Its pretty sad really to see they are making such a cash grab out of this, its a fucking joke. As I said before I will hold for the cd but what would stop them putting a crazy price on this format also. If they do I would think it would be a double edged sword as people will download the shit out of it.

I hope that won't be the case and this tape will remain a single occurrence of hype economics. Prophecy has always been a great label, I would hate to see them turn to shit out of sheer greed.

Really looking forward to this. Both Paysage d'Hiver and Darkspace are the two of the greatest when it comes to evoking atmosphere.

I recommend newcomers to Paysage d'Hiver start with the S/T release and Winterkalte.

I was thinking pretty much the same thing, I was considering grabbing this when it comes out, but the high price of the tape and even higher minimum order price is ridiculous.

Aha, no. I said tracks because I thought I remembered listening to a different song on youtube with the same album cover but I can't find it anymore or any mention of there being a second track. Not sure what it was I listened to before...

Paysage d'Hiver releases have always been pricey. This is nothing new.

Yes, though this is more so, especially since it's limited to Prophecy. I can get the A5 CD reissues for the same price as this tape from Mercenary Musik (maybe less, Mercenary doesn't have a place to calculate shipping). Also, all of Prophecy's tapes right now are similar to this in price.

I'v just recently discovered "Kristall & Isa" and really enjoy it ,i am really looking forward to getting into both of these other album's

Not just both bro, you have another 8 full albums you can check out. The self titled is probably the best place to start.

Really !! farrrrk ,will have to get amongst it

Why no one mentioned Schattengang? Gorgeous in its crushing hypnotic brutality!
Also tracks from splits with Lunar Aurora and Vinterriket are fvkin great too.

how do lunar aurora compare? i tunes keep recommending them to me

I might be a dumbass for asking this but why are all the band's releases "demos"? Don't they have enough material in them to qualify as full-length albums?

Lunar Aurora are fantastic also though much cleaner and clearer sound and production wise. Just give Andacht a listen and you will be sold.

Lunar Aurora are fairly good, Andacht being probably their best release, but I'd have to say Paysage d'Hiver is in a different class entirely. PdH simply defines atmosphere. LA certainly have their merits and they're definitely above average, but there's something about their catalogue that doesn't seem to grab me, even though I occasionally go back to it to see if there's something I'm missing. Some abstract factor in their songwriting holds it back for me.

Well along with a shit load of Paysage d'Hiver, i'm going to have to check them out. Im really digging this atmospheric black metal stuff at the moment.

Got a second offer on Schattengang accepted and will be getting it for £25 + P&P for the A5 CD.....am chuffed!

You done well tracking that one down SleepingStar, it the self titled and Die Festung seem to be the rarest, glad I have the other two in my collection

well I bought Die Festung off the trading forum here for the same price, which just leaves the self titled to obtain of the rare releases......never seen it available anywhere though, even for a ridiculous price...

I bought those two as soon as they were released, not knowing how rare they would become. Only thing was I was not careful opening the black printed envelope they come in, badly ripping it open only to realise they were printed on also ah well they still keep the digipak itself in good order.

Sweet Jesus, I've been waiting for this release ever since it's supposedly been completed (which is apparently 3 years ago). Ewig Leuchten Die Sterne sounds like a complete winner to me, especially with the return to the black metal style. There's no way this album won't succeed expectations, Wintherr is simply a master of atmosphere. The music isn't terribly complicated, but it's no more complicated than it needs to be. Love the rich and enchanting sounds achieved with his acoustic guitar and violin.

Could you please enlighten me on this.The album i have been listening "Kristall & Isa" sounds black metal enough ,but i remember youtubing some song's at random that sounded quiet a bit different.

Die Festung and Einsamkeit have more ambient passages and both happen to be my favourite releases - definitely worth checking out.

Awesome! I've been listening to the self titled a lot lately. Fuck, I wish I had more money to buy records and stuff. Tony, if you haven't checked it out already, I think you'd really dig it, especially considering the similarities between PD'H and a lot of QCBM bands.

I've got Die Festung, the s/t, Kristall & Isa, Schattengang, and Kerker in the A5 CD form. I still very much need to get the others. I paid $25 a piece for those, but I don't regret a penny of that. The packaging is amazing, and the music is even better, and this is from a guy normally bored to tears over ambient black metal. Wintherr is just THAT GOOD.

Das Tor? Hell yeah I need that. Can't play cassettes over here, so as soon as that's on CD, I'm grabbing it.

Einsamkeit, the last demo, was a dominantly ambient album. Paysage D'Hiver experimented with this style previously on Die Festung. They're enjoyable in their own right, but I bask in the neverending blast beats of his other work.

I personaly like the new demo very much. Very hypnotic, catchy and strong atmosphere.
Ewig Leuchten Die Sterne is truly the top track of Das Tor.

Still waiting for the A5! Hopefully it wont take long to to follow.

Just listened to one song today, not the best moment because I have an enormous headache hahaha, anyway its a good song but I still prefer Darkspace.

it's actually rather impressive on first listen, some have said it sounds quite similar to Darkspace in places which I can kinda hear....just a shame I don't expect this to be released on A5 for ages

Actually, I sent an email to Kunsthall Productions concerning the A5 and who I'm assuming is Wintherr responded with this:

"It's in progress and I think it will be available soon!

Best regards
W."

Winter's going away for another nine months soon though. I hope it gets around soon.

Excellent news. It's official then: I'm skipping the overpriced tape and going straight for the cd as soon as it's out. Thanks for sharing the update!

Yes! Thanks for the update thrashfan07, just what I wanted to hear

Yes! Thanks for the update thrashfan, just the news I wanted to hear

I'm greatly saddened by the fact that we got hit by the biggest snowstorm in years last week (Kansas City area) and I didn't have the new PDH to accompany it. With my luck, I'm sure flowers will be peeking through the snow by the time it shows up, heh.

No problem man, I'm pretty giddy to get my hands on the CD as well! From what I've heard, the reception for this has been fantastic, so I'm pretty hyped to hear it at long last.

I feel like this is the best new black metal release in YEARS. absolutely monumental, 2nd only to the self-titled in the Paysage d'Hiver discography

Speaking of their myspace tracks, "Schnee III" is easily the best song they've ever made as far as I'm concerned and still seemingly confined exclusively to that dying website, wasn't there supposed to be a compilation they were to release with that and their other "Schnee" tracks together?

Heard this new one. First impression: good. Not amazing, something that I've felt with most of Paysage d'Hiver's other releases too. Winterkaelte is probably the one great album they've done, but too many of their other releases rely too heavily on their droning length and tape static production for atmosphere, the songs themselves not really able to hold up so well on their own. Nice to listen to in the background, but with the exception of that aforementioned album and song, I've not found them all that memorable, not quite living up to their album covers as much as I hoped. Better than Darkspace at least...

I know its a silly question, but taking into account the length of the songs and the demo itself. Why it is released as a demo and not as a offficial album?