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mandatory1967
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:47 am 
 

BEWARE.....ANOTHER RIP OFF FROM ITALY!!

MA ID: torn-soul
NWN ID: torn-soul
EBAY ID (1): agares-throne (CHANGED HIS NAME FROM torn-soul) / EBAY ID (2): blasphereion / EBAY ID (3): into-abyss
(NOW HE'S PREPARING OTHER ACCOUNTS)
FACEBOOK (1): http://www.facebook.com/BestialButcher / FACEBOOK (2): http://www.facebook.com/agares.duca
DISCOGS PAGE: http://www.discogs.com/seller/pestilential-penis

CONTACT:
LUCA GIARRIZZO
VIA CAPPONI 5
PADOVA
35124
ITALY

STOP HIS MADNESS!! HE COPIES TAPES AND SELLS THEM LIKE ORIGINAL TAPES.....FUCK OFF!! HE ALSO DOESN'T SHIP PACKAGES TO ITALY BECAUSE OF HIS FEAR TO BE RECOGNIZED BY SOMEONE!!
JUST LOOK AT HIS PAGE NOW FOR SEEING AN AUCTION WITH HIS MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS TO INCREASE HIS FUCKING PROFIT!!!


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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:31 pm 
 

Its Interesting.... where is the link of his auction!?

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mandatory1967
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:01 pm 
 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/140883120347?ss ... 1423.l2649

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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:26 am 
 

If you sure about it, you can inform ebay. They will can ban him.

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obscure plasma
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:53 am 
 

http://www.demoarchives.com/index1.htm

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Epitaph-Disorie ... true&rt=nc

What is the original one??? The BLACK tape (featured in Demo-Archives site) I guess..........
:guns: :crash: :snipe:
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manes
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:25 pm 
 

Ebay doesn't give a crap about fake demos, guaranteed.
I think it's just insane to spend such money for a demo featuring a xeroxed card and an anonymous white tape. Everybody can reproduce it, if you don't know the source just leave it there, of course the seller will tell you: "Yeah, I bought them directly from the band". Probably they themselves got ripped off previously, then when they realized it they tried to get some money back by reselling them. The Traumatic demo was fake, so that had to be a starting point I guess...
There was an Italian guy who was selling "an original Death demo, gotten from Chuck himself back in the days, etc etc etc". I was kinda interested, so I checked his feedbacks and he realized he had just bought it from an infamous ebay bootlegger, two weeks before...very stupid. And ebay is much dumber, now I can't even see what a seller has bought in the previous years by checking the feedbacks, it was a big help when buying demos, it took away that option, good job.
Personally the most I have spent for a demo is 90 euros, years ago, it was a Kvist demo and the source was super reliable, so I went for it.
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evil_o
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:43 pm 
 

mandatory1967 wrote:
BEWARE.....ANOTHER RIP OFF FROM ITALY!!

MA ID: torn-soul
NWN ID: torn-soul
EBAY ID (1): agares-throne (CHANGED HIS NAME FROM torn-soul) / EBAY ID (2): blasphereion / EBAY ID (3): into-abyss
(NOW HE'S TRYING TO PREPARE ANOTHER ACCOUNT THERE)

CONTACT:
LUCA GIARRIZZO
PADOVA
ITALY


I supposedly struck a deal with that guy who's supposed to have sent me money for a tape, it's been 10 days I guess I can cancel his order. Thanks for the info!

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Throne_of_Ahaz
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:08 am 
 

If I'm honest, there seem to be too many Italian rip-offs as well these days. I am getting close to refusing to deal with anyone from that country again, after my last three eBay purchases from that country all resulting in attempted rip-offs. One using a fake tracking number, one claiming it was sent until I opened a case and said he had sold it elsewhere, and the most recent claiming it had been delivered to me when he sent with no tracking number and had already claimed it had been returned to him and he had resent it. Too much bullshit around Italy now.
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ild
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:06 pm 
 

Is bad to hear this... I don't know this one and I don't have traded before with him in Italy...

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obscure plasma
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:26 pm 
 

My humble opinion: here on M-A there are (I'm sure at 99,99%) serious and reliable traders/sellers only! FUCK E-GAY!!! :crash:

I think rip-offs exist in Italy as well as in U.S.A., in Asia, in the rest of Europe....EVERYWHERE!! The important thing is managing to discover and then AVOID them...
By the way, this scum is just a time-waster, I trust in people who say he's a rip-off. He did want to buy some tapes from me but he has not replied to my e-mails anymore... STAY AWAY from this full-of-shit (as we say in our territory)!! :fuck: :snipe:
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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:27 pm 
 

Throne_of_Ahaz wrote:
If I'm honest, there seem to be too many Italian rip-offs as well these days. I am getting close to refusing to deal with anyone from that country again, after my last three eBay purchases from that country all resulting in attempted rip-offs. One using a fake tracking number, one claiming it was sent until I opened a case and said he had sold it elsewhere, and the most recent claiming it had been delivered to me when he sent with no tracking number and had already claimed it had been returned to him and he had resent it. Too much bullshit around Italy now.


One Italian guy ripped me off too :(

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obscure plasma
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:17 pm 
 

Grief_Of_Adoration wrote:

One Italian guy ripped me off too :(


:panda: :eek: :grr: :nono:

Who is this fucking bastard parasite?? (I hope not a M-A user......)

:guns:
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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:38 pm 
 

obscure plasma wrote:
Grief_Of_Adoration wrote:

One Italian guy ripped me off too :(


:panda: :eek: :grr: :nono:

Who is this fucking bastard parasite?? (I hope not a M-A user......)

:guns:


Yes, he was MA user, I dont know maybe he has another nickname too.

urgrund = vinterland_75 (Rippedd me Off for 50 euro)

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ild
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:04 pm 
 

Uhh.... Vinterland_75 is (in)famous also in Italy... maybe your name is Alessandro Bussa? I'm not sure but I think yes at 99%... but I agree with Obscure Plasma post... rip-off exist all around the world!

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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:27 pm 
 

ild wrote:
Uhh.... Vinterland_75 is (in)famous also in Italy... maybe your name is Alessandro Bussa? I'm not sure but I think yes at 99%... but I agree with Obscure Plasma post... rip-off exist all around the world!


No mate Im not that guy, My name is Arash ;)
However this person Ripped me off with "urgrund" Nickname and after that he came back with another Nickname "vinterland_75"

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ild
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:46 pm 
 

No OK I'm in error, Alessandro Bussa is another rip-off with e-mail: vanishing82@..."I don't remember"...

Vinterland_75 I think is dokkal_far on ebay but I have buyed some CD from him and he don't ripped me off....

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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:51 pm 
 

ild wrote:
No OK I'm in error, Alessandro Bussa is another rip-off with e-mail: vanishing82@..."I don't remember"...

Vinterland_75 I think is dokkal_far on ebay but I have buyed some CD from him and he don't ripped me off....


Maybe next time he does it ;)

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ild
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:00 pm 
 

maybe I'll buy from other seller eheheh

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mandatory1967
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:16 pm 
 

!!!! here he is: http://www.facebook.com/BestialButcher

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mandatory1967
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:50 pm 
 

AGAIN ANOTHER FAKE COPY TO GET MONEY FOR BUYING HIS TAPES AT ID EBAY blasphereion AND HIS NEW FUCKING ACCOUNT::: http://www.ebay.com/itm/140894221432?ss ... 1423.l2649

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manes
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:33 am 
 

He has already sold the Purtenance demo a few times, definitely this guy sells fake demos, to be avoided.
I just say that I have been ripped off by at least 3 English sellers in the last 2 years and from now on I will strongly avoid them, since I think most of them are dishonest people. The first thing they do is to charge double shipping costs, the second thing is to ship a messed up cd or a fake demo (of course they send you pics of mint items), the third thing they do is to claim that the cd was perfect when it left their house or that the demo is original when it's a complete bootleg that doesn't even play.
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mandatory1967
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:02 pm 
 

AGREED, manes!! LOOK AT HERE AGAIN: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Purtenance-Avul ... 20cdfb0b9a

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mandatory1967
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:03 pm 
 

FUCK OFF!! FOR FIRST, HIGH PRICES FOR FAKES!!!! REPORT HIM TO EBAY STOP HIS MADNESS

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Absurd-Storm-of ... 20ce1b4926

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sadistik-Exekut ... 20cdf99610

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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:15 am 
 

mandatory1967 wrote:
FUCK OFF!! FOR FIRST, HIGH PRICES FOR FAKES!!!! REPORT HIM TO EBAY STOP HIS MADNESS

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Absurd-Storm-of ... 20ce1b4926

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sadistik-Exekut ... 20cdf99610


Why Dont you report it to ebay? you can use this topic as Evidence

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obscure plasma
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:22 am 
 

Grief_Of_Adoration wrote:

Why Dont you report it to ebay? you can use this topic as Evidence


TOTALLY agree.

By the way, avoid this scum, completely unreliable user!! Open WELL your eyes if you receive mails from --> lurking-fear@hotmail.com

:crash: :snipe:
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manes
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:57 pm 
 

He is on NWN as torn soul, his previous ebay id I think.
He often posts there in the demo authenticity topic, I think he buys demos and when he realizes they are fake he gets rid of them on ebay, indicating them as original. I don't think he himself makes these fake demos, but I can't be sure. Too bad anyway, since nowadays it's really really tough to get original demos of whatever band.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:03 pm 
 

here are a few i guess ...
http://www.marktplaats.nl/a/cd-s-en-dvd ... mympSeller
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mandatory1967
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:00 am 
 

ANOTHER FACEBOOK PAGE HERE http://www.facebook.com/agares.duca

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mandatory1967
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:03 am 
 

Grief_Of_Adoration wrote:
mandatory1967 wrote:
FUCK OFF!! FOR FIRST, HIGH PRICES FOR FAKES!!!! REPORT HIM TO EBAY STOP HIS MADNESS

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Absurd-Storm-of ... 20ce1b4926

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sadistik-Exekut ... 20cdf99610


Why Dont you report it to ebay? you can use this topic as Evidence


SURE I DID IT, NOTHING HAPPENED!

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mandatory1967
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:05 am 
 

obscure plasma wrote:
Grief_Of_Adoration wrote:

Why Dont you report it to ebay? you can use this topic as Evidence


TOTALLY agree.

By the way, avoid this scum, completely unreliable user!! Open WELL your eyes if you receive mails from --> lurking-fear@hotmail.com

:crash: :snipe:


AGREED!! BUT IF I'M RIGHT, HE'S ALSO USING OTHER CONTACTS

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:45 am 
 

obscure plasma wrote:
My humble opinion: here on M-A there are (I'm sure at 99,99%) serious and reliable traders/sellers only! FUCK E-GAY!!!


I got ripped off by brocashelm. It was a very unfortunate incident.
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mandatory1967
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:53 pm 
 

BEWARE!! HE'S SELLING ANOTHER FAKE ONE!!!: http://www.ebay.com/itm/140898363965?ss ... 1423.l2649
HE BOUGHT THE TAPE BY HIS OTHER ACCOUNT CALLED blasphereion: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-BASF-90 ... 7675.l2557 CHECK THIS PAGE AND LOOK HIS FEEDBACK LIST ( http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d ... world=true ) TO NOTICE WHAT I SAY!!!! RIP OFF!!!!!! HE ALSO INCREASES HIS AUCTION: LOOK AT THE SECOND BUYER!!

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mandatory1967
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:02 pm 
 

manes wrote:
He is on NWN as torn soul, his previous ebay id I think.
He often posts there in the demo authenticity topic, I think he buys demos and when he realizes they are fake he gets rid of them on ebay, indicating them as original. I don't think he himself makes these fake demos, but I can't be sure. Too bad anyway, since nowadays it's really really tough to get original demos of whatever band.


GOT THE PROOF, MAN!!

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manes
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:30 am 
 

You got it man, that guy is a son of a bitch, may he burn in hell!!!
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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:28 am 
 

That guy posted this:

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=95426

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mandatory1967
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:39 am 
 

Grief_Of_Adoration wrote:
That guy posted this:

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=95426


YEAH I'VE BEEN CHECKING IT!SPREAD THIS ALL POST EVERYWHERE TO REPORT HIS FRAUDS

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mandatory1967
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:40 am 
 

manes wrote:
You got it man, that guy is a son of a bitch, may he burn in hell!!!


AGREED!!!

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mandatory1967
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:34 am 
 

FAGGOT HIDES THE FEEDBACKS ON blasphereion. SENDED ME SOME MESSAGES. READ AND TRANSLATE ONE OF THOSE:

""AHAHAHAHA povera troia porcodio..... Credi forse che spammando su un forum ridicolo come questo riuscirai a fermarmi? Se è così ti sbagli... Strano che tu non ti sia accorta degli altri account ebay con cui sto vendendo roba al momento... A quanto pare sei troia ma non così sveglia come pensavo. Sta di fatto che ho altri 8 account a mia disposizione, perchè non provi a trovarli?!! ahahahahaahahahahahah! La frustrazione di essere una povera bagascia fallita è pesante da sopportare, eh? non è così? Sappi che molto presto riuscirò a scoprire la tua vera identità, e a quel punto saranno cazzi tuoi. Ti do la mia parola! Nel frattempo continua pure a commentare sotto ai vari post "diffamatori", così non fai altro che stare al mio gioco!""

""AHAHAHAHA poor whorish pig-god..... do you think you can stop me with spam in a ridiculous forum like this one? If you think so, you are wrong... Strange, that you didn't noticed the other ebay account I'm currently selling stuff with... You are a whore, but not as smart as I thought. Fact is, I got 8 different accounts, why don't you try and find those ones? ahahahahaahahahahahah! The frustration is hard to take for a bitch, isn't it? Isn't it? Note, that I'm able to discover your true identy, and then your damn business is over. Take my word! In the meantime, you can continue posting various slanderish comments, continue playing my game.""

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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:37 pm 
 

Stop posting in all caps, please. You've made your point.
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OK, BUT MY KEYBOARD IS BROKEN SORRY!

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