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failsafeman
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:59 pm 
 

The stupid thing is, I honestly was able to think up fairly reasonable excuses for the leaps in logic that would have made most of them fine, or at least not shit all over my suspension of disbelief. It's possible the writers had to dispense with the explanations due to time constraints I suppose, but there's one that's just utterly inexcusable. It basically shows the lead-up to where Luther needs to give a big speech to his erstwhile romantic rival to convince him he's not guilty of the crime he's been framed for, and to convince the rival to help him clear his name. It's one of those "these two guys were at odds for a long time, but their basic decency is greater than their personal rivalry" kind of situations; at that point in the show the rival is pretty much the last person you'd expect to help Luther, so that'd have to be one moving speech from Luther to get the rival to totally change his mind, right? RIGHT? Except the writers decided to just SKIP OVER THAT PART ENTIRELY. Luther has his sidekick kidnap the rival at knifepoint, bring him to this abandoned building where he's hiding from the cops, the guy flips out at seeing Luther, Luther subdues him physically without hurting him and calms him down - and then BAM it's the next scene and the rival is suddenly helping him. EXCEPT THERE'S NO REASON FOR HIM NOT TO BELIEVE LUTHER IS STILL GUILTY AS HELL. Seriously, from this guy's perspective Luther has been unstable and violent the whole time, and his sidekick has threatened him multiple times, once into WITHDRAWING A FORMAL COMPLAINT AGAINST LUTHER FOR ASSAULT. So now the rival is just magically on board? We're supposed to just assume Luther did such a good job convincing him that the rival later tells the police nothing about the incident and in fact BREAKS THE LAW to help Luther, all on Luther's say-so, THAT WE DIDN'T EVEN SEE.

Yeah, you can tell that really pissed me off. It's just sloppy as fuck, and even beyond: it's borderline insane writing, like I can't believe anyone ever gave that approval, much less a group of people.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:23 pm 
 

I'm amused and slightly (oddly) gratified that one of the characters on Treme (the journalist guy, L. P. Everett) is a metalhead. It's not just because I love the United Brotherhood of Metal (a.k.a. The Elite, a.k.a. The Chosen Carriers of the True Culture) so much, but also that it simply feels refreshing to see a character on a serious TV show that's into metal and simultaneously isn't at all some sort of caricature or juvenile stereotype. They may have included it just as a bid to round out the perception of New Orleans' musical landscape, but it was still an interesting addition.

No one ever talks about Treme here, but if y'all haven't seen it, y'all should. It'all's good.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:14 pm 
 

Okay I wanted to drop it, but .... I can't, I'm really just too baffled.

How can you claim The Wire is too boring and then praise Treme?!
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Necroticism174
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:18 pm 
 

Watched the first episode of Peep Show, as I've pretty much seen all the episodes of my favourite comedic shows and it seemed to be a pretty well liked show. All I have to say is that I laughed until it hurt. Few shows are this funny RIGHT OFF THE BAT. It's British as hell, it's awkward, and it's really dark. I sense a binge coming.
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Under_Starmere
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:01 pm 
 

Morrigan wrote:
Okay I wanted to drop it, but .... I can't, I'm really just too baffled.

How can you claim The Wire is too boring and then praise Treme?!


Maybe you didn't read what I wrote before, but I said I actually really enjoyed certain aspects of The Wire. I liked the first season a lot. It was the whole dockworker (er...just typed 'dickworker') story in the second season that lost me, plus the general hollow feeling I got from the cop side of the show. The criminal side was fantastic... but here I'm repeating myself. And I'm going to foray further into the series, so I'll be able to get a more complete experience with it. I don't doubt that I will like it more as it goes on.

Whereas The Wire just felt mostly like a cop show (albeit of the better variety, a la Prime Suspect), Treme seems like a really unique entity that doesn't remind me of much else whatsoever. It's a really rich blend of content and has a super cohesive atmosphere. I also find a lot of the characters to be simply more interesting...more amusing and better-acted.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:20 pm 
 

Some pointless zombie kill statistics for The Walking Dead. Enjoy:
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:24 pm 
 

Under_Starmere wrote:
Morrigan wrote:
Okay I wanted to drop it, but .... I can't, I'm really just too baffled.

How can you claim The Wire is too boring and then praise Treme?!


Maybe you didn't read what I wrote before, but I said I actually really enjoyed certain aspects of The Wire. I liked the first season a lot. It was the whole dockworker (er...just typed 'dickworker') story in the second season that lost me, plus the general hollow feeling I got from the cop side of the show. The criminal side was fantastic... but here I'm repeating myself. And I'm going to foray further into the series, so I'll be able to get a more complete experience with it. I don't doubt that I will like it more as it goes on.


Dude, keep watching. Every season adds a bit more perspective, and there's an epic culmination that concludes the series.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:57 pm 
 

I saw reservoir dogs on the tele yesterday. My younger brother was just playing it - he said it was on DVD or something; but who cares. So it was a good movie. Thinking back now, I recognize a lot of similarities to pulp fiction in the story telling style. Also kill bill. It was a pretty good movie - besides the part where my younger brother's group of friends he had over laughed at all the stupidest most inappropriate parts that someone could possible laugh at,
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why did the under cover cop tell that guy he was a cop in the end? He probably could have lived if he wouldn't have done that. That guy wouldn't have put the gun to his head if he didn't tell him after all
. So that's the only part I thought was kinda dumb. Over all, good movie, but I didn't think it was as good as pulp fiction or kill bill.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:23 pm 
 

Wrong thread: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=39103

This one is for TV series/shows and such, not movies.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:23 pm 
 

Haven't found a single goddamn thing on TV that interests me. Least of all kids cartoons.
Most of all, brutal anime holds my attention. Never thought I'd watch cartoons again until I saw this one really twisted piece.
There's an anime thread right?

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:25 pm 
 

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There's an anime thread right?

Jarp, in this very subforum. Hard to miss.
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shouvince
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:44 pm 
 

Are there any remaining Homeland followers who've survived until the latest episode? :-D I suppose not many but any thoughts about the season finale next Sunday?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:57 pm 
 

I still watch it. It varies between "I couldn't give a shit" (mostly the family stuff and anything involving his daughter; but also the weird romance between Brody and Carrie*) and "hah, pretty cool/exciting" (Saul!, or the pacemaker thing). It makes for acceptable entertainment for Monday lunch, though. :P

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Although those two talking in the bar and the subsequent dropping of the façade was very well done and thrilling to watch, in my opinion. It just seems forced and out-of-place now, as it appears to be genuine...
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Nahsil
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:50 am 
 

I loved the latest episode. Not sure how they're going to continue with a third season, though, if they intend to.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:54 am 
 

Yeah, I still watch but whereas I thought S1 was generally pretty solid well-written drama, S2 veers more into the goofy 24 territory, e.g. still entertaining but often stained by poor writing and insipid subplots.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:30 am 
 

Necroticism174 wrote:
Watched the first episode of Peep Show, as I've pretty much seen all the episodes of my favourite comedic shows and it seemed to be a pretty well liked show. All I have to say is that I laughed until it hurt. Few shows are this funny RIGHT OFF THE BAT. It's British as hell, it's awkward, and it's really dark. I sense a binge coming.

Keep going, it only gets better. I think it peaks around series 3/4, but the quality of the show has been amazingly consistent over every series that's run.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:53 am 
 

Jeez Necro--you're a better man than I. I might be this forum's biggest Peep Show fanboy/apologist but even I had serious difficulty making it through the first episode. The show gets leaps and bounds better by the second season, and there really isn't a single weak one until the awful first episode of the seventh season. Thankfully, as of midway through the eighth season, that's the only other less-than-ideal ep.

Also, be sure to check out Fresh Meat, from the same creators and featuring a few of the same actors. Different from, but equal to Peep Show. Also of note is the sketch-comedy That Mitchell and Webb Look as well as the Telenova parody Bad Sugar both from the same writers and many of the same actors. Actually, Bad Sugar can be watched on YouTube in two parts: Part One and Part Two. This is the only episode produced so far, but there's a full season due out next year. Peter Serafinowicz may actually have Matt Berry beaten for Greatest Voice Ever... and I do not say that lightly.
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Necroticism174
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:11 am 
 

I've pretty much seen every episode now. Jeez, is there a better character than Super Hans in ANYTHING? Any time he's on screen it's funny. Brilliant, really. I don't think the first season was bad at all, and overall there were only 2 or 3 episodes of slightly lesser quality (didn't really dig the Christmas episode in series 7, for one.) I don't really like Dobby either. I think she was fine when she was first introduced but now she's just meh. Just sort of there, not particularly funny. I saw one episode of The Mitchell and Webb Look too, it was hit and miss as sketch comedy tends to be. The Bmx guy and angel summoner crime fighting team bit was awesome though.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:14 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
I still watch it. It varies between "I couldn't give a shit" (mostly the family stuff and anything involving his daughter; but also the weird romance between Brody and Carrie*) and "hah, pretty cool/exciting" (Saul!, or the pacemaker thing). It makes for acceptable entertainment for Monday lunch, though. :P


Yeah, I pretty much watch because of continuity. I'd rather want to get into newer/other shows like the ones mentioned here but it requires a lot of effort and time. Maybe over the holidays.

From what it looks like, Quinn has a heart after all huh. Also, it's quite predictable but I think the next episode will introduce another terrorist/villain for the sake of a S3.

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Necroticism174
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:58 pm 
 

Hahaha, the new episode of Peep Show. It had so much Super Hans. Him snorting speed and yelling SUPER HANS as he charged was a brilliant moment.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:05 pm 
 

Watching Superjail....holy moly. The animation on this show is absolutely spectacular.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:50 am 
 

Does anyone around here know if Vegas is any good? I just a trailer for it and it caught my attention, and I was thinking about checking it out. But I don't want to get into an absolute shit-fest, so I'd like some feedback. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:14 am 
 

PhilosophicalFrog wrote:
Watching Superjail....holy moly. The animation on this show is absolutely spectacular.

It is pretty unique and interesting. Out of that wave of animated shows i did find it to have somewhat of a curious tone to it. I dunno, though. Ugly Americans, Superjail and all those shows, seem to exhibit flashes of originality sometimes, but don' seem to be captivating enough to have me pulled in or addicted. Like i'd watch the show as it came out, downloading it ASAP, or rewatching episodes semi-regularly.
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Slaytanic55 wrote:
Does anyone around here know if Vegas is any good? I just a trailer for it and it caught my attention, and I was thinking about checking it out. But I don't want to get into an absolute shit-fest, so I'd like some feedback. Thanks.


It's not absolute crap, to be sure. But it is quite filled with clichés and a lot of the characters and their plots seem a bit too uninteresting and predictable to keep following. It won't take you, but an hour or two to check a couple of episodes. You'll get the gist of it at that point.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:48 am 
 

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Slaytanic55 wrote:
Does anyone around here know if Vegas is any good? I just a trailer for it and it caught my attention, and I was thinking about checking it out. But I don't want to get into an absolute shit-fest, so I'd like some feedback. Thanks.


It's not absolute crap, to be sure. But it is quite filled with clichés and a lot of the characters and their plots seem a bit too uninteresting and predictable to keep following. It won't take you, but an hour or two to check a couple of episodes. You'll get the gist of it at that point.


I'll check it out then, I usually end up watching anything that has to do with the mafia anyways, especially their involvement in Las Vegas and casinos. A bit off topic, but I also just watched Casino. Great movie, in my top 5.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:38 am 
 

Working on season three of The Wire and season one of Babylon 5. I can't wait for B5 to get better, which everyone says it does. It has potential, but god is some of this shit cheesy and campy as fuck. I just keep repeating to myself: TNG season 1, TNG season 1, TNG season 1.
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Nope. B5 is dogshit. Don't waste your time. Just watch the new Battlestar Galactica again. You'll be better for it.
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Nahsil wrote:
Working on season three of The Wire and season one of Babylon 5. I can't wait for B5 to get better, which everyone says it does. It has potential, but god is some of this shit cheesy and campy as fuck. I just keep repeating to myself: TNG season 1, TNG season 1, TNG season 1.


I tried that, couldn't stick it out though; I ended up watching later episodes out of order and they appeared to be just as bad to me, so I gave up. So, yeah, agreed^: watch BG instead - life's too short for second rate sci-fi. Or, at least, second rate sci-fi series that have more than a couple of seasons.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:18 am 
 

I previously tried to watch season one and didn't make it, but I have a couple friends who say it improves dramatically and claim that it's some of the best TV scifi.

Gehhh. Might as well stick it out until season two, since I'm already part of the way through one.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:59 pm 
 

I didn't get Babylon 5 myself. I remember watching the first season, then giving up on it. It was very ambitious for a television series, and the producers should be commended for at least that. But it was like they left the back story and location to be the neat sci-fi part, and otherwise wrote mundane scripts. I feel the same way about Firefly - yes it's a neat idea, but that's not enough. You have to write good scripts too.

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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:39 pm 
 

....Don't you dare compare Firefly to the abysmally written and abysmally acted trainwreck that is Babylon 5... :nono:

And yeah, I'm still in the early S3 of B5 and it's still dreadfully acted and written and it's often embarrassing to watch. How did this show ever get such acclaim? People say it becomes so epic and awesome in late S2 and S3, but late S2 was only a bit more tolerable than the dreadful S1, and S3 so far is seemingly worse than S3 (except for the addition of Marcus Cole, but that might be my estrogen talking).

That said, while BSG isn't as campy and badly acted, it also pretty much sucks too. :P Gaius Balthar and his stupid bimbo can both DIAF. Worst characters ever.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:23 pm 
 

Actually, even better than watching B5 or re-watching new BSG; Space: Above and Beyond is where it's at. It may only be 24 episodes, but they're damn fine, especially towards the end. It's unreal how much BSG blatantly pillaged so much of that show...
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Speaking of BSG, I'm enjoying the new web series Blood and Chrome. Good way to pass the time. Thankfully it's better than Caprica.
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The Homeland season finale was pretty solid. A lot better than the Dexter one, that's for sure!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:55 am 
 

darkeningday wrote:
Nope. B5 is dogshit. Don't waste your time. Just watch the new Battlestar Galactica again. You'll be better for it.


Total nonsense. Taken as a whole, B5 is the best sci-fi you're going to get on TV. And I'm a Trek fan.

What I've seen of BSG was incredibly dull and dross.

And who the hell cares about campy acting? "Campy" is a valid criticism of just about anything BUT sci-fi.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:07 am 
 

lolcano.

Wait, you're serious? You're actually serious.

Dafuq.

Awe yeah maaan, dat Bruce Boxleitner is a real paragon of acting. And J. Michael Straczynski, himself a fifth-rate TV-writer behind such notable achievements as the short lived Masters of the Universe TV spin-off, is one hell of a writer, totally not just plagiarizing large chunks of LOTR and Star Trek and sewing in a few of the most forced historical and literary references ever seen in a science fiction TV show.

How you can like Mike Leigh films and bottom-feeding, derivative shit like this boggles my mind.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:01 am 
 

Hmm I'm agreeing with darkeningday, maybe I should revisit B5.... :P

Aw hell even a broken clock is right twice a day. :D
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:33 am 
 

I had to stop watching BSG once they started introducing the heavily spiritual angle. Like, I don't mind at all if there are religious themes in the show, or certain characters are religious, or a religious organization is an important part of the series; but it just makes me fucking angry when the real world ends up catering to religious magical thinking via massive coincidences, and the rational skeptics are left looking like dopes for not 'having faith' that some utterly stupid and risky plan would work.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:40 am 
 

Uhhhh, this is sort of the spoiler to end all spoilers, but since it sounds like you've already given up on the show...

Spoiler: show
The "god/gods" are just super advanced alien lifeform(s) that preside(s) over the seeding of new planets and life in the universe.


And of course the show does a way, way better job of explaining it than I, but it actually *is* mostly entirely explained. Except for Starbuck; that's the show's single loose end and, by extension, weakness. Ronald D. Moore is a "devout" athiest, as are all of the show's writers and most of its cast. It hardly caters to religious people. At absolute worst, its themes are essentially agnostic.
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