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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:13 pm 
 

"You need to have the same pop culture references I have!!!!!!!!"
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:15 pm 
 

Metantoine wrote:
"You need to have the same pop culture references I have!!!!!!!!"

#xxxYOLOSWAGDADDY4/20xxx

But I digress.

Besides the Chocolate Factory, Blazing Saddles, and Young Frankenstien what other good movies was Gene in?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:18 pm 
 

Zelkiiro wrote:
Necroticism174 wrote:
Caught the end of Mortal Kombat: Annihilation on tv. Yeah, the dialog/everything is terrible but HOLY SHIT the CGI is bad. Liu Kang turns into a dragon out of nowhere and it looks baaaaddd.

Worse than this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdol1dMEtMY&t=01m08s


How about the dragonball evolution movie? I saw that with some friends and the gaurds actually had to come in and tell people to be quiet because they were making fun of it too much.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:19 pm 
 

I haven't seen either chocolate wonkary and I'm not planning to. One of my best friends hasn't seen the original Star Wars trilogy and I have yet to headbutt her bosom for it. There's always gonna be some pop cultural gap someone has that seems utterly unbelievable to others, it happens. No need to be annoying about it. There's no compulsory list of works one just has to be familiar with, watch what you like and/or are interested in.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:22 pm 
 

Dragon Ball Evolution has Goku GOING TO SCHOOL... Enough said.

What the fuck where they thinking!?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:24 pm 
 

Did everybody's panties really get in an uproar over that? Good lord the point was that the Tim Burton remake was shit. Y'all're a tough crowd.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:25 pm 
 

OpsiusCato wrote:
He's a Navy Veteran. There's a difference.


Oh, well I didn't know he was a navy vet. Headbutting a woman in a MacDonalds (presumably in front of a bunch of children) is totally acceptable behaviour then. Nothing strikes fear in to the heart of Islam like their proudest performing domestic violence due to her preference of Johnny Depp over Gene Wilder as Wonka.

Unless he's full of shit. Either way. He's about as funny as meningitis.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:23 pm 
 

OpsiusCato wrote:
He's a Navy Veteran. There's a difference.

Who's a navy vet? BH? Whaaa?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:41 pm 
 

He was, but then Jack Nicholson had to bring him to prison.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:44 pm 
 

He never went through basic training, therefore he isn't a vet. But anyway, most remakes stinking, yes!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:02 pm 
 

OzzyApu wrote:
He never went through basic training, therefore he isn't a vet. But anyway, most remakes stinking, yes!


Ha! Try again! It starts the instant I was sworn in, and thus I do have to put that I'm a veteran on all future job applications and whatnot, otherwise it'll show up on my background checks and I get shafted. But the government doesn't owe me shit. Shafted all around!
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Grave_Wyrm
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:40 pm 
 

BastardHead wrote:
Did everybody's panties really get in an uproar over that? Good lord the point was that the Tim Burton remake was shit. Y'all're a tough crowd.

Color me stupid, but it looks like you were talking more about how much better your taste is than hers and how she should be hit and walked out on, rejected and berated for not being cool enough for you. I hope you apologized at some point, but I doubt you think she deserves that kind of thing.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:51 pm 
 

DISCLAIMER: THAT STORY WAS OBVIOUSLY BULLSHIT. I NEVER HEADBUTT A WOMAN OVER HER TASTE IN MOVIES. I TRIED MAKING A JOKE ABOUT HOW MUCH I HATE THE TIM BURTON REMAKE AND HOW I CAN NOT FATHOM ANYBODY PREFERRING IT OVER THE ORIGINAL. THE JOKE BOMBED. THE END.
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volutetheswarth
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:54 pm 
 

BastardHead wrote:
Did everybody's panties really get in an uproar over that? Good lord the point was that the Tim Burton remake was shit. Y'all're a tough crowd.

Yeah, I thought their reaction was rather odd. Obviously just expressing you passion for the movie in a slightly exaggerated way but everyone went on the defensive of that girl, and from what I gathered you only disagreed with her and rolled your eyes. I personally didn't think it was funny (not my type of humour), I just read it and moved on, didn't think it warranted name calling or a collection of disapproving posts.

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Necroticism174
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:56 pm 
 

The internet white knights lurk the movie thread.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:59 pm 
 

This is how you're spending the 400th page of the thread, guys? Really?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:15 pm 
 

Necroticism174 wrote:
The internet white knights lurk the movie thread.

Yes because it couldn't simply be my reaction, I must have an ulterior motive. :roll:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:23 pm 
 

I was referring to what you said, not your reaction (which was the same as mine). I think that much was pretty clear.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:10 am 
 

Abominatrix wrote:
That's a great movie. it's very much like a stage play to my mind, which is I think a good part of what makes it such an electrifying watch...the performances are very well judged. I happened to watch this shortly after reading Crime and PUnishment though and I noticed many lines in the film are lifted verbatim from dialogue in the novel...I guess its'a fitting tribute, though.


Now that you mention it, yeah, it (Rope) does seem pretty much like a stage play and is apparently based on one. Well, Crime and Punishment I'm pretty sure was a major influence on it. I mean, the film (or play) was obviously inspired by Raskolnikov as well as Nietzsche.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:18 am 
 

BH: I'm of course aware that the story had a good helping of extra Maddox sauce. The core truth I could extract from it was not head-against-tit violence, but needless theatrics about a difference of opinion/a gap in pop cultural knowledge. Dunno, I've seen stuff like that before and it annoys me greatly when people get all worked up over these things. Hell, I am/was guilty of it myself sometimes and I often see how it irritates people, so I try not to act like a raging fanboy. But I'm more referring to the "OMG YOU'VE NEVER WATCHED/READ/HEARD XYZ?!?!?" side of things, doesn't seem to really apply here anyway. So I misinterpreted your story, maybe the delivery made some of the less obvious hyperbole seem part of the real thing. I wasn't there, but that's what I got from it.

:roll: @ people starting with the white knight crap. This reactionary bullcrap goes both ways, you know.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:28 am 
 

I personally feel she deserved a headbutt to the tit... the remake was that bad.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:10 pm 
 

Just rewatched Starship Troopers again. What an awesome fucking film (matter of fact, not debatable).
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:00 am 
 

'Marwencol' - be sure to visit the photo gallery on the movie's website. Available to stream on Netflix.

"After being beaten into a brain-damaging coma by five men outside a bar, Mark builds a 1/6th scale World War II-era town in his backyard. Mark populates the town he dubs 'Marwencol' with dolls representing his friends and family and creates life-like photographs detailing the town's many relationships and dramas. Playing in the town and photographing the action helps Mark to recover his hand-eye coordination and deal with the psychic wounds of the attack."

It's a really good documentary.

His right frontal lobe was damaged quite badly and the surgeons had to reconstruct his face. He looks pretty normal, considering. He was 38 years old. When his Medicaid ran out he was sent home from the hospital to be tended by his mom. His memory was completely gone and it took over five years to be acceptably socially functional again, having to start from scratch and relearn speech, motor skills, ability to write, etc. Once he was functional he moved into an apartment nearby, and since he was making progress and had enough capacities to fend for himself, essentially, he was able to invent his own therapies, since the beating hadn't robbed him of his imagination. He started building Marwencol out of random scraps of material and action figures so as to practice motor skills, but soon it became a world of its own, in a way.

The town of Marwencol has a bizarre transference that isn't art. He was a visual artist before the assault (a good one as you can see from the work in his journals kept before the attack) so there's an artist in him somewhere, but when he woke up from the coma he didn't know how to do any of that. I guess his nature had its way and he started the building of Marwencol to practice motor skills. But his thought process worked very differently after the damage, and his practical hobby eventually took on a cathartic nature. He'd make up stories and arrange hobby-shop dolls in realistic scenarios within his fantastic town, taking pictures to act them out. I suppose he started taking pictures of them because the memories which surfaced from his damaged brain did so in still shots. He took thousands of pictures, not one of them with the ironic or self-conscious tones a person with an intact brain would have difficulty avoiding.

The logic of his fantasy world is an unpredictable mixture of knowing the difference between the real world and the fantasy one, and knowing enough about both to work through things, but it's a fickle sense of reality; as if he's almost in two places at once. As time goes on, he becomes more and more functional, the worlds become more clearly separate, but his imagination is still his preferred world because he's irreparably damaged and unable to ultimately overcome the PTSD from the attack. He's safe in Marwencol.

The movie involves the town of Marwencol as much as it does Mark himself, and uses stop-motion-animations that Mark set up himself, telling personal stories along the way. The interaction of the sane and intact inhabitants of both his small town of Kensington, NY and the big city he eventually visits is a disorienting thing to see. By the time he gets to New York City, the story has been told so well that it's almost easy to forget it was ever an alien, disrupted, and adult/childish place, and it's almost hard to relate to the people who find him bewildering.

It's impossible to see the subtleties of brain damage on the outside unless they're starkly obvious. The function of the brain is an amazing thing, and Mark is an odd and endearing mixture of the man he was, perhaps more of the man he wished he'd always been. Kinder, sober, more at peace with himself, even though he's paranoid and arranging a private, vulnerable, and uniquely realistic fantasy world to help himself cope with his permanent trauma.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:23 pm 
 

oh my God Bringing out the Dead was fantastic - an excellent portrayal of madness, depression, detachment, wonderfully directed and shot and Nic Cage is fucking untouchable. Haters be damned this movie was a diamond.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:26 pm 
 

Yeah, I was talking about it a few pages back and nobody agreed. It's one of the best movies he's been in, with a really controlled performance and fever dream atmosphere.

Saw Heavy Metal (1981) drunk yesterday and it made zero sense.
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I think controlled fever dream can best describe Nic Cage as a whole.
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Platoon - I meant to watch this one a while ago, after I first saw Apocalypse Now. I wouldn't put this movie on quite the same level as that one, but it is nevertheless a very effective and depressing Vietnam film. It paints a deft portrait of the lows to which human beings can sink in such extraordinary circumstances, but it also shows some of the strength the human spirit can possess. Recommended.

The Game - Now here's a crazy movie! I had no idea what this was going to be about going in, so that made it even stranger. Basically, Michael Douglas's character takes part in a game orchestrated by a special corporation, a game that consumes his entire life and changes it in odd and increasingly terrifying ways. It gets to the point where you can't even tell if what's happening is part of the game. Personally, despite the duress he's under, I thought Douglas's character showed remarkable fortitude; I for one would have completely snapped, I'm sure of it. A very good psychological thriller, this.

Welcome to the Dollhouse - My first and, so far, only experience with Todd Solondz. This is a pretty damn twisted movie, if only because it shows how cruel and heartless both children and adults can be. To paint it in broad strokes, it's about the trials a physically unattractive 7th grade girl goes through on a daily basis, and the ways in which she has to cope with them (mostly alone, thanks to an uncaring family). It's all pretty grim, but there are enough moments of light to illuminate the moral this film's trying to convey. This was obviously a low-budget movie, but it's not amateurish. Recommended.

Ghost Town - A romantic comedy starring Ricky Gervais, of whom I've become quite a fan in the last year or so. In it, he plays a grumpy dentist who suffers a briefly fatal accident and is revived, only to find that he now has the ability to see and communicate with ghosts. Unfortunately, all of them want his help fixing the lives they left behind. This is a movie with a lot of heart, and Gervais is perfect for the role. If you enjoy his kind of humor, see this movie right away; but even if you're not so keen on him, I still think you should give it a shot if you find the premise remotely interesting. It might surprise you.

The Invention of Lying - Another Ricky Gervais movie, and another winner. As implied by the title, it's about a world which doesn't even have the concept of a lie... until Gervais's character throws a wrench in things. I found this to be a fascinating and hilarious analysis of the way deceit (both small and large) factors in to every facet of our daily lives, and the way we use it to shield ourselves from oft-painful truths. Highly recommended for both its humor and its philosophical probings.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:32 am 
 

Just saw "The Colony" opening weekend. Could have been so much better - a post-apocalypse, frozen underground settlement besieged by famine survivors gone feral and cannibalistic! But it sucks. Some nice ice-pick battle scenes. and a nasty little cannibal-butcher-shop thing, where they huddle together for body heat while eating each other at the same time... But you just don't give a crap about the characters. One guy narrates it off and on, he's dumb. Ending is a total waste. The colonists just wander off in the snow. Do they survive? Do I care???

Not to mention the impractical demographics of the colony - if you want to survive, there ought to be more than FOUR women :)

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Pain and Gain was amazing. Hilarious, subversive, brilliantly written. I haven't had this much fun at a movie in forever. Better than anything else Michael Bay has ever done. No weak links in the characters. They each have their own internal monologue, but it never gets tiresome.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:44 pm 
 

Necroticism174 wrote:
Michael Bay

That name strikes boredom into my heart.

Glad you liked it, though. I'll basically watch anything Mark Wahlberg's in at this point, regardless of the director.

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So you've doubtless seen the two James Gray films we was in, right? Those were the only two films I could tolerate Marky Mark in.
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Don't get me wrong, Michael Bay really sucks as a general rule (even if I DO like The Rock) but this movie was basically perfect for what it was.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:22 pm 
 

Nothing beats Fear. Unintentional comedy gold right there.

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Damnation Alley *

Released in 1977 by 20th Century Fox, this had almost twice the budget of Star Wars yet this film looks worse than a bad Roger Corman production. Didn't think that was possible. It's an unfaithful adaptation of some post-apocalyptic adventure novel about a band of USAF guys who trek through the title passage after some nukes dropped. Badly directed and with some absolutely horrible special effects along with the stupidest happy ending I've seen in a long time. The only things of interest is the high-tech RV and that a pre A-Team George Peppard and pre-Airwolf Jan Michael-Vincent are in the same movie but then again, not so much. Avoid.

Glengarry Glen Ross **1/2

This movie is nothing more than a filmed adaptation of David Mamet's play about a group of predatory real estate salesmen desperately vying for the best lead in a thinning market of suckers. I thought the film could have done more to upgrade the urban set for the film but the performances here are the real meat. Jack Lemmon, Al Pacino, Ed Harris, Kevin Spacey and Alan Arkin. How's that for heavy hitters showing off the acting chops? Pacino and Lemmon's performances are particularly delicious. I've never been a big Alec Baldwin fan but his "Coffee is for Closers" rant is priceless. Actually, everybody is awesome in this although I would say Harris is probably the weakest of the bunch.

The Shout ***1/2

I once long ago saw this movie presented on one of those local weekly late night horror movie of the week features but it's not at all a horror film but rather a deeply psychological drama in the vein of Polanski's Cul-De-Sac. Set in rural Devon, a mental patient (Alan Bates) weaves his tale to a scorekeeper(Tim Curry)about the intrusive sexual affair he had with the young couple (John Hurt and Susannah York) in attendance at the sunny cricket match for which the story is framed around. Is the man's tale to be believed or his he just another resident loon? That question will elicit much discussion about the device of unreliable narrator afterwards. A very good piece of intellectual 70's cinema.

Demoni 2 *1/2

I'm not sure if I like this better than the original which was fun for what it was: a totally brainless grindhouse romp for gorehounds. It was basically like Evil Dead but set in a movie theater. This sequel is very much a retread of its predecessor except it takes place in a swanky apartment high rise which I think offers more visual variety. It has slightly more visual panache too as I liked how the lighting and angles were used to capture the action in that setting but that makes it nothing more than a polished turd because the filmmakers do little that is competent. There's a slight attempt at plot this time around but it's completely incoherent compared to the first film only because the first one had no plot to begin with. 2 is slightly less gory too. I do love the awesome 80's atmosphere and cheesiness of it all. Not quite in the "so-bad-it's good" category but damn close.

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:47 am 
 

So I just watched Lost in Translation. Why the hell was this pretentious movie so critically acclaimed? Basically nothing happened. Two angsty, rich, self-absorbed Americans mope around for a while, meet each other and hang out, then feel less angsty. They don't actually DO anything to be less angsty, they're still just as directionless and self-absorbed as before, but they FEEL BETTER. There's no conflict, no resolution, no nothing. Fucking nothing happens. It's one of those irritatingly vague movies where people can read all sorts of bullcrap into it if they try, but at the end of the day I just found it incredibly shallow and wanting.
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I really like Lost in Translation. I think the whole point is that both characters felt alienated by their regular lives and are living escapist lives in Japan, which is a place where Americans would feel alienated. They hang out together and are drawn together because of the simple bond of both being misfits in a strange place, but ultimately they both realize that, despite whatever fun they had together, their problems are real and building a friendship based on their similar circumstances isn't really a replacement for getting their shit together in their respective lives.

EDIT: I also liked that, despite the revelation I just mentioned, there *is* no resolution or real character growth or development. Life isn't always full of epiphanies that lead to dramatic character growth because people are resistant to change. The epiphany happens but whether or not it has any lasting impact on the characters' lives is an open-ended question. It's not really super deep or anything, it's just a story that I think does a pretty decent job of capturing how people might react to things emotionally in the real world, even if the circumstances and characters are sort of unusual.
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 12:28 pm 
 

Watched The Paperboy last night... which I think I hated but I can't even decide... I think I just don't care enough about it to even form an opinion. It ended and I asked myself... what the fuck was that even about? The initial premise is pretty straight forward "A reporter returns to his Florida hometown to investigate a case involving a death row inmate." but then it just kinda meanders around for a while before getting burly and somewhat interesting at the end. None of the plot points or anything that really happens in the movie are even remotely fleshed out. McConaghey plays a southern dude like always, Efron is some sexually frustrated turd, Kidman is a wacky middle aged lady obsessed with prison cock... I think Cusack was my favorite part... he was definitely my favorite part actually, playing the "death row inmate" and comes off genuinely fucked. I hate Nicole Kidman but I won't deny watching her pretend to blow Cusack and get off while just staring at him from across the room was entertaining.
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 1:13 pm 
 

Lost in Translation is one of my favorite movies. I just love the characters and the acting - it's like a Fitzgerald/Hemingway sort of story where not a lot happens but it's still very watchable and likable just based on the characters. I can see why people don't like it, but I always enjoy it every time I turn it on, and like I said, just Murray and Johansson's acting and characters really make the film great to me. It's just about two people meeting by chance and affecting each others' lives. The directing is also great and just keeps me hooked for the whole thing, the pacing is wonderful and basically what I'm trying to say is - I always enjoy every second of it. I think it's a great display of humanity and a very well done command of fictional characterization.
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 2:26 pm 
 

iamntbatman wrote:
EDIT: I also liked that, despite the revelation I just mentioned, there *is* no resolution or real character growth or development. Life isn't always full of epiphanies that lead to dramatic character growth because people are resistant to change. The epiphany happens but whether or not it has any lasting impact on the characters' lives is an open-ended question. It's not really super deep or anything, it's just a story that I think does a pretty decent job of capturing how people might react to things emotionally in the real world, even if the circumstances and characters are sort of unusual.

Sure life isn't always full of drama, that's why we watch movies. Real life is fucking boring. I did think the acting was very good, but I was just really bored with how little happened. I really think it would have been better if Scarjo's character ended up leaving her husband or something. One of the main points of fiction is to distill life down to those important moments and skip over the boring parts - people spend a lot of time in the bathroom too, does that mean watching actors crap for 10 minutes every movie would be good because it's realistic?

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Lost in Translation is one of my favorite movies. I just love the characters and the acting - it's like a Fitzgerald/Hemingway sort of story where not a lot happens but it's still very watchable and likable just based on the characters.

Hemingway? Tons happens in every Hemingway story I've read. People die, fish die, there's drama coming out of everyone's asses.
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 2:49 pm 
 

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So you've doubtless seen the two James Gray films we was in, right? Those were the only two films I could tolerate Marky Mark in.

Let me rephrase. I don't go out of my way for him, and James Gray rings no bells, but I'd watch Pain & Gain despite it being a Michael Bay .. *shudder* .. feature.


[+} In Lost in Translation, one of the things the characters have in common is that they're both shallow losers. Not what I would call a "charismatic premise". One's a washed up has-been, one's only beginning to suck at life (but, hey, at least her boyfriend sucks worse, right?). They couldn't be plucky if they tried (see karaoke scene). So .. no, not an inspiring story, so much as it's a fuzzy, comfortably pervy survey of first world problems. I haven't seen it in a long time, and at the time I was pretty much enthralled, the boobs and pretty convincing me it was better than it is. I'm not so much less weak as more bitter nowadays, so I don't know how Lost in Translation would hold up. It's sweet, and I can't really imagine outright hating it, but I'll bet the swoon effect will have waned.

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