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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:06 pm 
 

Disc rot can get really heinous man, I have a couple of [almost] totally rooted units :grumble:

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Tormented666
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:38 pm 
 

anyone have the matrix for Merciless - treasures within Remaster Black Lodge and Necrony - Poserslaughter classics remasters?

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ThrashingMad
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:55 pm 
 

I'm trying to figure out if my cassette copy of Deathcult For Eternity by The Chasm is a bootleg. Matrix is CSOz006. The booklet and cassette look pro, it's supposedly released by Oz, everything looks legit, but I can't find any mention of a cassette release of this album on here or Discogs. I've seen this version mentioned on The Metal Crypt website, but its weird that no other website seems to acknowledge it's existence. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Helvede
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:10 pm 
 

ThrashingMad wrote:
I'm trying to figure out if my cassette copy of Deathcult For Eternity by The Chasm is a bootleg. Matrix is CSOz006. The booklet and cassette look pro, it's supposedly released by Oz, everything looks legit, but I can't find any mention of a cassette release of this album on here or Discogs. I've seen this version mentioned on The Metal Crypt website, but its weird that no other website seems to acknowledge it's existence. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.


I would assume there's an official tape version of it, especially considering that tapes were still common in the Mexican market at that time. But maybe you could just email and ask the band or the label.

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ThrashingMad
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:17 pm 
 

There's actually a phone number on the booklet, maybe I'll try that. It's definitely likely that there was a tape release, it's just strange to me that I can't find info on it on Discogs.

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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:21 pm 
 

Discogs is like anywhere else, if nobody adds the info it's not going to be there.
I add things there all the time that don't exist, actually I'm adding something right now, my 3rd today in fact :nods:
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ThrashingMad
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:35 pm 
 

dreadmeat wrote:
Discogs is like anywhere else, if nobody adds the info it's not going to be there.
I add things there all the time that don't exist, actually I'm adding something right now, my 3rd today in fact :nods:


This seems dishonest :lol:

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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:44 pm 
 

HA! that came out wrong :p
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Helvede
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:00 pm 
 

The first vinyl version of Silencer - Death, Pierce Me was limited to 200 copies. Does anyone know if it was bootlegged? I've seen it show up at Greek sellers lately, and I've learned not to trust Greek sellers (sorry to all the honest Greek sellers that are out there afterall).

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jgarci12
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:35 am 
 

Ok, got a question about my copy of Bolt Thrower-The IVth Crusade.

I don't know why, but on "Where Next To Conquer," there's a skip at 03:24, and the song's total length is 4:11.

Anyone else know anything about this?

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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:39 am 
 

What do you mean by a skip? is it a CD or LP or mp3?
You might want to post the catalogue number and/or matrix so people can compare the same versions.

Edit: no skip on mine and it plays to 3:47
http://www.discogs.com/Bolt-Thrower-The-IVth-Crusade/release/385500
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jgarci12
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:45 am 
 

It's a CD. "Where Next to Conquer" has a length of 03:50, but on my CD, its length is 04:11. At 03:24, Karl is singing "where next..." and then he's singing "mankind's journey" right after that.

The back says "MOSH 70," then below that:

745316007021

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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:49 am 
 

Chuck it in your computer and rip it then open it up with Audacity and take a look at it.
Could be a mispress or mastering error, it's not some weirdo Russian version is it?
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jgarci12
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:04 am 
 

It's the US version with "Crown of Life" and "Lament."

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androdion
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:25 pm 
 

dreadmeat wrote:
Edit: no skip on mine and it plays to 3:47

Ditto, give or take a couple of seconds.
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Asti78
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:52 am 
 

Does anyone know how the recent Russian bootleg of Morbid Sanint - Spectrum of Death (Grindcore Records) differs from the original version? Probably the matrix code. Just noticed that there are new swamps of bootlegs coming from there such as:

Grinder
Angel Dust
Protector
Death Angel
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Helvede
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:12 pm 
 

I believe the Morbid Saint bootleg is so new that none of the 'trustees' have had a chance to examin it yet.

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Helvede
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:37 pm 
 

Asti78 wrote:
Does anyone know how the recent Russian bootleg of Morbid Sanint - Spectrum of Death (Grindcore Records) differs from the original version? Probably the matrix code. Just noticed that there are new swamps of bootlegs coming from there such as:

Grinder
Angel Dust
Protector
Death Angel
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Morbid Saint bootleg is on ebay now:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Morbid-Saint-Sp ... 27d03cf907

I compared that picture with the original Grindcore version I have:

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There might be a difference in matrix, but I can't tell now. But there's another obvious difference: The area near the inner hole of the cd. My original copy has a black label side that covers everything from outer circle to inner ring. The Russian boot is also black, but there's a transparent/non-black ring seperating the playable part with the inner ring, if you know what I mean.

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DARKZSOU7
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:03 pm 
 

jgarci12 wrote:
It's a CD. "Where Next to Conquer" has a length of 03:50, but on my CD, its length is 04:11. At 03:24, Karl is singing "where next..." and then he's singing "mankind's journey" right after that.

The back says "MOSH 70," then below that:

745316007021

You're not the only one, same thing happens with my CD which was bought directly from the Earache label so im pretty sure we both have an official release that are probably part of recent error pressing.

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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:09 pm 
 

Feel free to add it to Discogs, I bet other people have it too :thumbsup:
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The Lions Den
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:15 am 
 

Hi there!
I need help about a planned purchase on amazon.it

Morgoth 'Cursed to live' cd
Suffocation 'Close of a chapter' cd


sometimes Amazon send a Century Media and Relapse licensed version of Icarus Music from Argentina.

To avoid the risk of being delivered to home the licensed version and taking the fact that Amazon will not tell me why is the version of the CD that I'm going to buy, I wanted to ask if possible, if there are licensed versions of the two CDs I listed above.

Please note that I have already search on Discogs and there are no licensed versions.

Thank you!
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japc
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:31 am 
 

I don't recall Amazon itself ever doing that (just check the label on the product details).

Third party sellers do that all of the time, had some returned, some refunded, but have since stopped bothering because they're cheap enough and I'm already expecting it. Why don't you ask the seller what's the label and catalog number?
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The Lions Den
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:20 am 
 

japc wrote:
I don't recall Amazon itself ever doing that (just check the label on the product details).

Third party sellers do that all of the time, had some returned, some refunded, but have since stopped bothering because they're cheap enough and I'm already expecting it. Why don't you ask the seller what's the label and catalog number?


Hello and thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately amazon.it sent me a cd Icarus licensed from Century Media (Death 'Leprosy').
Third party sellers if you ask what is the label of the CD they will respond vaguely that it can not check for sure.
The only solution I have is to risk and then maybe ask for a refund when a cd is licensed.
But it's still a hassle... I hope that cheap price does not mean always Icarus' licensed cd :puke:
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:32 am 
 

The Lions Den wrote:
But it's still a hassle... I hope that cheap price does not mean always Icarus' licensed cd :puke:

If it's new it probably means that. Or maybe not Icarus but Scarecrow or other South American label. Or maybe those are just cheap, they could be.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:02 am 
 

Devildriver 'Pray for villains' cd

Do you know any South American licensed version of this? Please help me, THX!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:41 pm 
 

does anyone know of any recent dark angel - we have arrived bootlegs?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:53 pm 
 

Years ago I bought Morbid Angel "Blessed Are The Sick" brand new on CD. This was probably around 1996 or 1997. When I opened it up, it looked like the disc was wrong - and I mistakenly got "Sleep's Holy Mountain" instead. When I played this disc, it was indeed Morbid Angel "Blessed Are The Sick" - just pressed with the wrong disc artwork.

Did anyone else ever encounter this one? Was this a pressing mistake that Morbid Angel, Sleep, or Earache Records ever addressed?

Thanks, not sure where to post this.

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LifeDemise
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:36 am 
 

So I just got A Blaze In The Northern Sky. Was expecting the black disc version but nope was the white! Just from reading some sites it's not the rarest of cds but seems to go for a silly price and there seems to be a lot of bootlegs around so need someone to tell me if this is legit.

Spoiler: show
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Scanner is not working and I can't really show the back, but matrix is "VILECD 28 MPO 01 @@".

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japc
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:02 am 
 

LifeDemise wrote:
So I just got A Blaze In The Northern Sky. Was expecting the black disc version but nope was the white! Just from reading some sites it's not the rarest of cds but seems to go for a silly price and there seems to be a lot of bootlegs around so need someone to tell me if this is legit.

Scanner is not working and I can't really show the back, but matrix is "VILECD 28 MPO 01 @@".


Hmm, maybe you got lucky. Compare to this one: http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=2624225
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$320?! ha ha whoah :eek:
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God dammit, got one of these today :grumble:
Sarcófago ‎– I.N.R.I. BOOTLEG
http://www.discogs.com/Sarc%C3%B3fago-INRI/release/3961236
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I recently acquired "From Ashes" by Abysmal Dawn, but just the CD, i.e. I don't have the album artwork or case. I bought a crap load of CDs from a guy, and thus far the albums I've been checking seem to be legit. I believe it's the original print. It doesn't really have any identifying information on the front besides the album title and band, but the only thing it appears to say on the CD matrix is "#7400 - Abysmal Dawn - From Ashes". No barcode, nothing else, just that.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:11 am 
 

XcKyle93 wrote:
I recently acquired "From Ashes" by Abysmal Dawn, but just the CD, i.e. I don't have the album artwork or case. I bought a crap load of CDs from a guy, and thus far the albums I've been checking seem to be legit. I believe it's the original print. It doesn't really have any identifying information on the front besides the album title and band, but the only thing it appears to say on the CD matrix is "#7400 - Abysmal Dawn - From Ashes". No barcode, nothing else, just that.

Why would anyone bootleg a 2006 album from Crash that has been reissued by Relapse?! :scratch:
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:30 pm 
 

dreadmeat wrote:
God dammit, got one of these today :grumble:
Sarcófago ‎– I.N.R.I. BOOTLEG
http://www.discogs.com/Sarc%C3%B3fago-INRI/release/3961236


Bootleg or not that album rocks.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:14 pm 
 

androdion wrote:
XcKyle93 wrote:
I recently acquired "From Ashes" by Abysmal Dawn, but just the CD, i.e. I don't have the album artwork or case. I bought a crap load of CDs from a guy, and thus far the albums I've been checking seem to be legit. I believe it's the original print. It doesn't really have any identifying information on the front besides the album title and band, but the only thing it appears to say on the CD matrix is "#7400 - Abysmal Dawn - From Ashes". No barcode, nothing else, just that.

Why would anyone bootleg a 2006 album from Crash that has been reissued by Relapse?! :scratch:


So are you expressing surprise that it is actually a bootleg, or are you saying that it's very unlikely? About half of the CD's I bought from this guy came with the original jewelcase and everything, and the rest he said he didn't have the artwork, they were digipaks, or came in sleeves or something. Does anyone else have the original CD to compare?
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I'm saying it's pretty much improbable, not to say impossible. ;)
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:48 pm 
 

japc wrote:
dreadmeat wrote:
God dammit, got one of these today :grumble:
Sarcófago ‎– I.N.R.I. BOOTLEG
http://www.discogs.com/Sarc%C3%B3fago-INRI/release/3961236


Bootleg or not that album rocks.

Oh yeah for sure, you can hear the clicks and pops of the needle playing the vinyl it was ripped from :roll:
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:44 pm 
 

...visit:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/mayhem-deathc ... 0596679089?

i will say bootleg.......

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:36 pm 
 

RIOT - Army of One

Does anyone know of a russian licensed version of this album?

Or does anyone know this seller:
cult_of_the_shadow
(he is also on discogs)

I was about to buy this from ebay, but the Label: Mazzar/Mystic Empire, which is based in Russia drew my attention. It should be Metal Heaven from germany, and i can't find any info about this licensed version. Mazzar and Mystic Empire are listed on Metal-Archives, but this album is not listed.
The seller has almost perfect feedback, but it's very suspicious that he already sold five (!!!) copies of this rather hard to find album (none on discogs or ebay anywhere) in the past weeks.
Here's the ebay link:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/RIOT-Army-of-One ... 257bdf548d

Is this a bootleg? Any help would be appreciated.

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Silentis
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:16 pm 
 

Assuming the deadwax/matrix info is real and not just grabbed from Discogs or something, it would be a dead giveaway. You would need to ask the seller for good pictures of the deadwax and compare it to others authentic copies (you'd have to find pictures of that too). It's really the only way to tell for certain.

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