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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:44 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
By the way, it seems that bio is taken directly from the band's Facebook page. So, ironically, it's rather you who was point-whoring by copy-pasting it. Please be advised that such texts shouldn't be copied word-for-word. Create or re-write something using your own words. The bio you added is full of grammar mistakes as well (not counting the corrected months).

Doing something while being tired is never a good idea, I suppose... Since I don't have enough points to correct the mistakes, someone else should do it. You can removes those points regarding Paralytic from my account if you want, don't care much about them anyway. :)

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Overall, correcting grammar is allowed?

Why wouldn't it be? :P

That's a reminder for me to read the rules. Usually, I run through the lines fast...

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:44 am 
 

algis242 wrote:
You can removes those points regarding Paralytic from my account if you want, don't care much about them anyway. :)

Don't worry about it.
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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:35 pm 
 

Per this report: MetalizeR888 is adding lineups based on band photos, and not the actual lineup.
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Obscurum
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:26 am 
 

D_Icon and yentass should be sent a message telling them not to do this. I took care of the pages. The former also incorrectly changed some Hungarian.
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Zorg85
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:47 am 
 

Ban user robberson for vandalism

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Zircon/75326

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Cursarion
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:13 pm 
 

robberson is apparently banned now.

Messaged MetalizeR888, D_Icon and yentass. Obscurum: I guess D_Icon added Chrille Anderson, but who did yentass add?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:33 pm 
 

D_Icon added Pavel Lyakhov, and I removed a couple Theodor Kittelsen pages (can't remember who added him--I think either D-Icon or yentass).

EDIT: The user who added Theodor Kittelsen added two separate pages for some reason.
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yentass
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:04 am 
 

First off, it was ME who added Pavel Lyakhov. Secondly, where is your proof my addition wasn't valid?
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Obscurum
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:36 am 
 

... I see that now. Mixed you guys up, my apologies. And it was indeed D_Icon who added Kittelsen.

yentass wrote:
Secondly, where is your proof my addition wasn't valid?

It's not that your update wasn't valid. Artist pages should only be created for artists who purposefully and knowingly contributed to an album/band; in the case of painters (mostly), they are usually long dead by the time a band uses their work, which is done so technically without the painter's permission. Nor should an existing artist be credited for something (s)he didn't intentionally contribute to. Example: Suppose a band covers a Dio song, even though Dio himself wrote the lyrics for it, he should not be credited under the covering band's album lineups under "lyrics".

This should explain what I'm trying to say much better than I can. Also doubles as a small list of artists to not add and that you should report for deletion if you stumble across.
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yentass
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:00 am 
 

Well, I'm sure Pavel Lyakhov, a contemporary and young artist, would be delighted to know he's dead just because he's a painter. Hell, you can jump ship on this new Google thing to look up and tell him yourself, on his Facebook page, the latest post on which is as recent as last Thursday.

And for future reference, point whoring is a repeated offence carried with the sole purpose of boosting one's point count. If the former isn't true and there aren't enough grounds to suspice the latter, you use the report function on the main site to report a mistake. And even that requires you to provide proof (in this instance - something clear cut that indicates the painting in question wasn't licensed to the band).
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MutantClannfear
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:33 am 
 

I think that the reason Pavel Lyakhov isn't eligible for an entry is because his artwork wasn't commissioned for any specific band, not because he's dead.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:35 am 
 

The artists don't have to be dead ... Point is, Pavel's art wasn't specifically created for the albums that later used them, probably.
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And even that requires you to provide proof (in this instance - something clear cut that indicates the painting in question wasn't licensed to the band).]And even that requires you to provide proof (in this instance - something clear cut that indicates the painting in question wasn't licensed to the band).

You have a point there. When I originally removed him, I actually wasn't aware he was still alive and thought he was like most of the other artists mentioned in that other thread. Hm. I will go ahead and ask Pavel about this, and if it turns out he did paint that cover for Abstract Spirit, then I'm sorry for inconveniencing you.

Also, this thread isn't entirely for point whores, it's also the place to tell the mods about users who should be messaged/warned about anything they're doing wrong, really--the reason I posted about you: to hopefully prevent you from adding anymore "unacceptable" artists to the site.
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yentass
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:57 am 
 

So it happens I've made the leg work for you, and no, he didn't paint the picture exclusively for the album. With that being said, the subject isn't as clear cut (a brief look at the thread gives out that Morrigan and Azmodes have different takes on the matter, and with all due respect - I'd go with the one who've made and runs the site). But anyway, you should've reported the instance (not me!) in that very same thread and not this one.

And no, the pointwhore thread is intended for exactly that. It is meant to track offenders and ban them, not to educate users on small mistakes they make. And when you'll have a similar mileage to mine that's put under jeopardy by someone who doesn't even make a proper case for it - I assume you'll be pissed as well.
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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 4:07 am 
 

I agree that Yentass is a pretty respected user and that wasn't pointwhoring, mistakes can happen. Maybe shoot him a message next time? Right now, we'll go with Azmo's point of view and even though he's not the creator of the site, he IS a metal god so his word is meaningful.
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yentass
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 4:31 am 
 

Just to reiterate - I never meant to insinuate otherwise. Frankly, it was an illadvised, spur of the moment slip on my behalf that I didn't mean nor ever followed.
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MetalizeR888
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Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:45 pm
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:15 pm 
 

MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
Per this report: MetalizeR888 is adding lineups based on band photos, and not the actual lineup.


Sorry, I put that information for the band photo of the split. Dont read the booklet, my bad.

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Midnightwards666
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:49 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/users/LordSeth%20MMT

Lyrics one by one (again).
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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:59 pm 
 

HouseSpiders wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/users/LordSeth%20MMT

Lyrics one by one (again).


He has a weird issue with security policies that cause edits with more than one field changed to time out. To make a long story short, we made an exception to this for him, since he has been good with adding reliable data and isn't abusing it to gain privileges.

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Haat888
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 2:44 pm 
 

User http://www.metal-archives.com/users/Crossripper added track lengths 1 by 1

here:

http://www.metal-archives.com/history/v ... /id/287325

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Sa ... ind/321895

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theunrelentingattack
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:01 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/users/Master6Of6Devil6

This guy has had multiple Metallica bootlegs removed - now he's added a Megadeth DVD, which I'm pretty sure is a boot and two albums under the wrong band that will need to be removed as well.

If he wasn't already warned, can someone drop him a line.
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Haat888
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:19 am 
 

We got a new genius ..

Blasphemer1349, useless reports

http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 2/show/all
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 3/show/all
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 4/show/all
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 5/show/all
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 6/show/all
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 7/show/all

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Haat888
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:34 am 
 

User SzatanSerdutszko88 is adding useless links to last.fm or wikipedia and ridiculous photos

ex: http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/Nylon/5269

http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/Otal/375530

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theunrelentingattack
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:01 pm 
 

Haat888 wrote:
User SzatanSerdutszko88 is adding useless links to last.fm or wikipedia and ridiculous photos

ex: http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/Nylon/5269

http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/Otal/375530


I've cleaned up the blatently terrible photos.
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Cursarion
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:29 pm 
 

Haat888 wrote:
We got a new genius ..

Blasphemer1349, useless reports

Told him to stop that.
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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:53 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/users/Total_Soul_Rape - Went through White Ward's releases and added members without bother to check if they were still in the band at the time of recording.
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Zorg85
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:55 am 
 

I think user Totalhate68686 is adding wrong/random line-ups for many ns bands

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Pa ... r_88/29080

Vortigern Vocals, Bass, Drums, Guitars, Effects, Mandolin
Fumaroth Drums, Keyboards
Vautrin Vocals, Keyboards, Guitars

And the tracks were recorded live? dunno how they did :D

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Cursarion
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:31 am 
 

MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/users/Total_Soul_Rape - Went through White Ward's releases and added members without bother to check if they were still in the band at the time of recording.

I messaged him about your post here, let's see what he says. (I didn't realize at first you correct them all already)

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I think user Totalhate68686 is adding wrong/random line-ups for many ns bands

It indeed looks like at least some are wrong. I messaged him, I'll see what he says and remove the bullshit ones (supposing some of them are legit).
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Total_Soul_Rape
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:14 am 
 

Hey,,

Srry for the mistake can't really remember this action of myself.
Mostly i only update the bands that i know and i don't know this band...
So i have no idea. Srry for the mistake.

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Haat888
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:24 pm 
 

User crossripper added lyrics 1 by 1 here

http://www.metal-archives.com/history/v ... /id/255703

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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:42 pm 
 

Haat888 wrote:
User crossripper added lyrics 1 by 1 here

http://www.metal-archives.com/history/v ... /id/255703


Warned

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aloof
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:55 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/users/LordSeth%20MMT has almost made it to veteran by adding lyrics one by one... though, looking at the time sigs, he probably types them in himself (as opposed to copy/pasting them), so please go easy on him :) quite likely he doesn't know
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:57 am 
 

aloof wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/users/LordSeth%20MMT has almost made it to veteran by adding lyrics one by one... though, looking at the time sigs, he probably types them in himself (as opposed to copy/pasting them), so please go easy on him :) quite likely he doesn't know

Zodijackyl wrote:
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http://www.metal-archives.com/users/LordSeth%20MMT

Lyrics one by one (again).


He has a weird issue with security policies that cause edits with more than one field changed to time out. To make a long story short, we made an exception to this for him, since he has been good with adding reliable data and isn't abusing it to gain privileges.
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aloof
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:01 am 
 

ah, ok. sorries :(
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Zorg85
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:17 pm 
 

ThraxTalliSlayDeth added an album without tracklisting "Warbringer - IV: Empires Collapse"

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Wa ... pse/386536

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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:24 pm 
 

Warned.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:56 pm 
 

As far as I could see, this guy went through a shitload of bands without past members and simply added the main lineup to the album(s). -_________- (EDIT: I think some more emoticonic tagging is called for: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :fuck: :fuck: :fuck: :brick: :brick: :| ) Already warned and points removed, but there's lots of guessed junk data to clean up in his modification history, if anyone is willing.
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Obscurum
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:30 pm 
 

Jesus Christ ... On it.

EDIT: Resolved.
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Amoebic_D
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:16 pm 
 

I'm just going to put this out there because there are a few users that are incorrectly changing the title of the Ruins of Beverast's new album, the correct title is "Blood Vaults - The Blazing Gospel of Heinrich Kramer." There are no parenthesis in the title whatsoever.

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Cursarion
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:58 pm 
 

^ Directed him here.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:55 pm 
 

Amoebic_D wrote:
I'm just going to put this out there because there are a few users that are incorrectly changing the title of the Ruins of Beverast's new album, the correct title is "Blood Vaults - The Blazing Gospel of Heinrich Kramer." There are no parenthesis in the title whatsoever.

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The promo sent out for review purposes says:

THE RUINS OF BEVERAST
Blood Vaults – The Blazing Gospel Of Heinrich Kramer (Cryptae Sanguinum – Evangelium Flagrans Henrici Institoris)
Ván Records
6 September 2013

After a four-year wait, and celebrating the act’s ten-year mark in 2013, the newest works from THE RUINS OF BEVERAST are nearing public availability with the pending release of Blood Vaults -- The Blazing Gospel Of Heinrich Kramer (Cryptae Sanguinum -- Evangelium Flagrans Henrici Institoris).

It also says it on the Van youtube page:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7Jn27QEvmQ
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