Maybe I'm doing this wrong, but I want to find something at least core influenced that's actually good.
I can dig stuff like Allegaeon, Augury, Beyond Creation, Cattle Decapitation Dying Fetus, later The Faceless, Gorod, Pathology, Suffocation and such, but not much else considered core (aside from some grind) really did much other than annoy the shit out of me with their predictability.
Is there other core music out there that's good?

I imagine this might be closed... we have a Metalcore/Deathcore general thread.

That said:

Ichor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QahNuZ4IQGM

The Red Shore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9en1plZNKI

Biolich: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSfKSYZrwCs
I'll rec this fucking band to anybody.

Despised Icon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPEASdfeCz4

Buried Inside: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg4vWwE5nj8

Enjoy.

That thread is full of shit though.
I've been told Despised Icon sucks ass though.
Eh, I pretty much thought these were okay, Despised Icon I was right about being shitty.

Not to sound really conceited, but I'm typically not that into "core" stuff, yet happen to be one of two singers, as well as a lead songwriter in a deathcore band, and I think our stuff is pretty alright
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WthkKfXs ... g&index=11

Vildhjarta are also excellent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvRoIwLWvCk

War From a Harlot's Mout's latest is interesting, it's got a pretty heavy Portal influence in there. Think Abyssal with breakdowns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU3yPohXDN4

Try Cro-Mags' "Best Wishes". It's borderline thrash metal old school style 'metalcore'.

In my time, I've got into a plethora of great deathcore/metalcore bands. I've got many more if you want, but here's a handful:

After the Burial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-8QquRFpMc

All Shall Perish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ5-NbE09vo

As Blood Runs Black

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1rJSRRvunk

As I Lay Dying

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh-RgX_2U9w

Born of Osiris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybouDbyuTok

By Blood and Iron

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAuaQkKiXCQ

I'm not sure if you'll like everything in there, but from what you do like I could recommend you similar bands.

No one's mentioned Converge? Definitely recommended if you like your metalcore abrasive and heavy as hell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qrq4d7UkwdY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIB9Cai5kZ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sq8ZlyvH6E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hcUxV7BmSc

Oh duh, you're casusluciferi from tumblr. That explains so much. None of the bands you've listed are actually deathcore you know? Or have any lasting metalcore influence beyond what many metal bands have had since the early 2000s (hoarser vocals, chuggier riffs, etc). They're pretty much all technical death metal.

So I guess you'd like technical deathcore like The Zenith Passage, After the Burial, the new Rings of Saturn album, Aegaeon, Conducting From the Grave, Fallujah, Infant Annihilator, Veil of Maya, etc. But seriously, if you can't even get into Despised Icon (who are basically a riff salad tech death band at heart) there isn't much hope for you.

EDIT: here's a good find, Bloodshot Dawn. A technical/melodic death metal band with a tiny amount of metalcore influence, just like the stuff you listened in the OP.
http://youtu.be/2iD6UfeedK0

The only thing I liked of any of those was Bloodshot Dawn, whom I love.
The rest was honestly pretty much asinine and generic, which is exactly the opposite of what I'm looking for here.
Core INFLUENCED, you dig?
I don't want straight up core, I want shit with core influence that doesn't consume what musical traces there could have been.

Assuming you listened to all the links above, I don't think this genre was really cut out for you, friend. ;p

That's why I'm looking for core influenced shit at least, because all of those bands I listed with core influence kick some serious ass.

Someone here is confusing The Red Shore with The Red Chord ;P

It would be helpful if you could point out what it is exactly that you like about the bands you mentioned (vocals, riffing style, song structure) so we have more information to go on. Otherwise it's too much of a guessing game.


This is also very subjective and vague...

I guess what I like is the breakdowns and rarely the riffing style, but I despise core vocals to hell and I don't like a predictable song structure that core music is nearly obligated to have.
Another note I must make about breakdowns is that there's a huge difference between the typical core breakdowns and good breakdowns, the main difference being that its not just a syncopated note and quick tapping flair with some vocals, and instead are actual riffs, take Suffocation, Dying Fetus and Defeated Sanity for example in that regard. Another important aspect of those breakdowns is being creative about their placement.
As far as the type of riffing I like, there's a ton of great core riffs on The Aura and in Gorod's shit, as well as in Augury's, like the almost thrashy riffs.
Gremlin screams, even in small doses like Beyond Creation make me want to kill myself, and I'm not a fan of the cheesy, not-in-the-slightest heavy production I hear in bands like Thy Art Is Murder. Oh, and don't let me forget, bass drops are cool but not every fucking time there's a breakdown like they do.

Huh. I was skeptical going into this, based on your description, but I can actually kind of hear it a bit here.

Also, there is no -core influence in seven of those nine bands you mentioned. Beyond Creation have hardcore influence now, WTF?

They actually do, sir.
I'm not trying to insult them by saying that, so please don't take it that way, but they do.
Allegaeon's second album has loads of metalcore riffs and melodies, Augury does deathcore chugs all over the place, Cattle Decap is deathgrind, plain and simple, they do breakdowns in every other song practically now, as does Dying Fetus, The Faceless has been deathcore from the very beginning, only dropping it for prog death on Autotheism, Gorod does chug riffs as well, and both Suffo and Pathology are obviously grind influenced.
Really though guys, that's not a bad thing at all, in fact Suffo and Beyond Creation are some of my favorite bands ever.

I'm not trying to imply that it's a bad thing (hell, I love me some deathcore every now and then, I'm not afraid of it), but chugging =/= -core influence. Furthermore, there are metalcore-styled breakdowns and then there are metal breakdowns which are basically just a slowed-down section in a song, and that's what most of these bands (particularly the more progressively-minded ones that you cite) use. Suffocation and Dying Fetus, in particular, don't use metalcore or deathcore, but beatdown hardcore if anything. I'm too tired to articulate my point efficiently, but yeah, point is that slow parts don't automatically correspond to metalcore influence.

It's the type of chugging riffs that are metalcore influenced, and yes, I know there is a difference between core breakdowns and DM breakdowns, I've brought it up in previous posts.
This is getting off-topic, and I don't want to argue with you, so if you wouldn't mind I would like to continue with submissions.

Heartily recommend Vale of Pnath http://willowtip.bandcamp.com/album/the-prodigal-empire

Check out Thy Art Is Murder on album The Adversary. Particulary songs Engineering the Antichrist and Laceration Penetration. Pretty much the best deathcore i have heard.

I already have specifically mentioned how asinine they are.
The Prodigal Empire was cool, but hardly core at all. Great album though, now on my itunes.

Viatrophy may be your thing, if you can get past the vocals. I'll check out some of the other bands mentioned in this thread at a later time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkNmHp4dSI4

Viatrophy is definitely not my thing. Instrumentally they were decent, but other than that it was a bit obnoxious.

I think by DM breakdowns you mean "slams". If so maybe try Animosity. Their vocalist has the same spastic vocal range as Lord Worm of Cryptopsy and they incorporate slowed down chuggs which are labeled as "slams". Its pretty debatable on whether or not they're Deathcore though. If you ask me they're more DM then core.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvMplYSUCWY

Also Dyscarnate. Now here the vocals are kind of like ones you would hear in Deathcore band. They're pretty groovy but can get boring at times. However they're still a very young band with huge potential.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrYraHEBgYY

There's a difference between DM breaks and slams, slams are usually mid-tempo as opposed to being slow.
I really liked Dyscarnate was pretty cool, but Animosity just sounded like by-the-book deathcore.

The only deathcore that I can listen to is All Shall Perish - Hate.Malice.Revenge and The Price Of Existence.

OP, why are you looking for some deathcore? I think ive seen you post on how much you hate anything resembling "core" influence at least 15 times in these threads haha. Not talking shit- just wondering since you seem to loathe anything to do with it?

Anyways, check out Vomit The Soul- Apostles of Inexpression, most would lump them into the bdm category, but with really nice production, heavy breaks and slams and some technicality, i think might be up your ally

I've also been bigging bands like these, pretty similar to Faceless which you seem to be into...
Fallujah- Technical, atmospheric DM, with a few flairs of deathcore
Abiotic- Same as above
The Zenith Passage- Same as above

I'm trying to find bands that take deathcore and do it the way I would have done it, basically taking death metal but adding breakdowns. Not single note chugs, actual riffs and shit. I liked The Zenith Passage, but I don't like Fallujah at all, by the way I only liked The Faceless' most recent album. I guess the conclusion I've come to is that no band that is actually considered core is like that, aside from grind, which I do like.
What I don't like about core bands is that its all pop. It's like taking DM and making it easily digestable. I guess what it dumbs down to is that I'm looking for core influence, not full-on core.

Can't help you on the deathcore front, but on the general -core front:

Arkangel
The Secret
Starkweather
Acme
Catharsis
Buried Inside
Human Demise
Trap Them
Burst

None of them are what I'm looking for.
Like I said earlier, I don't want straight up core music.

Ahhh, what about Through the Eyes of the Dead- Scars of Ages EP. It's alot different then their newer more melodic death sound, which you may like as well.

Premonitions of War- Left in Kowloon- Heavy heavy grind/ hardcore/ sludge/ death metal

Martyr A.D.- the human condition in twelve fractions- Not really death metal influenced metalcore... I actually can't describe this record, its really good though

Quit recommending stupid shit.

Quit saying stupid shit or I'm gonna ban you. Understood?

Excuse me for wanting people to read the previous posts before making a recommendation that's everything I've already bashed.
But whatever, go ahead and abuse your power.

Frankly, I don't think you're going to find what you're looking for. You seem to have a horribly confused idea of what constitutes metalcore, deathcore, and death metal, so whenever anyone recommends you something that actually sounds like what you're describing you end up hating it. Try figuring out what the terms mean before you use them in your recommendation threads.

I actually do know what these things mean guy, all I'm looking for is shit that's not so gratuitously core, instead things that are more or less core influenced, like Beyond Creation and Cattle Decap.
What it really comes down to is that the musicians in the band should know how to make competent music, not pop trash with some pointless noodling.
What so many of these recommendations are are just that, often being a saddening waste of talent.

Dude, that doesn't make sense.

What the fuck do you think "core" means?

Stemming from hardcore punk.
What doesn't make sense exactly?
I really don't want your shit on this thread, so kindly leave after you're done.

I could sum up most of the bands you listed as "progressive/technical death metal", so why didn't you just say exactly that from the get-go? Why start bringing up the fact that they're partially influenced by metalcore or deathcore when (a) no one with ears can actually fucking hear that, and (b) you allegedly despise -core influences anyway? Obscura, for example, sound a lot like Beyond Creation, despite being about as -core-influenced as fucking Radiohead, and yet you would have been recommended them right away if you hadn't felt the need to turn your thread into some retarded-as-fuck anti-core tirade that mentioned -core influence as if that was what you were seeking. From the way you classify these bands, you make it sound as if this influence is more-or-less inherently omnipresent in these styles of music regardless of the individual band in question, so you could have bypassed that descriptor entirely.

It's like if I thought (via some magically inherited breed of imbecility) that all doom metal featured hardcore vocals, not because I'd been listening to weird doom metal but because I had no idea what hardcore vocals are. If I open a thread here and say I want "doom metal", which I implicitly understand to have hardcore vocals as part of the genre, people are going to give me stuff like Candlemass and Solitude Aeternus and I'm going to walk away happy thinking that Candlemass have the hardcore vocals I'm looking for. But if I feel the need to clarify what the genre is made of and I'm wrong, and I say I want "doom metal with hardcore vocals", then people are probably going to recommend me something which sounds like sludge metal, even though that's not what I want. And I'll be pissed about it and throw a fit and claim no one understands what the fuck I'm talking about, when really it's my own fault. In the same way, you're the only person to blame here.

Do you see my point? Learn what the terms you're using actually mean before you sprinkle them willy-nilly over everything. People can't be expected to all share your magical Bizarro perception of genres and know exactly what you mean when you say you want "metalcore" if you don't mean metalcore in the way it's common and popularly used. Make less ignorant OPs - or at least keep them as vague as possible if you don't have fuck's worth of a clue what you're talking about - and maybe then you'll get helpful responses, instead of confused and vague recommendations and people who post in your thread calling you an idiot instead of giving you bands.