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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:37 pm 
 

any bootlegs/dodgy versions of
Satyricon ‎– Nemesis Divina [promo] floating about that you guys know of?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:25 pm 
 

There shouldn't be, the original edition isn't even close to rare.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:26 pm 
 

androdion wrote:
There shouldn't be, the original edition isn't even close to rare.
tell that to the moron who booted this vengeance rising cd i have here ha ha ha :roll:
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:28 pm 
 

You got really traumatized by that one. :D I bought my original copy of ND for 10€ if that's indicative of anything.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:38 pm 
 

yes, i ran around screaming horribly for a while :durr:
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:27 pm 
 

the Satyricon ‎– Nemesis Divina cd is definitely a legal promo, cool.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:06 am 
 

Equimanthorn ‎– Nindinugga Nimshimshargal Enlillara

anyone feel like checking this out and giving their opinion on it?
compare matrix info etc

http://www.discogs.com/Equimanthorn-Nindinugga-Nimshimshargal-Enlillara/release/4186585

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:04 pm 
 

Does anyone know if Noise Records ever released Deathrow's Raging Steel in CD. I have checked some sources like Discogs but no refence to a Noise CD version. I recently bought a collection of CD's from a local guy and found this one in CD, it looks like an obvious bootleg, with matrix number RAGINGSTEEL. Does anyone has this bootleg? When was it issued?

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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:55 pm 
 

these guys reckon it's a bootleg, feel free to add it to discogs man :nono:
http://www.musik-sammler.de/album/27873

edit: the headshake smiley is because it's a bootleg not because you're asking about it :p
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:27 pm 
 

In memory of Celtic Frost - Dwell Records compilation

do you guys have this?
do we know how many different versions exist? [mine is the non BMG version with a barcode]
is there some official explanation for the mastering error at the end?
tracks 12, 13 and 14 are all 1 track

it's not on their label page here http://www.metal-archives.com/labels/Dwell_Records

http://www.dwellrecords.com exploded a while ago [2008?] but wayback machine at least lets us have a look
http://web.archive.org/web/20060219093611/http://www.dwellrecords.com/web/page.asp?pgs=product&catid=32&id=825
their myspace page hasn't been used since about 2008 too if i'm reading it correctly.
http://www.myspace.com/dwellrecords1
and i don't see a faecbook page...

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:18 pm 
 

carnival_corpse wrote:
Does anyone know if Noise Records ever released Deathrow's Raging Steel in CD. I have checked some sources like Discogs but no refence to a Noise CD version. I recently bought a collection of CD's from a local guy and found this one in CD, it looks like an obvious bootleg, with matrix number RAGINGSTEEL. Does anyone has this bootleg? When was it issued?

There is exactly one CD edition of Deathrow's first two albums, the 2008 ones on Displeased Records. Both those albums were vinyl only releases back then and they were issued for the first time on CD five years ago. There's a funny mistake on the sophomore because it has the song "Scattered by the Wind" divided into two separate album tracks when it's actually just one song. That's also why the track list on the back insert doesn't match the actual CD.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:34 pm 
 

In a 1988 interview in Metal Core Zine Max Cavalera says that the European pressing of Schizophrenia through U.S. Metal /Shark Records is a bootleg. Can this be confirmed as true or did the Brazilian label offer rights to these labels to release it and Max is just uninformed.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:19 pm 
 

japc wrote:
Anyone has the Omen - Battle Cry reissue from Metal Blade with the black backcover with the large Omen Battle Cry?

Just got a copy from an amazon 3rd party (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000 ... 02_s00_i00) very cheap, and some things strike me as odd: it was sealed but one of the spines is torn, it has no inner print on the backcover but comes in a transparent jewelcase, the backcover layout is very much like the limited edition (black with the large band + title) but without the limited edition on the bottom right, the cover is very blurry and the paper feels weird.

Matrix is 14215-2 03 with a DiscUSA logo
SID codes: IFPI L794 IFPI 2D40.

Anyone with a similar edition? I guess I should discard this as a counterfeit and bug the seller, if not for anything else because of packaging + torn spine.


Ok, they offered me a new copy because of the tear in the spine, it arrived today. This one has a much sharper print, came with a Metal Blade sticker on the wrap and a white plastic "Band - Title, label, barcode" sticker on the top of the jewel case (they use those for easy id-ing). The CD is also different. The backcover is exactly the same, the cover and booklet is also the same (except for the print quality).

Photos...
(top is the new one)

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:25 pm 
 

very different, the quality of the other one looks much lower.
adding to discogs as we speak no doubt :roll:
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:09 am 
 

What about the matrix? Is it the same?

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japc
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:13 am 
 

No, it's different. The new one has a xx/yy/2012 date on the matrix so it must be a recent reissue.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:48 am 
 

Ok, but is it still a DiscUsa pressing? If yes, are the logos identical? It's only pure curiosity. Thanks

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:50 am 
 

DigitalDictator wrote:
Ok, but is it still a DiscUsa pressing? If yes, are the logos identical? It's only pure curiosity. Thanks

Thank you for making me get up from the couch, it's a storm outside and I felt cozy.
But got myself to the other side of the house and here you have it:

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:44 pm 
 

that looks totally legit from here, on the other side of the world, with no storm :lol:
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:00 pm 
 

No, I bet it is, I just mentioned it as a follow up to my weird Battle Cry buy.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:07 pm 
 

oh, that's a different cd... :scratch: :crash:
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:09 am 
 

bootleg?

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matrix is "MCAD42187 S8526C MANUFACTURED BY SANYO", BUT the font is suspicious...

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:11 am 
 

we can't really see the font, can you take a closer photo or scan?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:10 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Cianide/Rage_War_1996/10829
http://www.discogs.com/Cianide-Rage-War-1996/release/3422487
http://www.musik-sammler.de/media/654360

http://shop.cryonicsrecords.com/shop/cyanide-rage-war-1996/
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330858214710

is this thing legit? :scratch:
i just emailed mike from cianide about it, i'd be keen to get a copy [obviously not from the russian for $150]
and only if it's a legit release on a legit label, which by the way doesn't seem to exist here at MA
although there is mention of it on the release page


EDIT!

just got a reply from mike from cianide
it's totally legit, so yeah awesome! :metal:
i won't be buying the russian's one though...

i just noticed they spelled cianide wrong [cyanide]
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:07 am 
 

rooster85 wrote:
bootleg?

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matrix is "MCAD42187 S8526C MANUFACTURED BY SANYO", BUT the font is suspicious...


Obvious bootleg!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:06 am 
 

Osmi_Putnik wrote:
Obvious bootleg!!!

That would be my first guess too, but can you elaborate on the "Obvious" part?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:56 pm 
 

japc wrote:
Osmi_Putnik wrote:
Obvious bootleg!!!

That would be my first guess too, but can you elaborate on the "Obvious" part?


I'm not at home right now to scan "original" made by SANYO cd...Shok Paris - Steel And Starlight come to my mind...i will post it here next week.
Way too different font of matrix on 1st look.

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Helvede
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:58 am 
 

Why even bother bootlegging that cd? I mean, is it even valuable?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:16 pm 
 

Helvede wrote:
Why even bother bootlegging that cd? I mean, is it even valuable?

A quick look at ebay says it sells for around $70. It's a tradeoff, if it's not incredibly rare/expensive then it's easier to get a copy to dup and, also, people tend to be less inquisitive on the fact that copies keep showing for sale and less inquisitive when buying and getting the CD.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:12 pm 
 

About a year ago I purchased what I thought was an original second hand self titlled Burzum album. This is the press with the Voice of Wonders address but no Burzum address.

The matrixes on the sides are MOSH 002-A HC3873161 and MOSH 002-B HC3873161which I'm pretty sure is right. My question though, and what I have been reading lately, is that the inside of the cover should be black for the pressing with Voice Of Wonders address and white inside the cover for the pressing with Burzum's address. I have just checked the inside of my cover now and it is not black.

Can anyone who owns the originals, and are 100% sure they are originals, confirm this information?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:22 pm 
 

MOSH = Earache, it may just be under license from Voice Of Wonder?
Any chance of some photos?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:43 pm 
 

Yeah I will get some photos up tomorrow. I am assuming that MOSH 002 is a shortened version for ANTI-MOSH 002.

http://www.discogs.com/Burzum-Burzum/release/463014

Discogs seems to confirm that the matrixes are accurate but it does not mention about the inside of the cover. I noticed on Neseblod Records, in their rarities section, that they state that the original version has white inside the cover, and the second version with black inside the cover. Not saying that their word is gospel or anything but I did a little checking on ebay previous auctions and it has also been mentioned but not everytime.

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Right so here are a few photos of the copy that I have. The little mark on the top right of the cover is a small rip from a price tag. My photographic skills are pretty shit and excuse the clutter in the background. I have also done a photo of the inside of the cover...as you can see it is gray not black. If you zoom in to the photos of the vinyl you should be able to see the etching of the matrixes.

I actually rechecked on popsike for auctions and most of them don't mention anything about the inside of the cover. Perhaps it's much ado about nothing, but I'm just very curious to know what is exactly genuine and what is not. Here are the photos...I have had to link them as they will be too large to display in the thread.

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/6137/pict0474p.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3876/pict0479y.jpg
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7126/pict0482m.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9108/pict0487w.jpg
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:51 pm 
 

Considering the metric shitton of Burzum bootlegs that populate the market I wanted to ask how safe it is to buy this version of the album. Are the bootlegs made primarily for the first press or are also digipak bootlegs of this version?
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androdion wrote:
Considering the metric shitton of Burzum bootlegs that populate the market I wanted to ask how safe it is to buy this version of the album. Are the bootlegs made primarily for the first press or are also digipak bootlegs of this version?


I'm not sure about digipak bootlegs for Hvist Lyset, but there are a good few boots attempting to mimic the original jewel case version. This thread for me was valuable when I got around to purchasing my copy which I'm pretty sure is an original: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=93255

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:11 am 
 

I'm not really certain this is the best topic to post my question, but considering that this forum is almost exclusively discussion oriented I think it'd be a bit redundant just to open a separate topic for what essentially isn't really a discussion :D

Anyway, I have a couple of retail bought CDs on the underside of which I've noticed parts of the edge that are a bit uneven:

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Image taken from discogs btw. But my CD, which is only 1 year old, has similar uneven parts at the edge.

So, does this have anything to do with that scary "CD rot" thing? Does it affect playability in any way? What is it? :D I'm a bit rusty when it comes to CD knowledge.

Thanks for the help.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:18 am 
 

krakhuul wrote:
So, does this have anything to do with that scary "CD rot" thing? Does it affect playability in any way? What is it? :D I'm a bit rusty when it comes to CD knowledge.

Not, that's not bit rot. Bit rot is not so good looking, it look almost like mold with an uneven, kind of organic, spread (sometimes in dots, lines or larger areas). What you have in that CD is a manufacturing particularity, nothing to worry about.

It shouldn't affect playability unless it gets into the playable area (turn the CD around, check from the inner to the outer)
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Thank you very much :)

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Disciples Of Mockery - Prelude To Apocalypse
The original has a red jewel case?
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