Any brit watch the first episode of the second series of Fresh Meat? It just finished airing.

While I didn't much like it at first, Fresh Meat became my absolute top pick for 2011. I've never before seen pathos woven so elegantly into Peep Show-style comedy. It's an absolutely brilliant show.

I just finished the fourth episode and I'm ready to give up on it. It's become incredibly repetitive and tiresome. I really dislike the way everything degrades into an argument and how someone has to stay or leave, kill or be killed. I grow bored of the flash back scenes that occur in every episode and how things don't add up but get more complex with unnecessary twists.

Well, that's Lost for you though, isn't it? Flashbacks to give the appearance of giving illuminating backstory, while actually confusing things. Then 7 seasons later, it turns out they were dead, which the internet figured out 15 minutes after the first episode. In between a lot of advertising was sold. The end.

Regarding Revolution, my "15 minutes later" theory is that a GRB happend somewhere in the universe and fried Earth. The keyfob thingies are nuclear isomer batteries. Google it. I guess we'll find out in 7 years...

The new show Grimm has gotten a little boring for me, as most cop type shows usually do.

The Big bang Theory is definitely my new favorite sitcom, as most of the others just plain suck.

I am glad Family Guy got away from the gore they had in season 10 (9?). They are going back to what worked within the first 4 seasons.

I am pretty fond of "Hardcore Pawn", "Hollywood treasure", "Impractical Jokers", and "Star Trek, TNG" (even if old).

Can't they come up with a new Star Trek TV series (Enterprise sucked) or MST3K????

Ever seen Cinematic Titanic? It's the old crew (Joel, Trace, Frank, Mary Jo, and even Josh Weinstein) doing what they do best, riffing the shit out of bad movies. Forget rifftrax, which is just snarking at good movies.

CT started with a studio silhouette concept, just like MST3K. But they also did a live tour, and soon just started taping the live shows. Which are awesome, by the way. Catch one as soon as you can. I don't think they'll be doing this forever.

Go to their website, buy their DVDs. There's like a dozen to choose from.

No but I will check it out!

Now I feel like I've done my good deed for the day.

The Twilight films are "good movies", now?

Anyways, the season premiere of It's Always Sunny was hilarious, this should be a great season. Still the funniest show on TV.

Didn't even know they did the Twilight films. Those deserved it. Mostly I'm just a little miffed that they did the Lord of the Rings movies.

Well they aren't all dead at the end so clearly you never paid attention to show.

They were very much dead with regards to the "flash-sideways", actually. Anyway, Lost fucking sucks, and if you watched it, don't start, it's a marketing gimmick bordering on fraud, really. They introduce mysterious plot elements with promises to resolve them, but they even admitted (later, of course) that they had no idea what they meant and were purely there to hook viewers. The ending is unsurprisingly complete garbage.

Yeah they're dead in the flash-sideways but all the Island events happened and they were alive then which is what gets most people confused. The flash-sideways are just after events when they're finally all dead, whether because of the Island, or after events (old age ect). Anyway, Lost is good. It seems to be cool to hate Lost though. Regardless of it's problems and unexplained mysteries, I still enjoyed it. Most tv shows are make-it-up-as-you-go-along but only Lost seems to get flak for it.

Because most TV shows don't promise answers to the mysteries and don't introduce said mysteries in the first place simply to hook viewers and get ratings, only to simply drop the ball and go "lol sorry I have no clue I just made random shit up that sounded mysterious". Also, Lost started out cool in S1, but the writing turned to shit very fast even when not counting the glaring plot holes, where most of the characters became annoying and insufferable instead of interesting and sympathetic.

Lost is absolute garbage and I would not recommend it to anyone. Even relatively banal (but always mildly and consistently entertaining) procedurals like The Mentalist or Castle are more worth watching than Lost.

Well agree to disagree. I personally loved Lost.

So, The Walking Dead premiere.

Yeah, I was surprised too. Out of all the TV shows I follow, TWD is the one I actually dislike, but want it to be good so I keep watching... and last night's episode was pretty solid, better than the normally superior TV shows I watch who had subpar episodes (Dexter and Homeland). The only small stain was
Not sure what you mean about swords, but if you meant that the black lady is not holding or using it properly, then I concur... then again sword use/fighting is hardly ever portrayed accurately on TV, so meh, I can let that slide.


Homeland is turning into later-era 24 (i.e. contrived and silly) with this latest episode. Other than the Carrie/Saul arc (mostly the episode ending), it was pretty terrible.

I'm pretty sure we haven't.

"swords are fucking stupid"?

Yeah, I don't really get that... in a zombie apocalypse, swords would be fairly useful, especially to save limited ammo.

The thing I'm excited for in TWD is that we're finally going to get a real villain.

Yeah, you know there are scientific rules for how zombiism transmits.

Obviously I was asking about the TV series's in-universe law of "zombiism", you smartass.

Ok so I avoided reading this thread because I didn't get to watch the Walking Dead when it aired. Welcome to my new life without cable tv because I live in the boonies and there are no cable companies out here right now. My dad recorded it for me though (on VHS!) and I just finished watching it.


Edit: added spoiler

Zombification mechanics from TWD

Great episode IMO, lots of action, lots of violence. I really like the prison setting as well.

Telling from the season 3 trailer you're going to be disappointed.


Well, I think EssexCounty knows that. I assume they took it with them afterwards regardless? The scene was just supposed to show Rick's frustration and anger with the lack of progress and you-know-what.

And yeah, I liked the episode too. Basically because it was more dead and less t/walking.

I suppose I wont be disappointed, I just wish she would die. She will probably add an element of drama this season therefor I'm sure they will keep her. I haven't seen the season 3 trailer nor scenes for next week.. guess I could go look for those now.

And not sure how, but I definitely missed that it was dog food. One of my childhood friends ate dog food a lot.. the smell makes me ill personally though.

Can someone explain to me what is so great about The Walking Dead? Is it the story-lines or the characters or whatever?

It's not great at all...

People like zombies and The Walking Dead is a fairly serious treatment of the subject. Not a lot of competition, especially on TV. That's why it's popular. The comic is a lot better.

Thank you... everyone seems to have a huge hard on for that show but past the first 2 episodes i couldn't really get into it. If I want zombies I'll watch Romero, Fulci, etc.

I don't like it. I don't like any current, recent or near future live action action-drama. If you need to know that someone doesn't like some generic action-drama that's currently popular, just remember me.

It's fucking awful, imo. Watched about a dozen episodes, assuming that it absolutely must get less atrocious as it went on. Never happened.

If you're chomping on the bit for a non-shit zombie TV show, check out Charlie Brooker's underrated Dead Set. Now that's how you make a thoughtful zombie show!

So basically, it's just like that Twilight-Vampire trend, right? Someone makes a book (or comic in this case), in which became popular enough to get it's own movie(s) or TV show. It becomes popular in the Mainstream culture. And in two or three years, it's popularity would eventually die off.

No wonder I don't watch television anymore.

It's one of those shows that I watch in hopes of it getting better.

The thing is that the TV show tries to be like the comic book but the writers are so bad it feels contrived in execution. Just like the TV show, The Walking Dead comics are more about exploring themes of leadership, living in a hunter-gatherer society, and development of relationships between characters than the zombies. The title The Walking Dead actually refers to the humans and their impending death. In fact, the zombies are just plot device for advancing the story.

What the TV show does wrong is that it all feels forced. In the comics, the dialogue is effective without being tedious at all and the conflicts between the characters are realistic (i.e you don't read the comics and wonder why the fuck they're arguing over something). In the TV show, they let conflicts drag on longer than they should (pretty much every conflict involving Lori for example).

The premier of season 3 is pretty good (mostly for the action) but they still can't seem to get the drama, characters in particular, right. It really sucks hearing show watchers say that want certain comic book favorites to die. The quality difference of the characters between the two universes is so drastic.

Usually for me, games trump TV every time. I'd rather play games than just sit and watch some show. It's boring to me.

But lately The Wire has been dominating all my free time. Over some really good games too, like Deus Ex and Dishonored.

I'm 2/3s into Season 3.

Right now Cutty is my favorite character. When he tells Avon to me that was so badass. It was the right thing to do for one. That makes him a respectful character. And that took some balls. He took all the heat and just flat out told the truth to Avon.

Omar's rising too. I like him more and more. He could obviously see something was wrong with He knew it was wrong and he wanted nothing to do with it. He's the only one to catch on.

Marlo's clever too, but I just see him as a lesser Omar for right now.

Out of the cops Bunk is my favorite. That one private conversation with him and Omar. Oh man he overshadowed even Omar and seemed cooler than Omar at that moment.

Cutty's the one to beat though. He's the one I'm rooting for most.

The Wire is barely even television; it's just so much better than almost all other TV crime-dramas out there.

I'd also encourage you check out the early seasons of The Shield and Homicide: Life on the Street. While they're not quite as good as The Wire, they're still light years ahead of most police procedural(ish) television. Recommended.


Two episodes in to Fresh Meat and I'm already set to call the current series "comedy of the year"... again.

I'm not quite sure if it's better than its creators other productions (Peep Show, The Thick of It), but it's definitely on par. If you have Channel 4, you're basically committing a crime if you're not watching it.

Oh man isn't that the truth. The 2nd to the last episode of Season 3 of The Wire. Biggest spoiler ever. I mean........

It's like Game of Thrones with you know who. You're expecting them to get out alive somehow at the last minute. But nothing happens.

But yeah you're right. The Wire isn't TV. TV isn't bold. TV gives you happy emotions and likable characters. If it gives you negative emotions TV throws in a silver lining to take the edge off. Cause TV is nice like that. TV knows we like routine so it gives us familiar characters and throws out lots of tropes.

I don't like TV but I like The Wire. Therefore The Wire isn't TV

I just finished American Horror Story premiere. I did like the first season.. though it wasn’t great and definitely was overrated, I still kept up with it. My expectations were low because I didn’t like the end of season one but the first episode last night was weak at best. The whole asylum thing is always boring, cliché, and the same as every other asylum show/movie. I doubt I will watch this season… but I’ll give a few more episodes a chance. The pro of the episode, the cast. I like the returning people so far and I didn’t know Chloe Sevigny was going to be on the show this season. I’ve always liked her from Kids and American Psycho.

So yea, that’s what I thought… nothing special. I liked it less than I liked the first episode of Revolution :/

Arrow: I try to not give up on a show based on the first episode but I'll be damned if I don't abandon this wreck. Number 1, the rich kid/man serves justice origin has been done to death and it's really hard to feel sympathetic for a spoilt brat no matter if he has good intentions. Secondly, I find the dialogue and acting to be soap opera drivel at best and moments that be should intriguing act as mere filler. The action is good and it's neat to see the main character perform parkour maneuvers as opposed to a villain or lesser character. With that aside, it's as shallow as Gossip and I don't see any reason to watch.

Continuum: This had an excellent start but when Kiera went back in time to 2012 (it had to be present day, didn't it), it just became lousy and whatever momentum and suspense that was crafted on the first episode went out the window. I find it's become something like CSI now and it's obvious that it's purely there to pump out more episodes. Rather than desperately seeking to return to her own time, Kiera is just going through the motions like it'll never happen. The second layer with the kid is dragging and why hasn't Keira tried to meet up with this punk in person? I love how the police chief is so unconvincing and how easily he accepts Keira's story. The action is really goofy and unrealistic with female characters performing impossible take downs, so much so that it reminded me of those shite Resident Evil movies.