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Xeogred
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:02 am 
 
Wow you weren't kidding. "Sad Wings of Destiny" is pretty dense.
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DeathRiderDoom
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:35 am 
 
Anyone here familiar with Redrum, from Sacramento? Just checked out a touch of their first album. Not too bad. Will make up my mind on subsequent listens.
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colin040
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:44 am 
 
Been listening to a lot of stuff lately.

Tad Morose's latest 2 records aren't bad, but it could have been so more. Songs such as ''Sword of Retribution'' and ''When the Spirit Rules the World'' (which has a killer groovy riff!) are pretty damn cool and there's some other decent stuff on the album too, but as far as entire albums go they're both not great and sadly feature some filler material.

Decided to give John Arch's A Twist of Fate a chance again. It's pretty cool; kinda like a less guitar-oriented version of the Arch/Matheos stuff. ''Relentless'' especially kicks ass. So much going on there yet I find Arch's vocal lines to be very catchy and the lead somewhere in the middle is very pleasant to hear as well. That track actually reminds me a bit of ''Neurotically Wired'', just not as heavy.

Tyrant's Mean Machine is solid 80's stuff. Vocally this reminds me of early Grave Digger or Running Wild.

Bands/albums I still have to listen to: Tarot, Cauldron Born, Liege Lord, Queensryche's The Warning, Screamer's Target: earth, Vicious Rumours' debut and Vulvagun.
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Zdan
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:59 am 
 
What pains me lately is that some of the most classic US metal stuff is/was not properly reissued or has been reissued a long time ago. Liege Lord's "Freedom's Rise" had it's last official edition in 1996 (the Old Metal CD is not official by any means), Jag Panzer's "Ample Destruction" is only available in bootleg form (fortunately I have my copy of the Metalcore CD). The Griffin albums are not in print. Satan's Host debut does not have a proper CD issue to this day. Really sucks.
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failsafeman
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:35 am 
 
Necroticism174 wrote:
I wish Sad Wings Of Vengeance was actually a thing...

Me too :(

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Satan's Host debut does not have a proper CD issue to this day. Really sucks.

What? Yes it does. I have the Keltic Metal Records reissue from 2006 on my shelf right now. It's not that hard to come by.
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Zdan
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:46 am 
 
From what I heard all of Keltic Records issues are bootlegs so I that one does not acount in my book.
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failsafeman
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:14 am 
 
Well it seems to have been co-released by Old Metal records, King Fowley's label. So I don't know. If it is a bootleg, it's a very good quality one. Booklet has all the lyrics, seems sturdy enough, etc. I got it from Shadow Kingdom, I don't think he sells bootlegs.
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Zdan
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:20 am 
 
Tim normally does not sell bootlegs but that slipped by the cracks of many distros. Eventually the Keltic Records stuff was declared as bootleg - same thing with the Morbid Saint release or the Deathwish/Original Sin split. Some bootlegs look better than others but they are still bootlegs. That is the case here.
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failsafeman
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:21 am 
 
Honestly I don't know if it really matters. On my end, the difference between a good bootleg and a regular reissue is essentially zilch. Plus I bought Satan's Host's two new albums, so I have no problem supporting the band otherwise.
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Zdan
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:03 am 
 
failsafeman wrote:
Honestly I don't know if it really matters. On my end, the difference between a good bootleg and a regular reissue is essentially zilch. Plus I bought Satan's Host's two new albums, so I have no problem supporting the band otherwise.


That is where we differ in approach. I prefer to support the labels that go through the proper channels to make a reissue like Stormspell for example. Just my approach. I just don't like bootlegs.
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failsafeman
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:12 am 
 
I prefer official reissues as well, but if they're not available there's no real harm in a bootleg.
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Zdan
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:22 am 
 
There actually is. By releasing that stuff and with people buying it the incentive to do a official reissue is lower. Stormspell abandoned the UK Deliverance reissue of the two-first albums because there is a greek bootleg out.
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failsafeman
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:35 am 
 
That just doesn't make a lot of sense. If there's a bootleg out, it means there's enough demand to warrant an official reissue. I'm sure tons and tons of people would prefer an official version. If they can't release an official ressiue superior to a bootleg, then that's a pretty sad label.
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Zdan
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:43 am 
 
failsafeman wrote:
That just doesn't make a lot of sense. If there's a bootleg out, it means there's enough demand to warrant an official reissue. I'm sure tons and tons of people would prefer an official version. If they can't release an official ressiue superior to a bootleg, then that's a pretty sad label.


We are talking about obscure bands here. Do you really think bootlegs do lower sales of such items? I think they do. There might be demand but is it enough demand to warrant releasing such a thing? Ever wonder why some items are limited runs? Not because it's a gimmick (for the most part) but because making more is simply not wise. It's simpler for a label to release something that was previously unreleased on CD or has not been bootlegged rather than battle with a bootleg and people who will simply not buy an official issue because they already have a boot.

However I get your point of getting a bootleg when the official issue it totally unavailable. That is why I understand why people got the Old Metal Records issue of Liege Lord's debut or the No Poser version of the Jag Panzer debut. I just don't like it and would prefer for official issues to be in print and readily available.
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Jophelerx
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:51 am 
 
Spellbinder seem like a pretty solid band in the vein of early Queensryche. Their first album, Under the Spell, is from 1998 (!) and definitely makes it sound like it's the 80's again. Haven't checked out their other material yet.
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colin040
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:58 am 
 
Revisiting Tad Morose's Undead at the moment. ''Servant of the Bones'' kicks ass, the next song features some lame riffs, ''Where the Sun Never Shines'' features a catchy chorus but I can't help but I think that the vocals during the verses sound a bit goofy. Currently ''Order of the Seven Poles'' is playing which is a fine tune. Urgh, this band is frustrating. :p
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YmirsGap
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:46 am 
 
Jophelerx wrote:
Spellbinder seem like a pretty solid band in the vein of early Queensryche. Their first album, Under the Spell, is from 1998 (!) and definitely makes it sound like it's the 80's again. Haven't checked out their other material yet.


This might be worth exploring, as this is one of my favorite styles, and there aren't a lot of recent bands doing it (aside from Ion Vein, Shadowkeep, Antiquus and Constantine).

Re: Judas Priest, albums two through four ("Sad Wings of Destiny", "Sin After Sin" and "Stained Class") are the only three that do much for me, probably because they're melodic and have a progressive component to them. Starting with "Killing Machine", they started to dumb themselves down musically, focusing more on cranking out boring and simplistic radio hits like "Hell Bent For Leather" and "Breaking the Law". "Painkiller" isn't bad, but it lacks the melody I like. For me, nothing will ever beat a song like "Beyond the Realms of Death": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LrCroCB6n0
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Xeogred
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:31 pm 
 
I was thinking that too when I was checking out some "Sad Wings of Destiny" songs last night (Victim of Changes, Dreamer Deceiver)... they were both quite long, definitely had some prog vibes. It was weird hearing Rob sing in lower tones too (think that was Dreamer). Obviously, I haven't really touched their old stuff and I need to remedy that...
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failsafeman
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:33 pm 
 
You dig "Victim of Changes", you gotta check out this live recording:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXqb_3fR6Ok
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:56 pm 
 
That was amazing, but damn... I might like Dreamer even more. This song is crazy.
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I_Am_Vengeance
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:28 am 
 
Xeogred, are you to tell me that you'd never listened to the 70's Priest stuff before? The fuck mang? The fuck? If you haven't checked it out, you oughtta have a gander at this early as shit live recording of Dreamer Deceiver/Deceiver from '75. Absolutely stunning.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:44 am 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGwvKzkz3OY

Any worse and it would be great.
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colin040
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:36 am 
 
From Virgin Steele's offical website:

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We are recording what will be the next new album, which hopefully will be issued before the year is out, and we are also recording the various bonus tracks that will be released on the next re-issues. And in truth we are really working on what will be the next 3 albums, because there are quite a lot of songs…We are trying to capture everything as the inspiration comes…As regards what the new album will be all about…I prefer to wait a bit to give you more information, as I am still writing, and I am waiting to see how the latest music develops. Once I know exactly what tracks it will contain I will then be in a better position to describe it to you…But…I can tell you that at the moment there are 3 different…let’s call them “Song Cycles” or Song Collections. Two of them could be conceived as conceptual, while the third consists of separate unrelated material. We are essentially trying to record everything before committing completely to what we will release first. It will all come out…it’s just a question of what will be first.


And the re-issue of Life Among The Ruins is out 18 June. :p
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Xeogred
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:10 am 
 
I_Am_Vengeance wrote:
Xeogred, are you to tell me that you'd never listened to the 70's Priest stuff before? The fuck mang? The fuck? If you haven't checked it out, you oughtta have a gander at this early as shit live recording of Dreamer Deceiver/Deceiver from '75. Absolutely stunning.

Yup, haven't spent much time with that stuff... no idea why. :lol:
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YmirsGap
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:36 am 
 
I found this trailer for Adramelch's new album "Lights from Oblivion": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBTtetMUr3M Every song sounds weak, not even metal. What happened to the spirit of "Irae Melanox"? This is basically a completely different band.

I haven't heard "Broken History" yet.

There are two many one or two album wonders in the world. I feel like I can count the bands that have produced four or more albums that I like all on one hand.
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colin040
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:05 pm 
 
I can't decide which track features Tony Martin at his absolute best. Either ''Headless Cross'' (of the masses appointed to DIEEEE! or ''Anno Mundi'' (don't they know? NO NO NOOOOOOOO!) What a terrific singer.
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Zdan
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:11 pm 
 
Martin-era Sabbath is really great. People shit on it because of the "Ozzy and Dio or nobody" attitude but say the title track on Headless Cross is a masterpiece.

As for Adramelch - I missed the reissue of the debut and now I am pissed because I cannot find it anywhere for a good price.
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Jophelerx
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:38 pm 
 
YmirsGap wrote:
I found this trailer for Adramelch's new album "Lights from Oblivion": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBTtetMUr3M Every song sounds weak, not even metal. What happened to the spirit of "Irae Melanox"? This is basically a completely different band.

I haven't heard "Broken History" yet.

There are two many one or two album wonders in the world. I feel like I can count the bands that have produced four or more albums that I like all on one hand.


Broken History is pretty decent. It's no Irae Melanox, but it's got some worthwhile material on it, worth checking out. Sad to hear that about Lights from Oblivion, was looking forward to checking it out soon.

Concerning Virgin Steele, that sounds pretty crazy, too bad DeFeis's voice is completely shot (if TBLB is anything to go by, anyway). Still, if the riffs are good it won't suck - I'm not getting my hopes up, though. Let's see if there's still any life left in this beast.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:11 am 
 
YmirsGap wrote:
I found this trailer for Adramelch's new album "Lights from Oblivion": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBTtetMUr3M Every song sounds weak, not even metal. What happened to the spirit of "Irae Melanox"? This is basically a completely different band.

I haven't heard "Broken History" yet.

There are two many one or two album wonders in the world. I feel like I can count the bands that have produced four or more albums that I like all on one hand.

Lights from Oblivion is good, but it's basically prog hard rock with some metal in there. I dig it quite a bit, but if you don't like prog rock, you're probably not going to like the album. And it's definitely the same band; I saw them play at KIT, and they totally fucking nailed the Irae Melanox material.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:15 am 
 
Holy fuck, Forte and their "Unholy War" album are kicking my ass right now. Vicious power/speed/thrash and those screams! Amazing comeback album - one of the best I heard in 2012.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:23 am 
 
Zdan wrote:
What pains me lately is that some of the most classic US metal stuff is/was not properly reissued or has been reissued a long time ago. Liege Lord's "Freedom's Rise" had it's last official edition in 1996 (the Old Metal CD is not official by any means), Jag Panzer's "Ample Destruction" is only available in bootleg form (fortunately I have my copy of the Metalcore CD). The Griffin albums are not in print. Satan's Host debut does not have a proper CD issue to this day. Really sucks.

About that Jag Panzer CD: Are the reissues mentioned on MA (Metalcore, Metal Blade, and No Posers) all legitimate releases for the album? I'm going to a CD store in the US next week that claims to have plenty of rare albums that aren't even used (Ample Destruction, Holocaust's The Nightcomers, Jaguar's Power Games, and Sweet Savage's Killing Time, among others). I find it hard to believe these are all real, new albums, but I've never heard any bad reviews for this store.

Also, do you guys recommend those Holocaust and Sweet Savage albums? What I've heard didn't blow me away, but I feel like if I don't buy them now, I'll regret it later.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:31 am 
 
Avoid the No Posers Records version as that one is a bootleg. There is also a semi-bootleg version on Banzai Records on CD. The two CD issues of this album are the Metalcore Records version and Metal Blade version.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:43 am 
 
Thanks for the headsup. The album's page should probably be updated because it seems to imply the No Posers one isn't a bootleg.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:49 pm 
 
Jophelerx wrote:
Spellbinder seem like a pretty solid band in the vein of early Queensryche. Their first album, Under the Spell, is from 1998 (!) and definitely makes it sound like it's the 80's again. Haven't checked out their other material yet.

OMG ! How did i miss these guys ? amazing !
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:56 pm 
 
Zdan wrote:
Holy fuck, Forte and their "Unholy War" album are kicking my ass right now. Vicious power/speed/thrash and those screams! Amazing comeback album - one of the best I heard in 2012.

Yeah, about time that fucking thing came out. It's on its way to me now, you better not be lying about how good it is!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:04 pm 
 
colin040 wrote:
I can't decide which track features Tony Martin at his absolute best. Either ''Headless Cross'' (of the masses appointed to DIEEEE! or ''Anno Mundi'' (don't they know? NO NO NOOOOOOOO!) What a terrific singer.


Totally agreed. way underated singer and TYR is his absolute stellar best !
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:27 pm 
 
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Da ... ion/340487

WHAT

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I can't find this anywhere. Hell's Headbangers has it, but it says it's not in stock when I try to add it to my cart. I might end up sending the label (located in Chile) an e-mail and asking if they know of distros that have it - or as a last resort, ordering it directly from them.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:02 pm 
 
oh man, that instrumentation I am hearing on the new Forte is beyond awesome! Some of the best thrash/power stuff I have heard in a long while. But I just can't get in to that guys vocals....ugh, pisses me off that they won't click.
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Zdan
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:54 pm 
 
Do not buy anything from Keltic Records. The guy is a fuckin' bootlegger. Do not buy that Dark Age CD - I can bet my collection that it is not clear with the band or the label.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:23 pm 
 
I'm listening to Virgin Steele's Life Among the Ruins right now (the album) and I'm pretty sure I'm going to vomit.
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