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Scourge441
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:58 pm 
 

Christian Alvestam was the only thing worth listening to in Scar Symmetry. Now that he's gone they've turned to complete crap.

nosferatu1234 wrote:
how about Warning - Watching From a Distance

Without Patrick Walker's vocals, that album would be boring as fuck. It's really the highlight of the album. Tho there's plenty of people out there who don't like the vocals, it took me awhile to get into them but now I really like them.

I wouldn't go so far as to say it'd be boring, but I do think the style they played on that album needed Patrick Walker to really be effective.

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BasqueStorm
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:41 pm 
 

grauer_mausling wrote:
well, I don't "care" about those on DMDS. Can't really say why. When the whole 2nd wave BM started I was fully into it and as such DMDS was kind of omni-present so to say. I just never cared about the album apart from the song "Funeral Fog" and liking Attila's weird vocals. With all those "starting albums" of the 2nd wave at hand (tape ;) ), DMDS was my least liked... Of course it's historical and infleuncing position is undoubtly, it was just not "my" album. That's all...

Ok, I understand.
And what about Thorns?

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Mayhem1349
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:47 pm 
 

I really think without Joey Belladonna Anthrax wouldnt of been the band it is, Joey Belladonnas vocals are in my opinion the best in thrash metal and without his influence Anthrax wouldnt of made classic albums such as Persistence of Time or classics like Among the Living and Spreading the Disease wouldnt of sounded right with John Bush or Neil Turbin. As soon as John Bush joined the band, they turned to shit, its even more obvious of there re-recording with John Bush just absolutely turning classic songs into pieces of shit!

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grauer_mausling
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Joined: Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:00 am
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:33 pm 
 

BasqueStorm wrote:
grauer_mausling wrote:
well, I don't "care" about those on DMDS. Can't really say why. When the whole 2nd wave BM started I was fully into it and as such DMDS was kind of omni-present so to say. I just never cared about the album apart from the song "Funeral Fog" and liking Attila's weird vocals. With all those "starting albums" of the 2nd wave at hand (tape ;) ), DMDS was my least liked... Of course it's historical and infleuncing position is undoubtly, it was just not "my" album. That's all...

Ok, I understand.
And what about Thorns?


a friend of mine had a demo of Thorns and I think also (later) the Emperor/Thorns split but for whatever reason Thorns it never made it's way onto a tape of mine and years/decades later (now ;) ) they/he had long fallen off my radar. My personal fave back then were early Ensöaved, Emperor, Satyricon (first two albums), DarkThrone, Ulver, Dødheimsgard (Kronet...), Ulver, the first Borknagar, In Thw Woods..., early Ancient (Det glemte riket), Kvist and (yes, I'm not ashamed to admit, aha) Dimmu's first album.
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nosferatu1234
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:24 pm 
 

Scourge441 wrote:
nosferatu1234 wrote:
how about Warning - Watching From a Distance

Without Patrick Walker's vocals, that album would be boring as fuck. It's really the highlight of the album. Tho there's plenty of people out there who don't like the vocals, it took me awhile to get into them but now I really like them.

I wouldn't go so far as to say it'd be boring, but I do think the style they played on that album needed Patrick Walker to really be effective.


Well, for me personally, it probably would be boring. I'm not much of a doom fan other than a select few bands here and there. It has to be something that is different and really stands out for me to enjoy them, and Walker's vocals definitely do that for me. Without them I probably wouldn't like the album much at all.
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t1337Dude
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:58 pm 
 

Phlegeton has got some amazingly crazy exhaled pig squeels. Anything he's touched relating to Human Mincer or Wormed is some of the most brutal (and entertaining) vocal work I've ever heard. I feel like he took what Lord Worm did for death metal vocals and cranked it up to a metaphorical 11. I have a hard time picturing these vocals coming out of somebody's mouth, yet Phlegeton seems to delivery them equally as well when playing live.

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joppek
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:03 am 
 

type o negative anyone?

i'd say the rage nucléaire album as a whole was pretty mediocre and worm's vocals were by far the best thing about it

anaal nathrakh was already mentioned and i definitely agree with that, and will throw !t.o.o.h.! in the same category of "over the top vocals that are hugely important to the whole"

as for cleaner stuff - i doubt i'd listen to much of the gathering if it wasn't for anneke's vocals... same for a lot of devin townsend's material

then there are mokoma and stam1na, which not only have great vocals, but as they have finnish lyrics, it's also quite important for them to have great lyrics (for any finn to like them that is), since it can be a pretty hard language to write good lyrics in (usually you end up with something really corny)


also, while i'm usually not a grammar nazi...
Mayhem1349 wrote:
I really think without Joey Belladonna Anthrax wouldnt of been the band it is, Joey Belladonnas vocals are in my opinion the best in thrash metal and without his influence Anthrax wouldnt of made classic albums such as Persistence of Time or classics like Among the Living and Spreading the Disease wouldnt of sounded right with John Bush or Neil Turbin. As soon as John Bush joined the band, they turned to shit, its even more obvious of there re-recording with John Bush just absolutely turning classic songs into pieces of shit!

wouldn't have
(i do agree about belladonna/anthrax)
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