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Goremasher
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:56 pm 
 

Any of these good for Trivium, Megadeth, Lamb of God stuff? For redorfing guitar, bass, and vocals? For a guy on a budget?

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audi ... ne-package

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audi ... buy-2-save

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audi ... microphone

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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:02 pm 
 

Get an SM57 for all of those. You can eventually get a different vocal mic, but they work just fine for recording vocals. They work for basically everything.

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ShaolinLambKiller
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:09 pm 
 

that's all that has to be said^^^^

SM57 all the way.
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Voorvader
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:57 am 
 

Like just about everybody will tell you, go with the SM57; if you don't like it, then you're not doing it right.
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Goremasher
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:38 pm 
 

100 bucks for a mic ill barely get to use...
It doesnt come with a chord to go from the mic to the computer does it?

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ShaolinLambKiller
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:12 pm 
 

what are you talking about?

you can pick up a SM57 for $40 bucks, brand new.

also if you are going to barely use it.. do you not plan on recording like a song a year? Cause it gets used as often as you record.

and no it doesn't come with a chord that goes into the computer cause this is a real mic, not some cheap garbage you pick up at walmart.
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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:35 pm 
 

If you need cables, they're not very expensive. I use a lot of monoprice's cables because the price is right and they work as well as any others.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subde ... p_id=10244

If you don't have an interface, you can either buy one for around $99 or get a single-use XLR-to-USB interface, there's an Alesis one on Amazon for around $33 (I think Necroticism174 uses one). http://www.amazon.com/Alesis-MicLink-Au ... B001OXLNMG

If you can't afford $99 for an SM57 and $33 or $99 for the interface, seriously, just use a USB microphone from Rock Band or another video game, they're cheap as hell and they're functional for demoing things. You will never outgrow/stop using an SM57, it's an investment that is completely worth it, is extremely durable, and holds its value quite well too.

ShaolinLambKiller wrote:
you can pick up a SM57 for $40 bucks, brand new.


I know you got one for $40, but generally anything found for $40 online is a fake, as that's below wholesale price. They're extremely common.
Some notes on identifying fakes: http://bbs.espguitars.com/showthread.php?t=19266

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Awblaster
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:49 pm 
 

You'll need an interface as well. There's loads around the $100 mark that'll do everything you need, do a search and check some of the other threads in this forum.

And definitely listen to everyone else, an SM57 should be the first mic you buy. It can record pretty much anything, and even though it might not be the best for, say, vocals, it'll still be good quality. And for guitar cabs it's pretty much the only mic that everyone agrees on using. It's just that good.

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ShaolinLambKiller
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:45 pm 
 

Zodijackyl wrote:
ShaolinLambKiller wrote:
you can pick up a SM57 for $40 bucks, brand new.


I know you got one for $40, but generally anything found for $40 online is a fake, as that's below wholesale price. They're extremely common.
Some notes on identifying fakes: http://bbs.espguitars.com/showthread.php?t=19266



I didn't find it online. i went in a music store and bought it in the plastic case brand new. it was a Shure. Not fake, maybe it was on sale. who knows I'll go back and see if they have more.

and regardless if it is $99 and you are bitching about the price of that and want something even cheaper that's a direct line in like with a usb... you aren't going to achieve any sort of sound like those bands you linked.
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Det_Morkettall
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:22 am 
 

Goremasher wrote:
Any of these good for Trivium, Megadeth, Lamb of God stuff? For a guy on a budget?

:lol:

I don't think you'll find anything for a guy on a budget if you want to sound like Trivium, Megadeth, Lamb of God. Keep in mind that all of those bands have something a guy on a budget conceivably does not; money to burn on recording, production teams, mastering, etc.

However, if you mean just to record loud guitar and to get a similar high quality recording, then I suggest you either go for a mic'd amp (use an sm57 to pick up the sound from your amp) or you can direct record. If you're on a budget, direct recording is a much more viable option. Get a direct recording interface, such as the Saffire Pro 24 or, if you're REALLY on a budget, a Behringer Guitar Link. There are also a number of free and paid (lolnot) softwares out there that you can use to simulate high-quality recording studios and equipment. If I find the list I made two years ago with the names of all free amp simulator VSTs, I'll post it in a new thread for reference.
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Iron1
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:29 am 
 

I got a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 for just over a $100 on Amazon. Allows me to run either two instruments, or two mics, or one one of each, at the same time into my laptop. The one of each mode will be great for running a guitar amp direct in, and mic'ing the speaker with the SM57 (I have an SM58 so I'll use that instead) for natural reverb, too.

The Scarlet even comes with a demo version of Ableton Live recording software you can use for basic recording. Grab that, an SM57 and a mic cable and you're ready to crush.
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Voorvader
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:07 pm 
 

Zodijackyl wrote:
If you need cables, they're not very expensive. I use a lot of monoprice's cables because the price is right and they work as well as any others.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subde ... p_id=10244

If you don't have an interface, you can either buy one for around $99 or get a single-use XLR-to-USB interface, there's an Alesis one on Amazon for around $33 (I think Necroticism174 uses one). http://www.amazon.com/Alesis-MicLink-Au ... B001OXLNMG

If you can't afford $99 for an SM57 and $33 or $99 for the interface, seriously, just use a USB microphone from Rock Band or another video game, they're cheap as hell and they're functional for demoing things. You will never outgrow/stop using an SM57, it's an investment that is completely worth it, is extremely durable, and holds its value quite well too.

ShaolinLambKiller wrote:
you can pick up a SM57 for $40 bucks, brand new.


I know you got one for $40, but generally anything found for $40 online is a fake, as that's below wholesale price. They're extremely common.
Some notes on identifying fakes: http://bbs.espguitars.com/showthread.php?t=19266


I second this information. Like he said $40 will not get you a REAL SM57, unless it is used.
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juicebitch
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:09 am 
 

^

I think SLK got lucky.
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Ilwhyan
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:44 am 
 

SM57 costs about 200€ here. $40 sounds absurd.
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ShaolinLambKiller
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:44 am 
 

It was on sale at the music store, cause they didn't have any additional ones for 40 when I went and checked this week. I didn't know it was a sale going on I just walked in picked it up brand new in the package paid 40 bucks and walked out. Or maybe the idiot clerk rang it up for cheaper, either way it's a real mic, not used, and I paid 40 bucks for it. Soooo.... sucks for all of you that didn't luck out like me :)
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Ilwhyan
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:24 am 
 

Yeah, clearly you had freakish luck. Saying in general that you can get them for $40 isn't really true though.
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ShaolinLambKiller
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:32 pm 
 

Well I had never had to buy a new one, I honestly didn't think they were any more than that since I bought it so long ago. Only cause of this thread did I go and look and find out why I got mine for so cheap. So as it turned out to be false... up till this very week from some years ago... I thought they were only 40 bucks. I don't destroy my shit and need mics on some sort of constant basis that I would know otherwise. So it's not like I was just stating some lies since it was true in my instance.
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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:33 am 
 

SM57s are pretty much immortal anyway, part of why they're such a good investment.

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Iron1
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:43 am 
 

Zodijackyl wrote:
SM57s are pretty much immortal anyway, part of why they're such a good investment.


I've had my SM58 for 24 years and it still works as well as ever, after 100+ shows, thousands of band practices, more than one spike into the stage and gallons of beer... Best $99 I ever spent on gear.
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