And those two Youtube links seem to confirm this.

Alhadis...
here is a link showing a pic of the demos, i resubmitted the other day...just not sure if i put the links in the correct spot...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

we are on our second batch of 25 each of a 4 song cd demo...
thanks...

That photo is private.

sorry man...
this should work!

excuse me, why i can't add my band?
my band name "Asstraffic" from Thailand

www.myspace.com/asstrafficthai,
www.facebook.com/asstrafficgrind

thank

Your band was judged to be noisegrind, too similar to Anal Cunt. Sorry.

i dont understand why we were still ejected?!? isnt this proof of a physical release?

The moderator who rejected it didn't know about your post here. Your submission only had the inaccessible FB link. That's why you should always include such pictures in the submission as well. Staff members aren't aware of everything going on in here at all times.

The band is now in the queue again and I see you've included the pic. Now all you have to do is be patient.

Hello,

This band (http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Tha ... 3540354485) has been rejected because "Not predominantly metal. The band was judged to be more ambient/acoustic/synth-based than metal overall.".

I ask you to reconsider your decision. Perhaps you have not listened to the correct release? I am not certain. Whilst it does have acoustic and synth parts and often breaks conventions within doom, I would say that this is predominantly funeral doom metal. Particularly The Aeneid and The Gate are good examples. Some songs are extremely long, and if you have not listened to the music in full, I urge you to please do, as funeral doom is not a genre of music that can be quickly listened to per se.

I would also like to point out that The Journey and The Sniper are spin-offs and not the actual direction of the band. Rather than making a separate side-project for the releases, Thaddaeus felt that it was still appropriate for these to be Thaddaeus releases, as they still fell under a consistent concept.

The albums are downloadable from the official site;
http://jarrydtheodorebird.com.au/index/ ... /thaddaeus

Thanks.

The Mystick Krewe of Clearlight haven't been mentioned here since 2009 and the rules on side projects have changed since then so I'm bringing them up for re-evaluation. They are heavily tied into a prominent metal scene and though they're not a really prominent band as they were short-lived, I think they qualify as one of those bands that's part of a significant scene.

If anyone is unfamiliar with the band, it's a NOLA stoner rock band with guys from Down/EHG/etc (three members in major bands). They have three releases - splits with Acid King and The Obsessed, and a full-length on Tee Pee Records from 2000, before TPR had extensive distribution. TPR now has major distribution but the TMKOC album is OOP. New material is surfacing on Phil Anselmo's Housecore Records, but only a song on a v/a comp so far.

You can check out their lineup on this release: http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Ac ... moke/46043

hi administration.
blackthrone - metal band!
yes, and also publishes the ambient and neoclassic but overall it is a metal band.
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bla ... 3540355528

I understand all about borderline bands, i'll pay more attention, asking in the forum when i have a minimal dubt.

I would like to ask about a side-project composed by members of metal bands. The bands is Ajinai and they're form China. The music is mongolian folk and it will be great having them here as the first asian non-metal side-project! The label is Big Mic Records, not a metal label but very important in China, something like Prophecy Productions or Season of Mist in Europe. There's an error in the links, because the members of Ego Fall are still present in the band (despite there's written ex-) and you can verify on Ego Fall page.
- http://www.rockinchina.com/w/Ajinai
- http://www.rockinchina.com/w/Ego_Fall
- http://www.rockinchina.com/w/Ajinai_(Ajinai)
- http://www.bigmic.cn/news.htm

Are they notable? Are they a part of the metal scene?

Honestly lads, stop trying to find excuses to get non-metal into the Archive. Non-metal projects are considered exceptions for a reason, and that reason is because they're not meant to be accepted and dealt with willy-nilly. If it's not a user trying to get their non-metal project into the Archive, because they've exhausted all other routes to getting accepted, then it's posts asking us about non-metal projects in a thread designed to discuss the rejection/deletion of bands already handled in the queue. Focus on metal, it's what this Archive exists to do.

Thaddaeus is not a non-metal band and yes, it is involved in the metal scene doing gigs with other metal bands, getting played on metal radio shows, inspired by doom metal bands and most of the fan base being a doom metal fan base. Yes, it does take influence from classical and progressive music, but that doesn't make it predominantly non-metal. Whilst there are not many doom metal acts in little Perth, Western Australia, Thaddaeus is considered to be a notable doom metal act within the local area. The band is trying to stretch out his wings and has not promoted himself as sufficiently as he could have. The original reason for rejection was because there was no indication of a physical release, but evidence has now been supplied of this. The physical release is also a funeral doom metal release.

I wished to get a page on metal archives because the band is a doom metal act and it would be the first place an interested listener would look for details about the band.

If you need evidence of gigs at a metal show or with other metal bands, this can be supplied. Also, in the near future, hopefully there will be a few metal reviews from notable magazines that are part of the metal scene.

Can you provide a link so we can listen to it? Also, a proof of physical release. You can send me the album in PM or on my email if you want, I'll check the metalness. I write reviews from time to time too!

Yes. The link to the latest album The Aeneid, which is also a physical release, is here. http://jarrydtheodorebird.com.au/index/ ... /thaddaeus
Scroll to the bottom of the page to find it. Most of the other albums are metal too, except for The Sniper and The Journey, which as noted earlier, were spin-offs to the actual direction of the band.

Also, look at the official site present at this point, I can see how it doesn't look like it is within the genre of metal. A new site is currently in the works, new imagery and a domain name specifically for the band.

Evidence of this as a physical release is here;

http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz28 ... neid1.jpeg

http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz28 ... neid2.jpeg

If you find that the download server is too slow due to it being an Australian server/not within your country, I can send it as a .rar file either to your email or upload it elsewhere.

A review would be greatly appreciated too.

Thanks. I'll check this tomorrow.

Ajinai is composed by notable metal members (Ego Fall, Voodoo Kungfu), it is a part of metal scene and they play gigs with metal bands, if you want, just verify
- http://www.rockinchina.com/w/Ajinai

Hi There,

A Question here for the moderators.

In the decreasing climate for new band we are searching for a way to do things cheaper and different.
My new band is releasing internet only music, we create a song and release it via youtube.
Is it possible to add our band?

Yes we are metal and all of our members in the band are noted on this website

Check. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFanp4d ... ature=plcp) for proof!

No. This has been discussed to death numerous times before; and while I'm sorry to hear your band is too broke to afford a basic pressing of CDrs, trying to use the "we're too poor, can we still come in?" appeal isn't going top accomplish anything.

There HAS been some discussion of amending the physical release rule to accommodate bands with valid, digital discographies... but I really, really wouldn't be holding your breath for that to happen any time soon...

I think a change has too be made, otherwise Metal Archives is just as ignorant as most record companies.
We all try to think up new ways to get our music heard.

Thanks for the reply though!

Mate, listen... in the past, we've had numerous digital/bedroom/MySpace bands record one or two mp3s and then call it quits. Can you imagine how difficult it'd be to manage discography listings of bands whose "releases" have no set/concrete tracklist? Furthermore, who's going to remember said bands in, say, 50 years time when none of their original recordings show up in an op shop, or what-have-you?

Granted, that's a rather hyperbolic way of looking at it, but that's pretty much the underlying principle of the PR rule; that, and trying to keep the site from being inundated with floods of one-off, half-arsed bedroom bands...

Also, we're by no means asking you to fork a massive wad of dough from your pockets and pay for a 1,000+ copy pressing/pro-duplication. Something as simple as a run of 50 CDrs with hand-made inserts is enough to show us that your band is serious about distributing music on a permanent, physical medium.

Thanks Metantoine.

I agree fully, it is a labyrinth and idiotic bands have fucked it up for the ones that are sincerely working on their reputation.

As you can see on my post counter i am merely using this site as a reference site and looking up history.
So in that light, my question was made. I been in bands for over 25 years (funeral winds & liar of golgotha) and i was wondering how to update my own 'history'

Dude. Please. For the last and final time, give it up... I doubt anybody outside of China has even heard of those bands, let alone the members. Yeah, they might be notable in their local scene, but a band member should ideally be recognised in the global metal scene for them to be regarded as influential enough. That's how the "label with worldwide distribution" guideline came into being in the first place - artists usually get signed to such big labels only after they've gathered a considerable amount of renown.

And mate, seriously, if you're that desperate for bands to submit, try browsing the Facebooks of newly added bands and search around for any shout-outs or tags that the band members have given to the bands of their local scene. Subscribe to the pages of new bands and wait for news of a release. Hell, even inbox them and ask if there was a physical pressing at one stage. You'd be surprised just how many bands actually *have* released something basic and physical, but never bothered to mention it in a bio...

I appreciate the rules of the forum, and I can understand that you have to draw the line somewhere. However I have a suggestion, Has the founders of the forum considered. Setting up a sister site to accommodate all those spin off bands, that are a little ambiguous when looking at how metal they are or not as the case maybe. So Metal Archives would not stray from metal acts, but with another site would widen the database with bands that in some form or other had links to Metal.

Hello guys, this is my case: I submitted a band, Toxovibora, ( http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Tox ... 3540355344 ) which was once rejected because there was no physical proof of their distribution. That's ok, my fault.

But, I finally found proof, and re-submitted the band, adding the link to a store where you can buy the cd. The link is not to the store index page, but to the specific album itself. Here's the link:
http://www.spaindeathmetal.com/index.ph ... egory_id=7

The band was rejected again, and I got the following message (and lost about 20 points): "The link to the CD for sale is not working. Resubmit with working links."


Can any moderator, please, check the link again? I do have checked it and it is working. In any case, if you go to http://www.spaindeathmetal.com/ , clic "discografica" (label), and search "toxovibora", you get to the page to buy the cd. But, I repeat, this is not necessary because the submitted link IS working.

I hope this can be solved, it is not a question of not following the rules, it is just the problem with the link. By the way, if finally it was proved that the link was working and the band was accepted, would I get my 20 penalization points back? Honestly, I think that was not my fault.

Regards.

That's what I'm trying to figure out. There is several beyond several deathcore bands on this site that sound not near as death metal as Signal the Firing Squad. STFS should definitely be added as they are an extreme metal band. Their whole new album can be heard (in one video) here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn4PcxLrcfw

And also to prove that they have a physical release of this album; here it is being sold as a CD on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Signal-The-Firi ... 20cca28147

I'll take a look at it later tonight when I get back to my house.

@Fuegofatuo: I've restored the band. The 20 points you lost are kind of weird, though. I will ask the mod who rejected it about that.

EDIT: You should have your points back now. Sorry about that.

Yeah, it was me who rejected that band... The link wasn't working. I tried it in the three computers I have at the office and it didn't work in any of them. This time, the link you posted here does work, so feel free to resubmit. And I didn't take 20 points from you. It was less than that.

EDIT: Nevermind, Azmodes already accepted them.

Thanks to both of you, guys

Alhadis is on to that

Yep, the Tome of Noise.

Cool when is this likely the be up and running?

Not any time soon, mate... Though I encourage anybody here to save the drafts of any bands rejected for being noise/grind/drone/dark ambient/crust/deathcore, etc... Rest assured, let no research go unacknowledged.

Cheers I shall bear that in mind.

I submitted an Irish band, Dark_Matter a while ago which was rejected as their first EP wasn't deemed to be metal enough (the use of synths was frowned upon) and their album was still only on pre-release.

I was told to re-submit once the album was officially released, which it is now.
http://darkmatter.bigcartel.com/

The album, and the EP for that matter, are more than acceptable metal releases.
Please review the submission again.

We went through this a while back. There is a tech death influence there, but it isn't the driving force of the band, the djenty stuff and the -core influence is. "Djent" is a subject of much debate but based on this site's guidelines (and my belief as well), it is NOT a subsect of metal and is instead its own thing. Ergo djent bands != MA acceptable. Earth Harvest has more metal in it than Abnegate, and neither of them are acceptable. They're borderline, but no dice.

And if there are other bands on the site that are less metal, please feel free to point them out so we can erase our silly mistake, because they do happen.

Okay, I understand the physical release rules in most instances...but my band has released its first digital only EP. Our release is sold on all the major digital distro sites, why does this make us less legitimate than someone who printed 100 copies of a CD-R?