Terri23 wrote:
I'm gonna call you out here Riffs. I think you're talking shit. Cite a few sources about Painkiller being recorded in parts
I'm not sure why you're asking this (since that's got little to do with the post you quoted) but unless Halford has multiple throats he uses to sing simulatenously, you can hear different voice tracks throughout the record, including the title song.
That's not a knock on Halford. Major artists who have money and hire producers like Chris Tsangarides would be crazy not to do so. And the whole purpose of going DDD is precisely to make that whole process of cutting, pasting and assembling tracks easier. There was no other logical reason to record digitally in 1990 BTW, as the actual recording lost a bit of warmth due to that technology not being very advanced at that time.
Terri23 wrote:
To add to this conversation, I'm simply going to cite age. It's affected every singer who's been around for any length of time. Eric Adams, Ian Gillan, James Hetfield, Bruce Dickinson, Tom Araya, and anyone else who's been around long enough. No doubt Halford's fast lifestyle didn't help, but simply put someone in their 40's just can not sound like he did in his 20's night after night.
That's true. A male singer who takes care of his voice and uses proper training will apparently hit his prime between 40 and 45 years old. Hard rock and metal singers seem to be pushing the envelope a lot more and a lot of them experience an earlier decline. That seems to vary a lot depending on singers. For instance Hetfield went down the drain quickly but Ronnie James Dio was recording Holy Diver at 42. His singing had changed but he could still kick ass. There are varying degrees of decline and changes to the voice and that's what is really important. I saw Eric Adams live when he was around 50 years old and he was still pretty damn good, he is gracefully declining. In contrast, Geoff Tate went down the shitter pretty fast and is almost insufferable.
The thing is, IMO you are better off setting realistic expectation in the studio because you have to live up to that material on tour. That's where I think Halford set the bar a bit too high in studio with albums like Ram It Down and Painkiller. He killed his voice trying to sing those songs night after night on tour. Those songs rocked, but it made him decline pretty suddenly.
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mjollnir wrote:
Noble Beast's debut album is way beyond MOST of what Priest did in the 80s.