 

Necroghast wrote:
Wilytank wrote:
I don't know how to pronounce Drudkh to begin with. Does that count?


I've always pronounced it as "drood - kuh" but who knows if that's right.

I heard it's just "drood," but I'm not 100% on that.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:10 pm 
 

AnimeDad wrote:
Anaal Nathrakh

"Anal Nathrak."

It's uh-nall. Not that the correct pronunciation stopped my friends from coming up with a medical condition of the bowels.

My biggest problem is with Amesoeurs. Am-eh-sorz? Am-ee-syurs? Too many vowels :annoyed:
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Necroghast
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:13 pm 
 

Pretty sure its "Ah - me - swah"? I'm sure French speakers could tell you.

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Gutterscream
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:23 pm 
 

maidenpriestmanic wrote:
Jackoroth wrote:
I've always pronounced Celtic Frost as Keltic Frost and literally the only other time I use Seltic is if I'm talking about the Celtic Bostons basketball team.


It's pronounce Seltic? O_o


He's right, and its how I've always known it to be. Tom Fischer himself pronounces it this way.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:26 pm 
 

Early on I said Sepultra to mean Sepultura. Still think Sepultra sounds better.
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Atropus
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:29 pm 
 

It's unclear whether Mutiilation is pronounced "Mutilation" or "Mu-tee-lation", so I just say "Mutilation" to avoid embarrassment.

Also, I know Varg pronounces "Burzum" with a long "u" sound and a kind of weird rolled "r". Tolkein pronounces it with long u's without the rolled "r".
Me and most metalheads I know pronounce it "Berzum" out of habit, and because any English speaker would sound ridiculous saying it the way Varg does.

Drudkh??? I can only imagine "drood" followed by a hacking sound in the back of my throat, so I avoid saying it altogether for fear of sounding Jewish..... :boo:

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motorsport
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:34 pm 
 

Gutterscream wrote:
Early on I said Sepultra to mean Sepultura. Still think Sepultra sounds better.


I always said "se-PUL-chur-a

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Commandaunt
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:38 pm 
 

A lot of those foreign names you can figure out easy with google translate's voice function - like Peste noire, taake, tsjuder, etc. One I'm not really about how to pronounce is !T.O.O.H! - You could just say the obliteration of humanity, but not everybody would know what you're talking about. Is it just simply "Too"? And despite how Tom pronounces Celtic, it can be pronounced either way, unless that was a conscious and intentional decision made by the band.

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Atropus
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:39 pm 
 

Brazilians say "Say-pool-toora"

You can hear it being chanted on the "Inner Self" video.....

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ChildClownOutlet
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:42 pm 
 

Eluveite. Eluveity?
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Atropus
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:43 pm 
 

Commandaunt wrote:
A lot of those foreign names you can figure out easy with google translate's voice function - like Peste noire, taake, tsjuder, etc. One I'm not really about how to pronounce is !T.O.O.H! - You could just say the obliteration of humanity, but not everybody would know what you're talking about. Is it just simply "Too"? And despite how Tom pronounces Celtic, it can be pronounced either way, unless that was a conscious and intentional decision made by the band.


According to an older metalhead friend of mine, there was some old interview, maybe on MTV or something, with Tom Warrior and Martin Ain where they were saying "Seltic", which is where the confusion could be..... Can't be sure though, can't find the interview they were referring to :???:
He seems pretty bitchy about saying "Keltic" nowadays.
Japanese presses of their CDs also label them "Serutiku Furosuto" in Katakana.

.....and there's also the S.O.D. song.....

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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:47 pm 
 

Gutterscream wrote:
Early on I said Sepultra to mean Sepultura. Still think Sepultra sounds better.


Coincidentally, I did the same thing for years. It does sound better, much like Sepultura early on. ;)

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Atropus
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:49 pm 
 

Sepultura's best album also had their worst cover art......

What's happening on the cover of Morbid Visions??? Satan tickling the holy armpits of Jesus????

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Commandaunt
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:15 am 
 

ChildClownOutlet wrote:
Eluveite. Eluveity?

Ell-Vay-Tee :)

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g_k
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:36 am 
 

see pull tura
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:42 am 
 

Kim Wilde and Zakk Wylde... I don't say "Waild" but "Villde". Hhaha!!! I've always done that. Wont change it either!!!

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AnimeDad
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:47 am 
 

Atropus wrote:
Sepultura's best album also had their worst cover art......

What's happening on the cover of Morbid Visions??? Satan tickling the holy armpits of Jesus????


I like it. It's a very Brazilian take on standard blasphemous metal covers. Satan's androgyny makes him seem more symbolic.

If you want a bad Sepultura cover look at that stupid CGI bird guy on mkII's last album.
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Bogdaniel
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:51 am 
 

I pronounce Necrophagist as "ne-kro-fey-gist" (with a hard "g"), thought a lot of people I know pronounce it as "ne-kro-fey-jist" (with a soft "g").

There's a few other variations I hear, as well.

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Huldrelok
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:37 am 
 

Have allways pronounced Kyuss Ke-Yuss, found out recently its Kai-Us.

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baron samedi
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:53 am 
 

Akercocke. For years I called them "a-ker-COCK"... only to eventually hear them say it in an interview "a-ker-koh-keh".


Also, am I the only one that says Drudkh as "dr-uh-d-kuh"?

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FasterDisaster
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:08 am 
 

Krisiun. CRY-SEE-UN? KRIS-EE-UN? KRIS-YOON? CRY-SHUN?

Akeldema. AH-KUL-DIMA? AKULL-DIMA? AH-KULL-DEE-MA? AKEL-DEMA?

I definitely know there's more than just those. I've certainly stumbled across this problem when in a rare instance of a metal conversation because I rarely say these names out loud. And when I go to mention a band I've probably been listening to for years, it always comes out like, "yeah, that one band they're called something like..." and then I just sound like an idiot. It's almost like having to learn a new language.

Wilytank wrote:
I don't know how to pronounce Drudkh to begin with. Does that count?

Not sure why, but every time I see this band name I say, "DRUUUUDGE."
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jgarci12
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:17 am 
 

I've always said Drudkh as like "truck" with a D sound at the beginning.

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Atropus
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:24 am 
 

Krisiun = "Cree-See-Yoon"

Important thing to remember, only English uses short vowels.

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Nephilim96
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:44 am 
 

I used to pronounce Xasthur as "Ex-zas-thur" instead of "Zas-ter", and I used to pronounce Anathema as "Anna-Theme-uh". I still find myself using the wrong pronunciation from time to time.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:46 am 
 

AnimeDad wrote:
"TAAAH-kay? TAAAH-kee? Toke? Taaaayk?"



I say Taake kinda like you say "talk", but I'm sure that's wrong.

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InnesI
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:10 am 
 

Necroghast wrote:
Wilytank wrote:
I don't know how to pronounce Drudkh to begin with. Does that count?


I've always pronounced it as "drood - kuh" but who knows if that's right.


I heard from someone who knows the language that said it was pronounced as "drood-kh". I don't know if he's correct but that's the way I started saying Drudkh from that point on. The kh-sound being a long k during exhaling.

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Anaal Nathrakh

"Anal Nathrak."


I say it the way they say it in Excalibur (the sample that is also included in the intro of one of the AN songs): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4I_zbi3Sak

Atropus wrote:
Also, I know Varg pronounces "Burzum" with a long "u" sound and a kind of weird rolled "r". Tolkein pronounces it with long u's without the rolled "r".
Me and most metalheads I know pronounce it "Berzum" out of habit, and because any English speaker would sound ridiculous saying it the way Varg does.


Varg clearly pronounces it in a Scandinavian way. We often have clear and rolling r's and the u-sound he uses is also very Scandinavian. I say it the same way he does. If that is because I have heard him use it that way or because I myself am Scandinavian (and the language it comes from isn't actually a real language) I don't know.


Otherwise a classic example is Motörhead. Since I'm Swedish I tend to actually pronounce it with the Ö-sound even though I know I shouldn't. It was just a fad for bands to add diacritic marks over randomly selected letters in band names. I find it works out nicely and doesn't sound to off since I do pronounce the rest in an English way. The Ö isn't that pronounced then.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:47 am 
 

Officium Triste!

Is it "Officium" like OFF-SHI-UM or OFFEESEE-UM?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:49 am 
 

iAmDisturbed wrote:
Officium Triste!

Is it "Officium" like OFF-SHI-UM or OFFEESEE-UM?


Sounds like latin to me which would probably mean its closer to a pronunciation without the sh-sound.

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waiguoren
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:53 am 
 

I was going through the second-hand records at a store here last weekend and found this:

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/De ... Begin/8426

Because I am a fucking idiot, I kept thinking it was 'Deth Rone', and just this morning I realized, 'What a damn minute, it's obviously De-Throne'.

I hope.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:14 am 
 

The word is pronounced "Keltic" pretty much everywhere but America to my knowledge. Either way works for Celtic Frost, though. It's not like it's a matter of life and death.
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captain_che
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:14 am 
 

Taake: http://www.forvo.com/word/taake/

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Syntek
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:19 am 
 

ClaymanOnFire wrote:
My biggest problem is with Amesoeurs. Am-eh-sorz? Am-ee-syurs? Too many vowels :annoyed:


"Am-ay-seurh" (with the slight gutteral 'r' at the end), I believe.
Even if my French grammar is effroyable, I'd say my pronunciation is somewhat alright.

But no, the name I have a problem with pronouncing is Lyfthrasyr.
I just get to "Lyfththh" and give up because I'm probably never gonna talk about them to anybody in real life anyway.

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bastardnasum
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:43 am 
 

generally bands like Beherit, belial and others whose name is referred to mythology or traditional demonology should be pronunced in the italian way (that is standard pronounce for latin and greek as well as for transliterating non western languages such as chinese, japanese, arabic: no nationalism or chauvinism at all, it's just an international language convention).
While french or latin bands bands should be pronounced as in their original language and it can give some troubles to those not used with french (as me, for example, totally negated in it)

So Belial should be pronounced Beh Lee Al
Beherit should be Beh heh reet

Russian bands have a quite plain pronouce similar to italian, but vowels without accent has different sound

for example: Voda (water) should be pronounced Vadà (accent is on the last vowel, so the first wovel changes from "O" to "A")

Teatr Tenej should be pronounced Tiatr Tyenyej ("E" becomes "I" in the first word because accent is on the "A", while it keeps it's original sound of "ye" in the second word) and in general russian "е" is pronounced as "ye" (except when it's after "T" or "D", while "ё" always sounds as "yo" (Пётр = Pёtr = Piotr)

Never heard that outside America Celtic Frost is pronounced Keltic....this is the very first time I hear such variant


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