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Zelkiiro
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:54 pm 
 

GTog wrote:
When I was in high school I found that I had a knack for doing cold reads on some people. Same trick shysters do to convince the gullible that they can talk to the dead. Some people broadcast their every thought and feeling in their facial expressions, body language, tone of voice, eye movements, etc. Combine that with teenagers, not the most grounded demographic in the world, and you can have a lot of fun with it.

I wouldn't call that supernatural, though. That's a perfectly natural trick you pick up when you major in medical psychology.
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soul_schizm
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:27 pm 
 

Zelkiiro wrote:
GTog wrote:
When I was in high school I found that I had a knack for doing cold reads on some people. Same trick shysters do to convince the gullible that they can talk to the dead. Some people broadcast their every thought and feeling in their facial expressions, body language, tone of voice, eye movements, etc. Combine that with teenagers, not the most grounded demographic in the world, and you can have a lot of fun with it.

I wouldn't call that supernatural, though. That's a perfectly natural trick you pick up when you major in medical psychology.


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circleofdestruction
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:25 pm 
 

Big_Grand wrote:
i believe that these things can be explained, but in ways we dont quite know yet, we dont really know what happens when we die, in a hundred years we just may, and even be able to prove some of these things scientifically. i mean the idea of electricity and a computer monitor were probably pretty ridicules a thousand years ago aswell, because no one would have known anything of how it would work

Actually, we do know what happens when we die. We stop being alive and our body rots. There is nothing to suggest that consciousness can exist without the brain (they've even stimulated neurons to show where memories are stored in the brain, causing people to relive memories, iirc; and people with traumatic brain injuries can show personality changes, showing that personality is something in the brain; alzeimer's patients have brain deterioration and if the mind wasn't in the brain, alzeimer's would have no symptoms). We just like to believe it does because we create mental models of things in our brains (like a loved one that has died), so we think they still exist somewhere else and can interact with us (when it's actually a sort of algorithm we've created in our brain). Likewise, we also think we will continue to exist, though this idea is blatant nonsense.

We know what happens when we die, but many people are unable to accept it. Our belief systems haven't caught up with scientific knowledge yet.

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When I was in high school I found that I had a knack for doing cold reads on some people.

I wish I could do that, could be a lot of fun.
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Please don't discuss whether you believe in it or not

But it's a discussion forum. I don't see why you have to believe in woo woo to discuss it.
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Grave_Wyrm
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:06 pm 
 

circleofdestruction wrote:
we also think we will continue to exist, though this idea is blatant nonsense.

We know what happens when we die, but many people are unable to accept it. Our belief systems haven't caught up with scientific knowledge yet.

It's 'Terror Management.' Terror is .. well, it's a rough and clingy monkey. Death and dying counselors will make a shit load of money when belief catches up with science.

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circleofdestruction
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:05 pm 
 

Grave_Wyrm wrote:
It's 'Terror Management.' Terror is .. well, it's a rough and clingy monkey. Death and dying counselors will make a shit load of money when belief catches up with science.

Yeah, I suppose you're quite right about that.

And I can understand that. I mean, when my dad died, I could still kind of have conversations with him in my head. I'd see something on the news, and I might imagine the conversation we might have had about it if he were still alive. The difference, of course, is that I was always well aware that he was dead and I was just using my imagination based on how he was while alive, and I knew it wasn't actually him I was talking to. I also had dreams about my dad and my uncle (he died a year before my dad), in which I'd converse with them about normal shit that happened after they died. Same with several other people I know who have died. But I can imagine how things like this could convince a person with a strong will to believe in the supernatural.

Also, I fucking hate the terms "paranormal" and "supernatural." If it happens in real life, it's "normal" and "natural," whether we knew the exact mechanisms at work or not. "Unexplained" =/= "supernatural," also. It just means we haven't explained it yet, not that it cannot be explained.
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iAm
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:43 pm 
 

Last night I saw something really odd, maybe some aviation experts can help me out as I do live adjacent to a naval base.

I was having a smoke at like 4 in the morning just before dawn and I saw what I thought to be an F-16, it was making very sharp turns and moving at an incredible speed. Then suddenly it stopped, hovered there for what seemed like five minutes then vanished. I have no idea what it was I saw but there just wasn't something right about it.
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Bleeding Ancient
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:49 pm 
 

My family moved into a very old two bedroom house, and after the first night, my parents asked if I wanted to switch rooms with them and take the master bedroom. Hell yeah! Soon after, my aunt came to visit. She was set up to stay in my room, but she became terrified in the middle of the night and left to stay on the couch instead. Then I found out that my mom had an experience in the middle of their first night, where she was awakened by the feeling of cold steel on her back and a tall man standing behind her. When she said, "Oh god why me?" he disappeared. Dad went to the town archives to see what he could find out about the house. He came back with the story that a man had axed his family to death and killed himself, right at the entrance to the master bedroom. My dog, who never barked at anyone, would sometimes stare at that corner of the room and bark like crazy, shaking and snarling, at nothing. A friend of mine came over, who is sensitive, and a believer in spiritual things, and stopped cold at my room, refusing to go in. He said that something bad is here. I did hear noises like a person shuffling around, but it was an old house. Years later, my parents were divorced and mom had her boyfriend over watching movies in the living room. I had a bunch of friends over in my room, and I went out to the kitchen for a drink. When I walked back through the hallway, mom asked in a strained voice, "Didn't you see anything?" Her boyfriend was scared shitless, apparently, they both saw the ghost, and I had walked right through it. The strangest thing that happened to me, was a few days later, a couple of small children, dressed in formal clothes, knocked on the door. When I opened the door and asked what they wanted, they stared at me giggling, and chimed, "You're house is haunted!" I slammed the door and started away, when I thought, "Hey, maybe those kids actually know something about the history of this house, and quickly opened the door, but they were nowhere to be seen, not even down the street.
Oh, I forgot to say, I don't believe in ghosts.

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Jackoroth
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:58 pm 
 

I went here a few years back on NYE:
http://www.paranormalaustralia.com/haun ... unnel.html

I'm not going to tell you that it's haunted but it's basically a long ass tunnel which is completely black which has some weird noises and things happening down there, I had a really old style currency coin fall on my head in there which I couldn't work out how or why.

Really worth checking out if you are near the area.

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OneSizeFitzpatrick
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Location: Sverdrup Islands, Canada
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:42 am 
 

Never seen, heard, touched or tasted any paranormal spooky stuff but I have had odd smells hit my nose before (as others have mentioned on here before) that seemed almost like a "nostalgic" smell if that makes any sense... I've hung around graveyards and "haunted" houses several times and never had anything happen to me, I'm still open to the idea of ghosts and shit but they seem to leave me the fuck alone, which is fine with me.
Off topic side-note: I think I know the OP from the St.Louis metal scene, tell the Russian dudes Zach says hey in Russian next time you see em.
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PhantomGreen
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:01 pm 
 

I was just recently thinking about how cool of a thread that last one was, there was some really cool stories in there well worth digging up for those who didn't get a chance to participate.

CorpseFister wrote:
Anyway, I open my eyes and sitting at my piano about 5 feet away there is this giant black thing looking at me. It’s hard to describe what I saw, it was just this terrible, black, swirling mass. The freaky thing was that I could feel it looking at me with hatred. I tried to move or scream or throw something at it but I was paralyzed and just laid there in terror as this evil shape stared at me with inhuman malevolence.


I had a very similar experience with a huge creepy shadow creature that I posted in the old 'creepiest thing that's happened to you' thread. Basically cat started acting fucking weird, got cold as fuck in the room and the hair on my neck stood up, I turn around to see a huge shadowy figure in the entrance to the hallway.
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CorpseFister
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:07 pm 
 

Was this at night, or around the time you usually go to sleep?

I’m sure what I experienced was a hypnagogic hallucination, albeit a terrifying one.

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circleofdestruction
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:13 pm 
 

CorpseFister wrote:

I’m sure what I experienced was a hypnagogic hallucination, albeit a terrifying one.

Used to have those all the time when I work nights shifts (they're more common when you're sleep schedule is totally fucked, and sometimes I did double shifts). Some were like little Star Wars jawas around the bed, one time it was like a blanket was trying to strangle me, and another time I hallucinated my roommate opening the door, walking up to me, and placing a pack of cigarettes on my forehead.

But yeah, I think hynopompic/hypnogogic hallucinations are probably another thing people can easily confuse with a supernatural experience.
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PhantomGreen
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:15 pm 
 

CorpseFister wrote:
Was this at night, or around the time you usually go to sleep?

I’m sure what I experienced was a hypnagogic hallucination, albeit a terrifying one.

It was about 11PM or so, and I was wide awake, there were people in the room right in front of me I could see from the computer. It was one of many many strange things we all experienced together in a particular old house we were renting. Though they didn't see the 'Shadow person' that particular time, seems me and the cat were the only ones who noticed it. That was a bad bad feeling.

http://www.shadowpeople.org/
I told my Dad about the experience and he said it sounded like I saw a 'Shadow person' But It wasn't really the shape of a person, more of a giant blob that I couldn't see through that almost blocked the doorway and I can't describe the ominous cold feeling it gave me...creepy as fuck.
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circleofdestruction
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:17 pm 
 

PhantomGreen wrote:
seems me and the cat were the only ones who noticed it. That was a bad bad feeling.

How can you be sure your cat noticed it without him telling you in human speech? Housepets often pick up on human emotions, and he could have easily been reacting to your reaction to whatever you experienced.
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PhantomGreen
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:21 pm 
 

circleofdestruction wrote:
PhantomGreen wrote:
seems me and the cat were the only ones who noticed it. That was a bad bad feeling.

How can you be sure your cat noticed it without him telling you in human speech? Housepets often pick up on human emotions, and he could have easily been reacting to your reaction to whatever you experienced.


Well Like i said this was one of many times we saw or heard strange things in the house, and we began to notice the cat would be hiding behind my girlfriend on the couch for example, tensed up and acting nervous, or she would dart into the room and hide or stare at nothing before something odd happened. This particular time the cat came running out of the kitchen where she was eating out of her bowl and jumped on the couch with my GF in the other room right before the coldness came over me.

I guess I should have elaborated a little more on the cats part in this story..
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Daemonlord
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:54 am 
 

Once, I was picking my parents up from the airport after their holiday, and it was early hours of the morning (around 4am, I believe). I was driving just a short distance from my house and noticed out of the corner of my eye what looked like a guy run out of the gap in the hedgerow (where there is a housing estate behind) and begin jogging along the cycle path outside my driver-side window just as I was passing. However, in a flash - at a 90 degree angle from the direction it started to head, this 'human' shaped thing shot across the road in front of me, mere meters in front of my car (I had just turned onto the main road so would've been going 40-50mph max). I didn't see a face - it was all too quick - but it was definitely as though a guy had ran out infront of me.

I braked hard (luckily, as it was early hours of the morning, there was literally no-one else on the road at the time), and in the split second I looked across the road to the garage on the other side to see where the guy had gone - nothing. Garage was all shut up, closed - no-one to be seen at all. I drove on a little further, came 'round the roundabout and went back to check the other way because I was so freaked out by it, almost convinced I'd hit someone or just ploughed through them somehow without so much as a 'bang'. Nothing there whatsoever. Weird thing is, unbeknownst to me at the time - a few people had been killed trying to cross to get to the garage from the same spot the 'thing' seemed to come from in the past few years before I moved there (I found this out as I retold the tale to my parents, and pointed the spot in the hedgerow on our journey back - they mentioned it then). Sounds like one of those urban legends sadly, so not a lot of people take it seriously. I was fully awake, so can't blame being 'half asleep' as it were. But I remember it clearly as if it was yesterday - weird shit.

Apart from that weird experience, I can't ever say I'd seen what I'd call a ghost. My bro had a weird experience in his house (which was my grans old house before she died), with a huge cabinet (I'm talking Victorian, mahogany - massive) in his bedroom which moved a full foot away from the wall overnight. At first he thought it was issues with the floorboards as it's an old house, but the carpets weren't bunched up so it hadn't been 'slid' across (he also thought he might've somehow done it himself while sleepwalking - but this thing is far too huge for one person to move on their own). Again, unexplained - weird.
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