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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:36 pm 
 

That second one to me looks like a Sony DADC repress, the matrix is quite distinctive, no way is this from 1993
The first one http://www.discogs.com/label/Disctronics+S may be a clue
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:53 pm 
 

Yeah, that second one should be a repress. Thing is... there's absolutely no info on it whatsoever. That is, apart from the several copies that were sold on Ebay. Or that are still for sale as that link proves.

Maybe some of the old collectors know something more about this?!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:12 am 
 

Maybe you should take one for the team and buy it so you can update Discogs :thumbsup:
If they claim it's a "first press" [aka an original] and it isn't, you can get your money back in theory.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:40 am 
 

Funny that you mention that. I purchased a copy of the second edition I mentioned above recently, which arrived yesterday. Hence my post. ;)

I just wanted some reassurance, although this feels pretty legit to me.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:07 pm 
 

Oh you bought one? I didn't see that in your post :roll:
Does it smell like a Pirate's nutsack? if not then you're good to go
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:52 pm 
 

I didn't actually mention it before, but yes, I bought a copy which is identical to that second one. As I said though it seems pretty legit, although I wanted to know more about it since there aren't any known represses, allegedly.

Guess I'm not getting any luck with that... :(
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:56 am 
 

I have a Crypt of Kerberos CD from when it came out. I can check f there are differneces?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:21 am 
 

Marmer wrote:
I have a Crypt of Kerberos CD from when it came out. I can check f there are differneces?

Please do! :)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:50 pm 
 

And update Discogs too?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:06 pm 
 

dreadmeat wrote:
And update Discogs too?

Easy boy, we have time for that. :p
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:32 pm 
 

I try to make Some pictures. And send em to ya ok?

From THE inner Side. Matrix booklet and so on.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:59 am 
 

Hey cool, I accidentally bought a Dark Angel bootleg because I didn't read properly :roll:

http://www.discogs.com/release/4832184
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:57 am 
 

I mailed you the pictures of the cd and so on.. Cheerz.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:30 pm 
 

For those who care, I've added the COK release to Discogs. You can check it here. I've intentionally left the date of release blank because that's something I couldn't verify, and I've tried to make the information present as complete as possible.

After discussing this with innumerous people I've come to the conclusion that it's legit.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:34 am 
 

I uncovered another version of Revenge - Attack.Blood.Revenge on CD if you guys are interested, check out the scans etc
They have numerous differences throughout

http://www.discogs.com/release/4843220
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http://www.discogs.com/release/852992
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Stone69
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:35 am 
 

Had anyone answered this issue regarding the Setherial - Nord CD? viewtopic.php?f=1&t=71177

Like him, I also possess both versions. I don't know which one should I dispose because I could not confirm which one is the original/first press. hahaha!

Also, just found out that my God Dethroned - Blood Blasphemy CD doesn't have the IFPI code, considered bootleg/counterfeit right?

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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:38 am 
 

Stone69 wrote:
Also, just found out that my God Dethroned - Blood Blasphemy CD doesn't have the IFPI code, considered bootleg/counterfeit right?
Absolutely not, I have loads of legit CDs with no [visible] SID codes
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:42 am 
 

dreadmeat wrote:
Stone69 wrote:
Also, just found out that my God Dethroned - Blood Blasphemy CD doesn't have the IFPI code, considered bootleg/counterfeit right?
Absolutely not, I have loads of legit CDs with no [visible] SID codes


Horns up komrade! :hyper: Glad to know that! :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:44 am 
 

I see it's on Metal Blade? they often don't have any, Relapse too by the way, not sure why!
http://www.discogs.com/master/41167
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:28 am 
 

dreadmeat wrote:
I see it's on Metal Blade? they often don't have any, Relapse too by the way, not sure why!
http://www.discogs.com/master/41167

Yes it is Metal Blade, mmmm a question that only them labels could answer! :brick:
http://www.discogs.com/God-Dethroned-Bl ... se/3468932 this is the exact CD matrix on mine. hehe

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:55 pm 
 

Found another peanut to crack.

Queen - The 12" Collection
Was issued only in box - http://www.discogs.com/Queen-Box-Of-Tri ... ase/957443
Some copies was also available outside that box via Queen fan club.
Now I have 2 different versions, got them from old warehouse stock.
But not that old, that I could exclude bootleg existence.

Looks like boot or not?

1 Version
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:05 pm 
 

US vs UK, could be a repress or like you say just the other version.
If you look through the ones for sale at Discogs you'll see people have tapes and all sorts for sale in there that aren't in the database [and need adding!]
You'll notice too your matrix is totally different to the image on Discogs
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:31 am 
 

Anyone else got a Korean version of Obituary - Cause Of Death on CD?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:02 am 
 

dreadmeat wrote:
Just tripped over a bootleg of Immolation - Dawn Of Possession
Maybe it's old news maybe it isn't but thankfully someone posted some good quality images

That font is all wrong but the text is accurate
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The image printed onto the centre of the disc shouldn't be there, it should be clear, and is darker
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Odd looking barcode and darker artwork etc
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Hail komrades!
I am currently on a deal and trying to buy Immolation - Dawn Of Possessions and Malevolent Creation - The Ten Commandments CD. I asked for both title's picture scan and this was sent to me, could you tell if both are legit copies or not? Thanks!
It seems to me that the Immolation CD is the same as the one above, being suspected of a boot?
Immolation - Dawn Of Possessions disc
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Malevolent Creation - The 10 Commandments disc
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Could anyone help me before I close this deal? Thanks!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:32 am 
 

Just notice the differences between the matrix font on the Malevolent Creation CD and on the Immolation one. Without checking it in depth I'd say the first is legit and the later isn't.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:44 am 
 

androdion wrote:
Just notice the differences between the matrix font on the Malevolent Creation CD and on the Immolation one. Without checking it in depth I'd say the first is legit and the later isn't.

Thanks komrade! Finally concluded this one!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:32 pm 
 

I wouldn't touch the Immolation one but the Malevolent Creation may be ok, have you compared it to Discogs?
My copy of Ten Commandments is a US version and also a repress so is quite a bit different
That one above is European, both made my Sonopress though and that font looks fine to me
No ifpi sid codes? maybe it's an original... valuable stuff mate

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:11 am 
 

dreadmeat wrote:
I wouldn't touch the Immolation one but the Malevolent Creation may be ok, have you compared it to Discogs?
My copy of Ten Commandments is a US version and also a repress so is quite a bit different
That one above is European, both made my Sonopress though and that font looks fine to me
No ifpi sid codes? maybe it's an original... valuable stuff mate
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Yes, the Malevolent Creation has no IFPI SID codes.
Done a search on discogs and saw some images, had compared the Immolation disc to the one posted on discogs, it was exactly the same as the one being labeled as "Bootleg". :metal:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:15 pm 
 

Hopefully this hasn't been posted already but I finally got around to adding on Discogs a bootleg I purchased from Napalm Records of "The black - The Priest of Satan" last year. I wasn't aware it was a bootleg when I bought it but I ended up messaging Paul Thind (aka Typhon, who owned and operated Necropolis Records) on Facebook and he confirmed it is indeed a bootleg. Unfortunately I don't know what year it was bootlegged or by whom but I added good quality photos to the submission for reference.

Here is the link for anyone interested:

http://www.discogs.com/Black-The-Priest-Of-Satan/release/4872790
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:28 pm 
 

Good work, and again the matrix font is the giveaway, that and the 'official word'.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:30 pm 
 

dreadmeat wrote:
Good work, and again the matrix font is the giveaway, that and the 'official word'.


Thank you, much appreciated. Is the matrix font a giveaway in general or when compared to the matrix font on other versions of this cd which are official?
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Experience from seeing thousands of matrices to me it just doesn't look right.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:35 pm 
 

dreadmeat wrote:
Experience from seeing thousands of matrices to me it just doesn't look right.


Gotcha, thanks. That's good to know!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:40 pm 
 

I think you should create a new label Necropolis Records (2) for bootlegs.
To do that just add (2) to the end of the current label and save it.
It'll complain about a new label, I'll add a note to the Necropolis Records page.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:43 pm 
 

dreadmeat wrote:
I think you should create a new label Necropolis Records (2) for bootlegs.
To do that just add (2) to the end of the current label and save it.
It'll complain about a new label, I'll add a note to the Necropolis Records page.


Ok sounds good. I'll edit it now. What does the (2) signify?
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Roc wrote:
Ok sounds good. I'll edit it now. What does the (2) signify?
It's just a unique name, often a label will have a 'corresponding' bootleg label that just has a (2) after it, but it could be taken by another label with the same name, it could be (3) or (17) or (50) depending on how common the name is.
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dreadmeat wrote:
Roc wrote:
Ok sounds good. I'll edit it now. What does the (2) signify?
It's just a unique name, often a label will have a 'corresponding' bootleg label that just has a (2) after it, but it could be taken by another label with the same name, it could be (3) or (17) or (50) depending on how common the name is.


Oh ok I see. So basically just something extra to help show people that it's a bootleg. Sounds good.
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Go check out the labels now :thumbsup:
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:51 pm 
 

dreadmeat wrote:
Go check out the labels now :thumbsup:


Awesome! Thank you very much for the advice and help/votes, I really appreciate it!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:57 pm 
 

It's all good man

Does anyone have a copy of AzarathDiabolic Impious Evil with a cardboard sleeve or without?
And if it doesn't have the sleeve was that how you bought it? and if that was how you bought it was it new like that?
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