Encyclopaedia Metallum: The Metal Archives

Message board

* FAQ    * Register   * Login 



Reply to topic
Author Message Previous topic | Next topic
yentass
Metalhead

Joined: Sun Nov 23, 2003 9:28 am
Posts: 927
Location: Israel
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:31 pm 
 

Do you live in North America or Europe? Do you have a PS3? Then you deserve my earnest of "fuck you"-s.
_________________
Voidal, Doom/Death Metulz.
kingnuuuur wrote:
DoomMetalAlchemist wrote:
I know nothing of hair care, so bare with me.

Metal dudes, assemble in the shower!

Top
 Profile  
failsafeman
Digital Dictator

Joined: Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:45 am
Posts: 11852
Location: In the Arena
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:47 pm 
 

stickyshooZ wrote:
Does anyone else here play Minecraft? I started playing about 2 weeks ago and I've become addicted.

I've played it on and off since beta, I'll go through a few days where I can't put it down but then I'll get tired of just how randomized and "grindy" it is, in survival anyway. The tech progression is just way too bottlenecked around digging randomly and hoping to stumble upon diamonds. I really think they should change it so diamonds are used for the best armor and weapons and such but aren't necessary for mining the best stuff, making enchantment tables, etc.
_________________
MorbidBlood wrote:
So the winner is Destruction and Infernal Overkill is the motherfucking skullcrushing poserkilling satan-worshiping 666 FUCK YOU greatest german thrash record.

Top
 Profile  
Morrigan
Crone of War

Joined: Sat Aug 10, 2002 7:27 am
Posts: 10528
Location: Canada
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:49 pm 
 

yentass wrote:
Do you live in North America or Europe? Do you have a PS3? Then you deserve my earnest of "fuck you"-s.

Hey, at least this means your playthrough will be 100% unspoiled. :)
_________________
Von Cichlid wrote:
I work with plenty of Oriental and Indian persons and we get along pretty good, and some females as well.

Markeri, in 2013 wrote:
a fairly agreed upon date [of the beginning of metal] is 1969. Metal is almost 25 years old

Top
 Profile  
Nochielo
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:20 am
Posts: 2388
Location: Puerto Rico
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:57 pm 
 

DreamOfDarkness wrote:
Let's see how much I can play Amnesia before quitting while crying like a baby :D

Good luck. I've been playing horror game for just over a decade now, and while I've gotten genuinely scared at a handful games, I have always pressed on valiantly, but Amnesia broke me for like a year, I couldn't play it for more than 15 minutes at a time and I had to lay off for a few days to recover. I realize that horror is very subjective (some people even get scared with Fatal Frame or Dead Space!) but, holy fuck, that is supremely (though blatantly flawed) scary.
_________________
last fm
"Beauty is the substance distilled
The rest of what you could not hold
You'd not take the splendor instilled
And I just couldn’t ask for more"

Top
 Profile  
Nahsil
Clerical Sturmgeschütz

Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:06 pm
Posts: 4578
Location: United States
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:59 pm 
 

People need to be more aware of the games they made before Amnesia, because the Penumbra series is EXCELLENT, and in my opinion way better than Amnesia, which I didn't have the motivation to finish.
_________________
and we are born
from the same womb
and hewn from
the same stone - Primordial, "Heathen Tribes"

Top
 Profile  
Nochielo
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:20 am
Posts: 2388
Location: Puerto Rico
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:24 pm 
 

I have the Penumbra Collection collecting metaphorical dust somewhere on my computer, I'll have to do my gaming homework (that is a thing starting NOW) and finally get to play those, but right now I'm pushing through Indigo Prophecy, because I don't have a PS3 to play Heavy Rain, so it will have to do.
_________________
last fm
"Beauty is the substance distilled
The rest of what you could not hold
You'd not take the splendor instilled
And I just couldn’t ask for more"

Top
 Profile  
Morrigan
Crone of War

Joined: Sat Aug 10, 2002 7:27 am
Posts: 10528
Location: Canada
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:20 pm 
 

Nochielo wrote:
right now I'm pushing through Indigo Prophecy

I am so sorry.

Quote:
because I don't have a PS3 to play Heavy Rain, so it will have to do.

The one advantage of not having a PS3.
_________________
Von Cichlid wrote:
I work with plenty of Oriental and Indian persons and we get along pretty good, and some females as well.

Markeri, in 2013 wrote:
a fairly agreed upon date [of the beginning of metal] is 1969. Metal is almost 25 years old

Top
 Profile  
Marag
Veteran

Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:55 pm
Posts: 2773
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:34 pm 
 

Morrigan wrote:

Quote:
because I don't have a PS3 to play Heavy Rain, so it will have to do.

The one advantage of not having a PS3.

:lol:

Top
 Profile  
Nochielo
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:20 am
Posts: 2388
Location: Puerto Rico
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:51 pm 
 

Morrigan wrote:
Nochielo wrote:
right now I'm pushing through Indigo Prophecy

I am so sorry.

Quote:
because I don't have a PS3 to play Heavy Rain, so it will have to do.

The one advantage of not having a PS3.

Oh really? I was under the impression that Heavy Rain was actually good. Is it any better than this? Indigo has been really underwhelming so far. I expected QTEs but I did not expect QTEs lasting 4 minutes each. I'll finish it though, because ehh.
_________________
last fm
"Beauty is the substance distilled
The rest of what you could not hold
You'd not take the splendor instilled
And I just couldn’t ask for more"

Top
 Profile  
stickyshooZ
TO HAVE AND TO HOLD

Joined: Fri Apr 16, 2004 12:29 am
Posts: 1376
Location: United States
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:29 am 
 

failsafeman wrote:
stickyshooZ wrote:
Does anyone else here play Minecraft? I started playing about 2 weeks ago and I've become addicted.

I've played it on and off since beta, I'll go through a few days where I can't put it down but then I'll get tired of just how randomized and "grindy" it is, in survival anyway. The tech progression is just way too bottlenecked around digging randomly and hoping to stumble upon diamonds. I really think they should change it so diamonds are used for the best armor and weapons and such but aren't necessary for mining the best stuff, making enchantment tables, etc.

It is kind of grindy, I agree. Also, the lack of having any clear objective can be kind of a downfall for some people. Have you explored the Netherworld? It's pretty neat.

I have the benefit of playing with a few friends, so we can kind of make our own objectives, which is nice. But I definitely agree on the part you mentioned about diamonds being sort of the be-all-end-all of mining goals.
_________________
Add me on Last.fm

Exkretor wrote:
The new Sadus sounds like fucking wrestling music.

Top
 Profile  
Morrigan
Crone of War

Joined: Sat Aug 10, 2002 7:27 am
Posts: 10528
Location: Canada
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:26 am 
 

Nochielo wrote:
Oh really? I was under the impression that Heavy Rain was actually good. Is it any better than this? Indigo has been really underwhelming so far. I expected QTEs but I did not expect QTEs lasting 4 minutes each. I'll finish it though, because ehh.

Heavy Rain is probably not as bad as Indigo Prophecy, but it's still terrible. Nothing but QTEs the entire time and the story has the stupidest plot twist ever.

Indigo Prophecy takes the cake though. A game made entirely of QTEs, with a story that starts intriguing, then... well, you'll see. David Cage couldn't write a decent story to save his life. Truly the biggest hack in gaming. Quantic Dream can die in a fire.
_________________
Von Cichlid wrote:
I work with plenty of Oriental and Indian persons and we get along pretty good, and some females as well.

Markeri, in 2013 wrote:
a fairly agreed upon date [of the beginning of metal] is 1969. Metal is almost 25 years old

Top
 Profile  
Sick6Six
Metalhead

Joined: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:01 pm
Posts: 1988
Location: Woodstock, IL
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:27 am 
 

Responding to myself as usual, I bought Divekick last night and played it with my wife, it was stupidly simple awesome fun. Could be a great drunken fun game.
_________________
My Bandcamp collection

Top
 Profile  
MARSDUDE
Shitposter

Joined: Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:17 pm
Posts: 2297
Location: Canada
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:42 am 
 

Nochielo wrote:
Oh really? I was under the impression that Heavy Rain was actually good. Is it any better than this? Indigo has been really underwhelming so far. I expected QTEs but I did not expect QTEs lasting 4 minutes each. I'll finish it though, because ehh.


Heavy Rain is more mature and has more money thrown into it. If you don't like Indigo Prophecy, you still might like Heavy Rain, but I doubt it.
_________________
kazhard wrote:
rarezuzuh wrote:
Fucking white people


Well, I’m glad to see you for who you really are.

Top
 Profile  
iamntbatman
Chaos Breed

Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:55 am
Posts: 11421
Location: Tyrn Gorthad
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:09 pm 
 

I'm totally with Morrigan on this one. When Indigo Prophecy came out I think my brother bought it immediately and was really into it; I watched him play for an hour or two and couldn't believe that this was an actual game that people played. QTE's are one of the most frustrating parts of recent games so to make a game where that makes up the entirety of the gameplay was just....ugh. It kind of reminds me of those vaguely interactive FMV games from the 90's.
_________________
Nolan_B wrote:
I've been punched in the face maybe 3 times in the past 6 months


GLOAMING - death/doom | COMA VOID - black/doom/post-rock

Top
 Profile  
Morrigan
Crone of War

Joined: Sat Aug 10, 2002 7:27 am
Posts: 10528
Location: Canada
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:35 pm 
 

Yeah those games are modern-day Dragon's Lair :lol:
_________________
Von Cichlid wrote:
I work with plenty of Oriental and Indian persons and we get along pretty good, and some females as well.

Markeri, in 2013 wrote:
a fairly agreed upon date [of the beginning of metal] is 1969. Metal is almost 25 years old

Top
 Profile  
PhilosophicalFrog
The Hypercube

Joined: Thu May 04, 2006 7:08 pm
Posts: 7631
Location: United States
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:46 pm 
 

skip Heavy Rain and all that garbage. Just play Deadly Premonition before anything.
_________________
hats prices are at an all time low

Spoiler: show
║\
║▒\
║▒▒\
║░▒║
║░▒║with this blade
║░▒║i cut those who
║░▒║disrespect
║░▒║Carly Rae Jepsen
║░▒║
║░▒║
║░▒║
▓▓▓▓
[█▓]
[█▓]
[█▓]
[█▓]

Top
 Profile  
~Guest 282118
Argentinian Asado Supremacy

Joined: Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:16 pm
Posts: 8300
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:47 pm 
 

Indigo Prophecy was very promising when I started playing it. I kinda liked the idea of an "interactive movie" where your actions affect the plot, and it was all sufficiently intriguing until ancient Mayan conspiracies and evil artificial intelligences and weirdo fucking Matrix-esque fight scenes popped up. When that happened, everything my brain could think of was "FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU".

Top
 Profile  
Dandelo
Metalhead

Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:08 am
Posts: 1096
Location: Ireland
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:50 pm 
 

PhilosophicalFrog wrote:
skip Heavy Rain and all that garbage. Just play Deadly Premonition before anything.


So says Mr Frog.

Top
 Profile  
PhilosophicalFrog
The Hypercube

Joined: Thu May 04, 2006 7:08 pm
Posts: 7631
Location: United States
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:10 pm 
 

:lol: I can't get over how bizarre and yet ludicrously charming that game was.
_________________
hats prices are at an all time low

Spoiler: show
║\
║▒\
║▒▒\
║░▒║
║░▒║with this blade
║░▒║i cut those who
║░▒║disrespect
║░▒║Carly Rae Jepsen
║░▒║
║░▒║
║░▒║
▓▓▓▓
[█▓]
[█▓]
[█▓]
[█▓]

Top
 Profile  
Nochielo
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:20 am
Posts: 2388
Location: Puerto Rico
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:47 pm 
 

Well, I guess I don't feel like I'm missing out on a great game for not having a PS3 anymore, thanks guys. Yeah I just got to the part where the Mayan thing is revealed (after the church) but I expected that because I recognized the language used by the hooded dude and the brush with the police (the one just before the church) was beyond retarded. On the plus side, I realized I like trip hop (beyond Akira Yamaoka) due to this brilliant song:

Anyway, Deadly Premonition is the shit, one of my top 5 videogames ever, despite what anyone says. One of the best endings ever and the gameplay is NOT broken as everyone argues, it just feels like an unpolished Resident Evil 4 which isn't bad
_________________
last fm
"Beauty is the substance distilled
The rest of what you could not hold
You'd not take the splendor instilled
And I just couldn’t ask for more"

Top
 Profile  
failsafeman
Digital Dictator

Joined: Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:45 am
Posts: 11852
Location: In the Arena
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:10 pm 
 

stickyshooZ wrote:
failsafeman wrote:
I've played it on and off since beta, I'll go through a few days where I can't put it down but then I'll get tired of just how randomized and "grindy" it is, in survival anyway. The tech progression is just way too bottlenecked around digging randomly and hoping to stumble upon diamonds. I really think they should change it so diamonds are used for the best armor and weapons and such but aren't necessary for mining the best stuff, making enchantment tables, etc.

It is kind of grindy, I agree. Also, the lack of having any clear objective can be kind of a downfall for some people. Have you explored the Netherworld? It's pretty neat.

I have the benefit of playing with a few friends, so we can kind of make our own objectives, which is nice. But I definitely agree on the part you mentioned about diamonds being sort of the be-all-end-all of mining goals.

Nah, I never got to the netherworld because by the time I finally got enough diamonds to make a pickaxe I just didn't care anymore. I've played with friends in the past, but this most recent time I picked it up, I was solo. I switched to Terraria yesterday actually, which I'd played like a year ago with HellBlazer but put down after reaching the content boundary. Since then it's had plenty of updates, so I'm starting from scratch and getting caught up. It's way better about providing goals, what with 8 or so bosses and tons and tons of weapons, spells, armor, etc., plus shit doesn't all degrade like it does in Minecraft. Really I think Terraria is better for solo challenge-oriented play, while Minecraft is better for more creative co-operative play.
_________________
MorbidBlood wrote:
So the winner is Destruction and Infernal Overkill is the motherfucking skullcrushing poserkilling satan-worshiping 666 FUCK YOU greatest german thrash record.

Top
 Profile  
Smoking_Gnu
Chicago Favorite

Joined: Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:22 pm
Posts: 4797
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:17 pm 
 

stickyshooZ wrote:
I have the benefit of playing with a few friends, so we can kind of make our own objectives, which is nice. But I definitely agree on the part you mentioned about diamonds being sort of the be-all-end-all of mining goals.


Try playing a survival multiplayer server with 24-hour deathbans. The sheer thrill of designing a base that's tough for people to find, fighting off home invasions, home-invading people, and the multitude of awesome ways you can interact with people gives the game a whole new layer, alongside the drive to play smart and resourcefully to avoid death. Once I started SMPing two years ago I've barely touched single player at all.
_________________
Hexenmacht46290 wrote:
Slayer are not as uneducated as people think, some of them did know how to read.

Top
 Profile  
Wilytank
Not a Flying Toy

Joined: Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:21 am
Posts: 5861
Location: 717
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:35 pm 
 

A friend of mine traded his copy of the original NES Megaman for Steel Battalion, controller and all. Anyone try playing that game?
_________________
Stygian Narcosis - My concert photography Facebook page - Instagram too

Top
 Profile  
Xeogred
Thunderbolt from Hell

Joined: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:28 pm
Posts: 7154
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:53 am 
 

I got my first platinum for Devil May Cry 3. So yeah I did end up beating it on every difficulty.

Bow down.

I can't get behind Indigo Prophecy or Heavy Rain at all personally. If I want QTE games, Give me insane Hindu/Buddhism mixed in with maximized crazy sci-fi elements SSJ5 DBZ styled action and Legend of the Galactic Heroes / Gunbuster sized space battles.

Kratos = Asura's cereal.

Top
 Profile  
iamntbatman
Chaos Breed

Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:55 am
Posts: 11421
Location: Tyrn Gorthad
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:07 am 
 

Witcher 1 and 2 are on sale for $2.50 and $5 respectively on Steam this weekend. I tried playing Witcher 1 back when it came out but my PC at the time could barely handle it which made the timing-based combat pretty frustrating. However the story is pretty cool, and the second game looks to be a big improvement gameplay-wise, so I snagged both.
_________________
Nolan_B wrote:
I've been punched in the face maybe 3 times in the past 6 months


GLOAMING - death/doom | COMA VOID - black/doom/post-rock

Top
 Profile  
Dandelo
Metalhead

Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:08 am
Posts: 1096
Location: Ireland
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:51 am 
 

I'm playing The Wonderful 101. This is pretty damn good, might even be the best thing Platinum Games have ever put out if it keeps up the pace.

Top
 Profile  
Kahalachan
Metalhead

Joined: Mon May 17, 2010 1:46 am
Posts: 573
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:21 pm 
 

Wow Square can't even get an HD remake right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhi7O565Ouo

Their "improvements" to the music is just cluttering up the sound and adding extra tracks in the background.

All they had to do was make it in HD.

Reminds me of when the Silent Hill HD collection was ruined with new voice acting.

BarryLamarBonds wrote:
jRPGs have migrated to portable consoles this generation, it seems.



I think this is very much true. The consoles feel they have to add flair. They don't do that to portables. The consoles also think you want to move around the battle area and mash buttons. Why?

The 3DS has Soul Hackers, Fire Emblem, and Shin Megami Tensei IV. I barely touched Fire Emblem and Shin Megami Tensei IV, but Soul Hackers is great. The other 2 really look solid and have good production value but remembers it's a JRPG.

Top
 Profile  
Nochielo
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:20 am
Posts: 2388
Location: Puerto Rico
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:43 pm 
 

Soul Hackers is the worst of the 3 and it's still damn cool.
_________________
last fm
"Beauty is the substance distilled
The rest of what you could not hold
You'd not take the splendor instilled
And I just couldn’t ask for more"

Top
 Profile  
MacMoney
Man of the Cloth

Joined: Sun Nov 03, 2002 10:17 pm
Posts: 2331
Location: Finland
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:02 pm 
 

iamntbatman wrote:
Witcher 1 and 2 are on sale for $2.50 and $5 respectively on Steam this weekend. I tried playing Witcher 1 back when it came out but my PC at the time could barely handle it which made the timing-based combat pretty frustrating. However the story is pretty cool, and the second game looks to be a big improvement gameplay-wise, so I snagged both.


The writing on Witcher is pretty damn sexist though. It really hits you over the head with a shovel with it. And then takes a bulldozer and runs you over just in case you didn't get it the first time. Really cringe inducing, especially since it feels that the main character is kind of a mary sue for the main writer.

Top
 Profile  
darkeningday
xXdArKenIngDayXx

Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:20 pm
Posts: 6032
Location: United States
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:12 pm 
 

I can't really disagree about the first one, but the second had a number of really excellent, strong female characters, none the least of whom was Saskia. I mean, sure, CDPR is nowhere near Bioware's progessiveness when it comes to gender dichotomization (or lack thereof) but I disagree that they pummel you into acceptance of atavistic hegemonic masculinity at every turn. A serious dearth of homosexual characters is about the only fair criticism that can be leveled against Twitcher2's representation of minorities, in my opinion.
_________________
Support Women's Health
Please donate to a local abortion fund of your choice here instead of high-profile national organizations like NARAL or Planned Parenthood. If you're unsure where to distribute funds, select an abortion trigger law state; any organization will do.


Last edited by darkeningday on Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Top
 Profile  
Marag
Veteran

Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:55 pm
Posts: 2773
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:20 pm 
 

MacMoney wrote:

The writing on Witcher is pretty damn sexist though. It really hits you over the head with a shovel with it. And then takes a bulldozer and runs you over just in case you didn't get it the first time. Really cringe inducing, especially since it feels that the main character is kind of a mary sue for the main writer.

I've been playing through the first Witcher and so far my impression is that women are only present in the game to provide it with tits.

darkeningday wrote:
CDPR is nowhere near Bioware's progessivenes

It's also nowhere near its shittyness

Top
 Profile  
Morrigan
Crone of War

Joined: Sat Aug 10, 2002 7:27 am
Posts: 10528
Location: Canada
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:46 pm 
 

MacMoney wrote:
The writing on Witcher is pretty damn sexist though. It really hits you over the head with a shovel with it. And then takes a bulldozer and runs you over just in case you didn't get it the first time. Really cringe inducing, especially since it feels that the main character is kind of a mary sue for the main writer.

Yeah, that turned me off from playing Witcher 2. Well, that and the shitty combat and shitty menus. xD Too bad, it could have been really awesome.

I mean Dragon's Crown has some pretty overt sexism at times, but at least the gameplay is fun and addictive.
_________________
Von Cichlid wrote:
I work with plenty of Oriental and Indian persons and we get along pretty good, and some females as well.

Markeri, in 2013 wrote:
a fairly agreed upon date [of the beginning of metal] is 1969. Metal is almost 25 years old

Top
 Profile  
darkeningday
xXdArKenIngDayXx

Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:20 pm
Posts: 6032
Location: United States
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:59 pm 
 

Twitcher2 really isn't sexist. It also isn't necessary to play the first to enjoy the second.
_________________
Support Women's Health
Please donate to a local abortion fund of your choice here instead of high-profile national organizations like NARAL or Planned Parenthood. If you're unsure where to distribute funds, select an abortion trigger law state; any organization will do.

Top
 Profile  
Kahalachan
Metalhead

Joined: Mon May 17, 2010 1:46 am
Posts: 573
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:21 pm 
 

How is Witcher sexist? Never played it. I know it's an action RPG and I know it has romances in it. Are the girls there just little sex slaves with no personality?

Something like Mass Effect or Dragon Age with male and female romances is cool. And a lot of those NPCs have personality.

If it tries to be a serious RPG but is blatant fan service, that's dumb.

Something like Dragon's Crown is supposed to be over the top and silly with fun gameplay, so its fanservice is just fine.

In context, if the game says "Don't take this seriously" that would mean that anything that could offend shouldn't be taken seriously. Stereotypes in Street Fighter or Punch Out = LOL but if Fight Night were to have them, not funny.

Nochielo wrote:
Soul Hackers is the worst of the 3 and it's still damn cool.



Yeah it is pretty cool. Better than most modern console JRPGs. It took me a long time to get used to the gameplay. You can't grind levels. Leveling up your main character is just a small portion of progression. You have to fuse demons and those demons level up through fusion. I'm still not getting the hang of earning money. I know if I say the right things to demons I get some cash. I don't know if there's an easier way to get money though.

Top
 Profile  
BlindTortureKill
Metalhead

Joined: Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:57 am
Posts: 1205
Location: Netherlands
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:17 pm 
 

MacMoney wrote:
iamntbatman wrote:
Witcher 1 and 2 are on sale for $2.50 and $5 respectively on Steam this weekend. I tried playing Witcher 1 back when it came out but my PC at the time could barely handle it which made the timing-based combat pretty frustrating. However the story is pretty cool, and the second game looks to be a big improvement gameplay-wise, so I snagged both.


The writing on Witcher is pretty damn sexist though. It really hits you over the head with a shovel with it. And then takes a bulldozer and runs you over just in case you didn't get it the first time. Really cringe inducing, especially since it feels that the main character is kind of a mary sue for the main writer.


Darkeningday already summed up my thoughts about the sexism, but how do you figure Geralt is a mary sue?
unique abilites, appearance and good with woman I'll give you, but those are superficial elements.
As the story advances, he gets physically and mentally bested on plenty of occasions, most of the people you meet are completely indifferent towards him and his plot importance is debatable at best.
He's constantly kept out of the loop by the people with real power (something he never obtains) and without spoiling anything specific, the take away message from the series so far has been "you ain't changing shit in the end, boy".

What the writers of the novels/games did, was take what would be a typical sword and sorcery wish fulfillment protagonist (see the superficial elements), then deconstructed it thoroughly.
The way he's handled is actually really refreshing, hence why I took offence.

Top
 Profile  
Gypaetus
Metalhead

Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:03 pm
Posts: 508
Location: Australia
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:17 pm 
 

MacMoney wrote:

The writing on Witcher is pretty damn sexist though. It really hits you over the head with a shovel with it. And then takes a bulldozer and runs you over just in case you didn't get it the first time.


I haven't played the first game, but I never noticed anything like this in the Witcher 2.

darkeningday wrote:
I can't really disagree about the first one, but the second had a number of really excellent, strong female characters, none the least of whom was Saskia. I mean, sure, CDPR is nowhere near Bioware's progessiveness when it comes to gender dichotomization (or lack thereof) but I disagree that they pummel you into acceptance of atavistic hegemonic masculinity at every turn. A serious dearth of homosexual characters is about the only fair criticism that can be leveled against Twitcher2's representation of minorities, in my opinion.


This sums it up pretty well.

Either way, I'm very much looking forward to the third installment - I loved the Witcher 2, so I'm hoping no. 3 is as good or better.
_________________
gomorro wrote:
I felt like if Ygritte shoved me chilly up my ass (Thats right, touched by fire)

Top
 Profile  
Nochielo
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:20 am
Posts: 2388
Location: Puerto Rico
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:17 pm 
 

Kahalachan wrote:
Nochielo wrote:
Soul Hackers is the worst of the 3 and it's still damn cool.

Yeah it is pretty cool. Better than most modern console JRPGs. It took me a long time to get used to the gameplay. You can't grind levels. Leveling up your main character is just a small portion of progression. You have to fuse demons and those demons level up through fusion. I'm still not getting the hang of earning money. I know if I say the right things to demons I get some cash. I don't know if there's an easier way to get money though.

Gameplay has a learning curve, you are going to get your ass handed to you more often than you'd think, and some times in really, really cheap ways. You can't grind, enemies give far too little experience but bosses will give you fucktons. Human characters are just short of worthless, demons are the only way to deal reasonable damage. In fact your character is basically a bloated, shiny jugular vein seeing that some bosses will target your character because losing him means game over. And no, as far as I know that is the way to make money. You can put your money in the bank and get some interest but you have to deposit a lot to make it worthwhile. Have you finished the game?

Other handheld SMT games are far better, Devil Survivor is excellent and IV has been an absolute joy to play, it's very similar to Soul Hackers in many aspects but with many upgrades.
_________________
last fm
"Beauty is the substance distilled
The rest of what you could not hold
You'd not take the splendor instilled
And I just couldn’t ask for more"

Top
 Profile  
iamntbatman
Chaos Breed

Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:55 am
Posts: 11421
Location: Tyrn Gorthad
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:36 pm 
 

I remember it being vaguely sexist. The women are all attractive and often wear somewhat skimpy outfits, and the game makes it clear that bedding women is sort of a minigame of sorts. I didn't play through the whole first game but from what I remember the female characters weren't any less interesting than the male ones and there were some really neat ones as well. You could just, well, bang them, if you put the effort into it.
_________________
Nolan_B wrote:
I've been punched in the face maybe 3 times in the past 6 months


GLOAMING - death/doom | COMA VOID - black/doom/post-rock

Top
 Profile  
OzzyApu
Metal freak

Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:11 am
Posts: 10821
Location: Seattle
PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:31 am 
 

iamntbatman wrote:
I remember it being vaguely sexist. The women are all attractive and often wear somewhat skimpy outfits, and the game makes it clear that bedding women is sort of a minigame of sorts. I didn't play through the whole first game but from what I remember the female characters weren't any less interesting than the male ones and there were some really neat ones as well. You could just, well, bang them, if you put the effort into it.

Gypaetus wrote:
MacMoney wrote:

The writing on Witcher is pretty damn sexist though. It really hits you over the head with a shovel with it. And then takes a bulldozer and runs you over just in case you didn't get it the first time.


I haven't played the first game, but I never noticed anything like this in the Witcher 2.

Witcher 1 you collected a card almost every time you had sex with a woman. Geralt gets laid a ton. In the second game it's far less so, and there are no cards to go with it.
_________________
gomorro wrote:
Yesterday was the birthday of school pal and I met the chick of my sigh (I've talked about here before, the she-wolf I use to be inlove with)... Maaan she was using a mini-skirt too damn insane... Dude you could saw her entire soul every time she sit...

Top
 Profile  
Xeogred
Thunderbolt from Hell

Joined: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:28 pm
Posts: 7154
PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:45 am 
 

I wonder if that'll be all over Cyberpunk. It's all too easy to squeeze in lots of sex in cyberpunk sci-fi. lol

Not sure why Dragon's Crown has spawned so much heat over that debate though... Mai Shiranui's been around since 1993!

Top
 Profile  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic Go to page Previous  1 ... 507, 508, 509, 510, 511, 512, 513 ... 940  Next


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 34 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

 
Jump to:  

Back to the Encyclopaedia Metallum


Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group