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iloveblackmetal
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:10 pm 
 

lol nobody here has a physical disability :/

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Obfuscation
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:50 pm 
 

Regarding physical disablity -

I was born with Spina Bifida and hydrocephalus and thus have been
in a wheelchair my whole life. Both of them have had their challenges
I've had countless surgeries during my childhood to help correct
some of my issues.

At the same time I feel like I'm incredibly lucky...I've not had
too many issues with my hydrocephalus. I've only had to undergo
a shunt replacement twice which is pretty good for almost 30
years old.

I think I'll leave it there so this doesn't end up as one huge rambling post
but if anyone wants me to elaborate on anything I'll do my best.

And also I've enjoyed reading this and it's pretty cool to see everyone
offering insight and just generally being supportive. :thumbsup:

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SatanicPotato
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:02 am 
 

MikeyC wrote:
SatanicPotato wrote:
thank you very much i have good moments and i have bad moments the difference is my life isnt one constant bad time like it used to be, i do suffer both anxiety, depression and negative thoughts though the negative thoughts are brought on by depression and social anxiety but its all good way better than things used to be and thank you hope things get better for you

fighting depression and anxiety can be really frustrating i have done it since i was about 6 years old and it just gets frustrating fighting the same thing over and over but it made me a stronger person and i know i can rid myself of depression so things can get better and there are positives also i tried a bit of CBT and self help tapes(listened to one with a ex of sorts in her car) and currently speaking ot a psychologist so trying to attack depression in as many ways as i can

thank you something i didnt know at the time but i was actually speaking in front of one of my childhood sporting hero's at the time but lucky i was unaware because i doubt i could have done it then but later i was taking the train there was an attractive girl that sat next to me and there were many seats free but she sat next to me and i froze and couldn’t speak to her so i could speak in front of 300 people but not to one girl i love learning about anything to do with the brain its fascinating stuff and imo its very rewarding to help others but that kinda job would be very draining at times so i'll see what happens

the human mind is very strong so i do believe most people can overcome any mental illness though its never easy

There's good moments...but as you're probably aware, they can be whisked away by bad moments in an instant. CBT, therapy, and so on are great ways to rid yourself of social anxiety and depression.

You've been fighting depression longer than I have. Mine started at the age of 14, so I've been fighting it for nearly 13 years now, which is still a long time, even though it's nothing compared to you.

It's truly amazing how the human mind functions: you can talk in front of 300 people, but one girl is impossible because there's more emotion involved. A job of a psychologist would be draining, but I think I still would want to have a go.

that is very true bad moments can come extremely fast, i am in an area that there is only 2 ways to get out of the area 2 bridges and sometime last year there was a situation where i wont go into much detail about but i needed to leave someone at a time when i really wanted to stay with them otherwise i would have been cut off from my home and its started raining a lot atm and its just triggering those memories of having to leave that person when i really didnt want to so its weird how something can trigger memories like that, 13 years is a massive length of time though its hard to fight with but well worth it

and i agree it was hard talking infront of 300 people but terrifying to speak to one girl...........girls are terrifying :d

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:21 am 
 

Obfuscation wrote:
I think I'll leave it there so this doesn't end up as one huge rambling post
but if anyone wants me to elaborate on anything I'll do my best.


I've got a question, I try and use mind techniques I've read about to get perspective on things and stay positive when I start thinking too much - what do you do? can you share ways you've found help you? Your post reads so positive and you sound like you take everything in your stride, I think I could learn much from someone like you.

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Twin_guitar_attack
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:25 am 
 

I haven't been to a Doctor in at least 3 years, and probably longer since then. I don't have a mental illness or anything close, so this is regarding the medication part. I've been suffering from headaches since the age of 10. The regularity of them seems to be different all the time, but at certain points I was getting awful headaches every single day. Last few weeks I've been fine, but over christmas I had 4-5 a week the whole time I was back. It's not as bad as migraines (I tend to get them every other month now, used to be every other week), with the nausea, and the intolerance to light, but enough that I sometimes feel too ill to go about my day to day life of university or work properly and carry out tasks as well as I want. Some days all I do is lie in bed with no light.

It's more annoying than a completely debilitating problem, but a few years ago it would make me miss school now and again through them, and the pain isn't nice to have all the time. Naturally since the age of 11 I had been going to doctors, and they put me on all kinds of different medication for it, and it mostly just fucked me up. After giving me different things to take when I got headaches (which was stupid if it was something I was getting every day) I tried three different preventative medications for headaches and migraines, and all it did was make me really drowsy and like a zombie. I just couldn't concentrate on anything, didn't bother socialising with my friends. Thing is they didn't even work. I think for each one I just took myself off of them after about a month, maybe 2 months for the first type. Even if it had started to work and I stopped getting ill, I don't think it would have been worth the zombieness.

After the three types of preventer, each of which fucked me up, they decided to try accupuncture. That didn't work either, maybe because I was so sceptical of it. So after a few months of that, they run out of ideas, and decided to send me for an MRI scan to check I didn't have something seriously wrong with my brain. I think I was 16 at the time, so I was scared as fuck.

Anyway, that came back showing nothing wrong, and after saying that, the doctor wanted to put me back on some different preventers, and I had a go at him saying I didn't want to be on more drugs. My mum suggested taking me for an allergy test, and certain things showed up that were potential triggers for illness. I've given up dairy now, and I reduce the amount of sweets I eat (food colourings do it) and the amount I get headaches has reduced dramatically, it's still a problem sometimes, but a much more manageable one, which comes from something simple I would thing Doctors would think of before just pumping you full of medicine.

Basically I still trust medical science, and if I had a really bad problem I'd go back, but they are so quick to put you on medication regardless of the side-effects, that I just don't go to the doctor anymore for anything that bothers me.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:43 pm 
 

i'v had lower back problems for years. doctors seem to just throw drugs at me and send me to physio's osteo's and everything, which helped in the short term but never cured me.
Then i started going to kick boxing working on my abs and stuff, and my back then started to gradually get better. I also always had a sore neck that gave me headaches ,then one day we were doing heaps of grappling in kick boxing, just using all those neck muscles almost cured my neck instantly.

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Jophelerx
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:38 pm 
 

I've struggled with depression and anxiety for the last three or four years, I've been on several different medications in that time. I can't say I've had a lot of problems with SSRI's, but neither have they been terribly helpful. I currently take 20 mg of Paxil/day, and I'm still pretty depressed. I need to talk to my doctor again soon, I'm also on Risperdal and Buspirone, I also recently tried Clonazepam and I'm not sure if that really helped or not; I went off it because I was getting more depressed, but I've been back on Buspirone for a week now and haven't been any less depressed. My doctor is out of the country right now, but when he gets back I'll need to talk to him. It's been a real struggle this semester, and I'm not entirely sure what the cause is, as I was doing a lot better last semester. Hopefully I can get on a combo/dosage that works better for me.

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Xeogred
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:37 pm 
 

693 wrote:
I know that this question is of personal opinion, but is there any anti-depressants that are best avoided?

Going back to this, I think just stick to the SSRI's if you can. The MAO's and other older types definitely sound a bit weirder from the things I've read and heard.

@Twin_guitar_attack: What's your vision like? I've suffered from constant headaches myself especially after a car wreck several years ago and I've had chronic neck issues. Last year though my doctor finally suggested I get my vision checked out, turns out I was very slightly near sighted... enough to try out glasses and now that I've been using them for a few weeks now, my headaches have decreased a huge amount. It's definitely funky how they tie in. If you have never had vision care, might be worth getting them checked.

That's another huge battle I've struggled with over the years now, my neck pain. I think I finally hit a wall and have come to the conclusion that chiropractic treatment over the last 4-5 years (off and on), has only made it worse. What pisses me off most is how much money I put into this last year and even had X-Rays done... by a kid younger than me, and they took them when I was sitting down. It was so unprofessional and they didn't really see anything. So, I get X-Rays taken again a few weeks ago at my regular doctor, with far superior equipment... and you'd have to blind to not see the issue. In all of the shots it was clear as day that my neck was completely straight, but my spine wasn't at all. It was pretty much straight up disturbing how curved it's become. So my doctor put me on some anti-inflammatory meds and muscle relaxants for bed, and I gotta say this stuff is really helping a lot so far. It just really bothers me, to wake up with these meds and feel ... "normal", I basically forgot how that felt over the years, even with the adjustments, yoga, memory foam bed stuff, etc. It doesn't help that I do pharmacy tech stuff for 10 hours a day, so I'm on my feet and always looking down. Aggravates the neck I'm sure, but at least I'm finally getting answers and will probably get an MRI done soon, and from there my doctor has a lot of ideas. I definitely don't want to just be on meds for this, so hopefully some injections, physical therapy, etc, can help repair things and it's not too late... I'm basically afraid of pinched nerves or probably some disc problems. But man I'm beating myself up lately wishing I went to my doctor first early last year, and not a chiropractor.

So yeah hear it from me, if you've got neck issues please seek alternatives other than chiropractic care. That stuff is probably fine for your back and stuff, but your spine? Probably not at all. I know my mom got adjusted once and later found out if she had been cracked incorrectly it could have paralyzed her or something, and now she suffers from chronic disc pain as well. I just hope it's not too late for me, I'd love to no longer feel like a rusty robot.

Also started the adderall XR over the weekend... so far I actually think I hate it, lol. Less side effects than the normal stuff, but it's really making me feel extremely dull most of the time and I don't notice it lasting any longer than regular adderall. I might ask my doctor if I can try out the name brand regular sometime or something.

It's been one hell of an utmost battle staying motivated to keep my job over the last year and going on two now. There is so much drama, I get no happiness or accomplishment out of it at all, but yeah it's really times like this I have to slap myself and be thankful for insurance. So I figure I have the money and insurance to get my health back on track, time to do everything now and be aggressive with it while I can.

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bloodycumshit
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:55 am 
 

Jophelerx wrote:
I've struggled with depression and anxiety for the last three or four years, I've been on several different medications in that time. I can't say I've had a lot of problems with SSRI's, but neither have they been terribly helpful. I currently take 20 mg of Paxil/day, and I'm still pretty depressed. I need to talk to my doctor again soon, I'm also on Risperdal and Buspirone, I also recently tried Clonazepam and I'm not sure if that really helped or not; I went off it because I was getting more depressed, but I've been back on Buspirone for a week now and haven't been any less depressed. My doctor is out of the country right now, but when he gets back I'll need to talk to him. It's been a real struggle this semester, and I'm not entirely sure what the cause is, as I was doing a lot better last semester. Hopefully I can get on a combo/dosage that works better for me.


have you tried psychology? pill's aren't the final answer

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Marag
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:46 am 
 

Jophelerx wrote:
I also recently tried Clonazepam and I'm not sure if that really helped or not; I went off it because I was getting more depressed

Clozanepam isn't used to treat depression as far I know, I take it for anxiety, and so do everyone else I know who uses it.

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Obfuscation
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:01 pm 
 

Quote:
I've got a question, I try and use mind techniques I've read about to get perspective on things and stay positive when I start thinking too much - what do you do? can you share ways you've found help you? Your post reads so positive and you sound like you take everything in your stride, I think I could learn much from someone like you.


Appreciate the kinds words. Honestly, it's just been age, experience and interaction with other people. All of those things. Finally getting out on my own was a huge deal. The rough patches
are still there though both mentally and physically and I don't feel like I deal with them any better than anybody else here.

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Byrain
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:21 pm 
 

Marag wrote:
Jophelerx wrote:
I also recently tried Clonazepam and I'm not sure if that really helped or not; I went off it because I was getting more depressed

Clozanepam isn't used to treat depression as far I know, I take it for anxiety, and so do everyone else I know who uses it.


Lol, you do realize clonazepam and other benzos are highly addictive and can kill from withdrawals? Not to mention they are pretty shitty anxiety medications...

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:42 pm 
 

Byrain wrote:

Lol, you do realize clonazepam and other benzos are highly addictive and can kill from withdrawals? Not to mention they are pretty shitty anxiety medications...

It was prescripted by my doctor

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:07 pm 
 

Everyone is different and again I've been on xanax myself over the last two years, but yeah I'd recommend if you have to use benzos are want too, only approach them as a short temporary fix with other plans ahead. I don't know how the other benzos are outside of the xanax, but since I've been off and on I can confirm the withdrawals are pretty fucked up. All these other meds, SSRI's, etc, were never as extreme as dropping xanax was for me.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:37 pm 
 

I barely use it nowadays, it's only a temporary measure. Never had any problems with addictions or with withdrawls.

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bloodycumshit
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:57 am 
 

Marag wrote:
Byrain wrote:

It was prescripted by my doctor


LOL ,i was prescribed them by my doctor too and i'm an alcoholic who get's addicted to anything!

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Twin_guitar_attack
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:56 am 
 

Xeogred wrote:

@Twin_guitar_attack: What's your vision like? I've suffered from constant headaches myself especially after a car wreck several years ago and I've had chronic neck issues. Last year though my doctor finally suggested I get my vision checked out, turns out I was very slightly near sighted... enough to try out glasses and now that I've been using them for a few weeks now, my headaches have decreased a huge amount. It's definitely funky how they tie in. If you have never had vision care, might be worth getting them checked.




I've worn glasses since I was 7, though it's been over 2 years now since I last went to an Optician. Atm I can't afford a sight test and new glasses, so I want to hold off on it until I'm back in work. But it's been a problem for half my life now, and I've been wearing glasses all that time, so doubt it's that. Woke up with one today, and no idea as to why. I'm not sure if it would be a reason but getting either drunk or high the last 7 nights in a row probably didn't help.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:57 pm 
 

Marag wrote:
Byrain wrote:

Lol, you do realize clonazepam and other benzos are highly addictive and can kill from withdrawals? Not to mention they are pretty shitty anxiety medications...

It was prescripted by my doctor


You can thank big pharma for promoting them to countless doctors, but yea, I never had any addiction problems with them either when I was prescribed them, but I don’t really like downers. Medically, I think they are only useful once in a blue moon for panic attacks assuming the prospect of them doesn't worsen the situation. For regular anxiety, they're terrible and any doctor that prescribes them as such should feel bad about themselves....

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:19 pm 
 

Medically, I think they are only useful once in a blue moon for panic attacks [/quote]
That's how I use them.

I don't know about where you people live, Clonazepam is the most abused medicine here in my country, and most get it without (real)prescription. That's why it's different getting it from a doctor and just using it because my life is shit and I want to feel numb for the rest of the day.

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Flesh_Bag
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:16 am 
 

hi guys, so I went to the doctor and he gave me some lexapro which is a ssri, I have to say so far things are VERY weird but the side effects seem to be fading away slowly.

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bloodycumshit
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:40 am 
 

Flesh_Bag wrote:
hi guys, so I went to the doctor and he gave me some lexapro which is a ssri, I have to say so far things are VERY weird but the side effects seem to be fading away slowly.


yeah just keep taking them, they usually take about 6 - 8 weeks before they work properly and all the weird side effects can go away.Remember if there are some bad side effects ya cant live with that wont go away, there's always other pills to try.

i'v just started reading this book that i would recommend to anyone...kind of like having a psychology session without having to go see someone each chapter i read

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:42 pm 
 

My girlfriend's got a whole bunch of mental disorders, she's on something 49 pills a week for all of them. The only disability I've got is flat feet.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:46 am 
 

Ok, so this topic has been inactive for over 2 years now, and considering how many people can come and go in as little as a couple of months, I wanted to revive this topic with a question.

When your disability, regardless of mental or physical, starts getting the best of you and you can't seem to fight it off with will or medication, how do you cope with what you are experiencing? How do you tell yourself to keep going, or it'll be over soon? How do you avoid letting yourself sink to the point that getting back up doesn't feel like it's worth the effort?

I have bipolar disorder, and I've found that martial arts is a good way to cope with both faces of the disease. During a stage of mania, it helps to focus the mind on something I enjoy when my mind races and floods itself with useless thought content and strange paranoia. It also gives me something to channel that hyperactive energy into. And for the depressive stages, it revives the energy that clinical depression seems to choke out and ultimately kill off for weeks, maybe months at a time, and also let's me feel like I have a little self-worth when it's especially overwhelming (which I'll leave at that to avoid some useless sob story).

I fully understand that not every illness or disability is the same experience for the next person down the line, and that not everyone has the same experience. So I'd (hopefully) like to open up some more conversation about personal stories of yourselves or your friends or relatives going through some shtuff, and how you and your family handle it.
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Not a mental illness, but I'd be interested to know if anyone else has epilepsy here. I've been changing my anticonvulsant for the last 8 years trying to find the right onw and although there are none with no side effects, I've found one which is at least bearable. I'd still do anything to be free from taking a pill twice a day, and I believe it's possible (something which I've discovered that doctors don't). I've tried just about everything from meditation and relaxation techniques, strange diets and fasting, to weird mystical shit. I won't consider brain surgery though, I think it's barbaric.

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I have 3 mental illnesses: ADHD, PDD-NOS and OCD, and they should all suck, but I think they don't. Some are pretty scary to have, but sometimes it's cool to compare your own ways to "normal" people's ways and see how different your approach is to achieve the same thing.

Anyone else here thinks that his/hers illness(es) surely has its upsides? I actually think my disorders make me a better and more caring/loving person because I have so many (unusual) ideas on friendship, social life and the like, but my friends surely seem to like 'em.
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Expedience wrote:
and I believe it's possible (something which I've discovered that doctors don't).


Obviously I should preface this by saying that I'm not a medical professional in any capacity, but here goes. I once dated a girl who, while never diagnosed with epilepsy (as far as I know), suffered from sometimes pretty significant full-body "twitches" that she was utterly not in control of in any capacity. If she was drinking a glass of water, she'd just shake and drop it or it would fly out of her hand, for example. I always got worried that this would happen to her while she was driving or something, but she refused to look into it further (I think, due to her own medical knowledge, that she was worried that it was a symptom of some more serious neurological condition that she would rather be in the dark about). Anyway, she could actually feel these "twitches" coming and could sometimes prepare herself for them, but what's more she could also avoid them altogether through mental discipline: she never, ever got them during times of serious mental concentration, such as during a test, playing sports, during sex, etc. Only ever happened when her mind wandered.

So, if that's even similarly related, I guess it could be possible to maybe try to put yourself in a continuous mental state where the seizures just don't happen? That sounds utterly exhausting, though.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:44 am 
 

Yes, I've heard similar stories. Neil Young claimed to have cured his epilepsy through the power of the mind or something, but it isn't easy to put something that vague into practice. Anyway, mine are mostly nocturnal and it's a bit hard to practice mind-focus while asleep.

LeMiserable wrote:
Anyone else here thinks that his/hers illness(es) surely has its upsides? I actually think my disorders make me a better and more caring/loving person because I have so many (unusual) ideas on friendship, social life and the like, but my friends surely seem to like 'em.


Well, the list of famous epileptics in history is pretty impressive so I can fool myself into believing I'm part of a gifted clique: http://www.disabled-world.com/artman/pu ... mous.shtml
I think most illnesses have upsides. There's something very metal about getting to know pain and dark mental spaces, it leaves you a little bit less fearful when you come out of it, and compassionate too. All seasoned warriors have scars.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:09 am 
 

I've had OCD for as far back as my earliest memories go. Was only diagnosed in my late teen years. Went from constant "checking" and other odd physical rituals to morphing into full on "Pure O"/Primary OCD which has been increasing in intensity ever since and now has my life in ruins. Yeah, the depression, anxiety attacks, mild agoraphobia and social anxiety all get worse and worse, but these are merely symptoms of a much bigger picture. It's a really fucking dark place to be and I hate it.

LeMiserable wrote:
Anyone else here thinks that his/hers illness(es) surely has its upsides? I actually think my disorders make me a better and more caring/loving person because I have so many (unusual) ideas on friendship, social life and the like, but my friends surely seem to like 'em.


You know, there was a time where I'd have agreed with you on this. I think the key here is that when your symptoms are relatively mild and under control you are able to see things this way (not to downplay your illness, I'm talking from a personal perspective). I actually had a doctor who I went to see years ago, when I'd decided my illness was becoming a real problem again after a brief period of doing relatively well, who gave me this bullshit: "Can you not see how having OCD can actually make you good at your job?". I nearly had to walk out. What I gathered was that she had a case of OCD herself and was managing a profession just fine, so thought it'd be a nice motivator for me. Good for her. I had just spent weeks barely leaving my house, signed off work, staring into the walls in silence for hours on end in what I call "OCD paralysis". Horrible stuff.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:28 am 
 

i've got some kind of neurological condition that's as-yet still undiagnosed; i experience a lot of "twinges" (best description i have) - like a nerve misfiring in my foot that happens a fair bit, some (thankfully very occasional) dizzy spells and heart palpitations, and while sleeping a lot of "twinges" in my head, like an extra pulse (but by no means a regular beat) or something that's completely unrelated to my regular pulse, etc. wakes me up every night, without fail. but the most noticeable symptom for me is that when looking at brighter-coloured things i see constant "streaks" of light... like tiny silver dots that dance around in front of my vision.

i've been to doctors a number of times now (it's been happening for about 4 years now) and i still don't have a satisfactory explanation for any of it. i've had an EEG, an MRI, worn a halter monitor for a day, etc, all without any success. annoyingly, the EEG (or is it an ECG? i can't remember) wasn't very thorough - my sleeping twinges always happen around 4-5am, presumably once i'm well and good in REM sleep, and the batteries in the machine died at about midnight when i was wearing it. the neurologist still thought this was enough.

that's the tricky thing with something that's hard to pinpoint: the doctors really don't believe there's anything wrong with you. most of my visits (it costs a lot to visit a neurologist, because that's specialist treatment) were basically just being told there was nothing wrong with me. at one point, the neurologist told me that she believed certain people "perceive more than others on a higher level" - still don't know whether she was calling me a hypochondriac, or revealing herself as a total quack. in the end she ignored all my waking symptoms and diagnosed me with parasomnia, some sleeptime offshoot of restless legs syndrome. which is of course wrong, but i do have a prescription for clonazepam if i need it (i don't - i mostly just use it if i need to sleep on a train/plane). and it wreaks havoc on the mind - without an actual diagnosis for these things, i myself can't tell the difference between actual symptoms and when i'm being a hypochondriac; every odd twinge and feeling begs a "holy shit, was that something?!" kinda reaction. i'm by nature not a hypochondriac, nor am i an anxious guy, but once the doctor is convinced you are... good luck.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:06 pm 
 

Arkhane wrote:

When your disability, regardless of mental or physical, starts getting the best of you and you can't seem to fight it off with will or medication, how do you cope with what you are experiencing? How do you tell yourself to keep going, or it'll be over soon? How do you avoid letting yourself sink to the point that getting back up doesn't feel like it's worth the effort?

I have a variety of issues like Fibromyalgia, depression, generalized anxiety, and IBS which pretty much leaves me in pretty intense physical pain a lot of the time. I've tried exercising but it's very hard when you're already sore everywhere before even doing anything. What I do when it gets really bad is basically convince myself that, no matter what, something is better than nothing. Maybe there's a God and he hates me, maybe I'm insanely unlucky, but I figure I have one life and I might as well live.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:55 pm 
 

Expedience wrote:
Yes, I've heard similar stories. Neil Young claimed to have cured his epilepsy through the power of the mind or something, but it isn't easy to put something that vague into practice. Anyway, mine are mostly nocturnal and it's a bit hard to practice mind-focus while asleep.

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Anyone else here thinks that his/hers illness(es) surely has its upsides? I actually think my disorders make me a better and more caring/loving person because I have so many (unusual) ideas on friendship, social life and the like, but my friends surely seem to like 'em.


Well, the list of famous epileptics in history is pretty impressive so I can fool myself into believing I'm part of a gifted clique: http://www.disabled-world.com/artman/pu ... mous.shtml
I think most illnesses have upsides. There's something very metal about getting to know pain and dark mental spaces, it leaves you a little bit less fearful when you come out of it, and compassionate too. All seasoned warriors have scars.

I've never tried it (seriously, I haven't), so I cannot speak from bias. But have you tried cannabis oils? Scientists are suggesting it's benefits include eased anxiety, strengthening of metabolism and immune system, and strengthening of brain neurons (if I have that term right). Meaning it has been cited in a number of cancer and epileptic patients as their last line of defense against their diseases.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/07/health/ch ... marijuana/
http://www.thehealthcure.org/2013/05/ep ... ts-of-cbd/

They all weigh the risks and benefits of CBD use on children with extreme cases, and seeing as how you are an adult, the typical developmental risks shouldn't apply. Then again, of course I'm not a doctor. But I feel it's worth a shot.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:04 pm 
 

Necroticism174 wrote:
Arkhane wrote:

When your disability, regardless of mental or physical, starts getting the best of you and you can't seem to fight it off with will or medication, how do you cope with what you are experiencing? How do you tell yourself to keep going, or it'll be over soon? How do you avoid letting yourself sink to the point that getting back up doesn't feel like it's worth the effort?

I have a variety of issues like Fibromyalgia, depression, generalized anxiety, and IBS which pretty much leaves me in pretty intense physical pain a lot of the time. I've tried exercising but it's very hard when you're already sore everywhere before even doing anything. What I do when it gets really bad is basically convince myself that, no matter what, something is better than nothing. Maybe there's a God and he hates me, maybe I'm insanely unlucky, but I figure I have one life and I might as well live.


That's exactly the combination my mom has, and I can attest that it seems exceptionally difficult to live with. More annoying is that I've seen many critics claim people just abuse fibromyalgia as a sort of "catch-all" disability to get out of work/etc., which then diminishes the apparent suffering of people who legitimately suffer from it. Kind of like the whole "gluten allergy" thing, I suppose.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:27 pm 
 

From what I know of Fibromyalgia, its a pretty debilitating condition. One would have to be fairly low to falsely claim that to get out of work or something. Actually, that goes for any physical/mental illness. Sad that there are so many people who do it.

I'm amazed that it is now the year 2014 and there is still a stigma in society regarding mental illness.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:59 pm 
 

SwampSlimer wrote:
From what I know of Fibromyalgia, its a pretty debilitating condition. One would have to be fairly low to falsely claim that to get out of work or something. Actually, that goes for any physical/mental illness. Sad that there are so many people who do it.

I'm amazed that it is now the year 2014 and there is still a stigma in society regarding mental illness.

I hate to do this, but one can say the same thing about racism. The only difference is that some mental illness cases are legitimately dangerous to society.

Also, that brings up a thought about how irritating it is to see some of today's teenagers assuming they have a mental illness just because they are upset about some asshole they have a crush on or something. The reverse could also be said, about how psychiatrists are trying to label rebellious and creative thinking people as "mentally disabled". It's like they want to drugs us into compliance, or place that stigma upon anyone who has a mind of their own so that the masses can disregard it easier.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:38 pm 
 

Yeah, that was what I was getting at Arkhane. Seems to be a recurrent problem primarily among the young. Instead of admitting responsibility for their problems and trying to help themselves, they'd rather say "oh I have an excuse because I have mental issues." Very frustrating. You could point to a number of reasons why: lack of discipline, too much electronic stimulus, etc etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:27 am 
 

When I was in primary school there was one fat kid and maybe two bad eggs from single parent families. ADHD was just a speck in my teacher's eye.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:11 pm 
 

SwampSlimer wrote:
Yeah, that was what I was getting at Arkhane. Seems to be a recurrent problem primarily among the young. Instead of admitting responsibility for their problems and trying to help themselves, they'd rather say "oh I have an excuse because I have mental issues." Very frustrating. You could point to a number of reasons why: lack of discipline, too much electronic stimulus, etc etc.

All very true. Also, you could blame biology. More specifically hormones, angst, and the efforts of the person to break out of the need to be taken care of. But assuming you have a disorder just because you're upset is very insulting and very undermining of what people with true mental disorders are going through.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:08 pm 
 

SwampSlimer wrote:
From what I know of Fibromyalgia, its a pretty debilitating condition. One would have to be fairly low to falsely claim that to get out of work or something.

Except getting diagnosed with it is a process that took 2 years and countless tests for me. One would have to have insane patience and be pretty stupid to fake it when you can fake other things much easier.
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