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macrocosm
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 9:09 pm 
 

http://www.facebook.com/notes/satanic-b ... 6288790789

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VON Full Length LP "Satanic Blood" (*Brand New Studio Recordings).


Project Title:
Satanic Blood



Tracklisting:
Jesus Stain
Devil Pig
Venien
Release
Veadtuck
Vennt
Evisc
Goat Christ
Dissection InHuman
Chalice of Blood
Blood Von
Christfire
Backskin
Watain
Blood Angel
Lamb
Satanic Blood
Litanies of Von
Satan

Release Date: 2012

Format: Vinyl/CD

Label: Von Records

Distribution: TBA


Looks like Venien is just re-recording old tracks. I don't support this release, Goat isn't even in the band anymore.

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macrocosm
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 9:15 pm 
 

From what we've seen from interviews and all this "Von Music Group" shit I think it's pretty clear Venien is just in this to make money. I'm not sure how much money there is Von but I think he's going to milk it for all it's got.

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Numerator_41
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 9:30 pm 
 

The old Von recordings are some of the best black metal ever, but fuck this bullshit.
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DestruicaoMetalica
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 6:38 am 
 

Can't we just get another reissue of the demos?
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:18 am 
 

Von is bullshit. When they(he) will stop cannibalizing those shitty demos?
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Kuranes Trevor
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:12 am 
 

This isn't needed. Silly.

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Malthus
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:20 am 
 

Beating a very, very dead horse. Von has become the Coolio of black metal.

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absurder21
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 12:27 pm 
 

macrocosm wrote:
Looks like Venien is just re-recording old tracks.

Thus finally answering the question: How can Von music get any shittier...

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csehszlovakze
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 2:16 pm 
 

Won't check this out. The Satanic Blood demo is great, the Blood Angel demo isn't bad, but I won't support this bullshit, VMG to be boycotted.
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the_raytownian
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 2:29 pm 
 

Yeah, I must say, this seems pretty lame to me.
Not interested in hearing, but not going to "burn my Von records" so to speak (that is, if I actually had them).
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Marag
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 2:32 pm 
 

What a lazy fucking jackass

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OzzyApu
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 2:33 pm 
 

This is the worst milking of a band I've seen at this level.
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Oxenkiller
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:04 pm 
 

"Brand new studio recording?" huh? Sheesh, most of those songs are 20 years old already!! Hasn't he written any new songs after all this time?

Maybe next year he'll do a "VON's Greatest Hits" album, followed by another album called "The Very Best of VON" the year after that.

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Desperta_Ferro
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:34 pm 
 

Writing Von songs can't be that hard, right?

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ancientorder
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:41 am 
 

DestruicaoMetalica wrote:
Can't we just get another reissue of the demos?

I don't think those will happen. At least not through NWN since Venien has slandered the previous releases as bootlegs. IMO it's quite funny that this Venien, who supposedly is the original bassist but did not play on the demos that everybody knows, suddenly came forth couple years ago and takes the credit on everything. Nobody even knew about him having any kind of part before he appeared.

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Rotting_Christ_Mike
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:21 am 
 

This guy is really funny. I wonder if anyone would actually buy this!

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Kuranes Trevor
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:38 am 
 

Desperta_Ferro wrote:
Writing Von songs can't be that hard, right?


About as hard as many other bands, I guess.

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VRR
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:11 am 
 

Rotting_Christ_Mike wrote:
This guy is really funny. I wonder if anyone would actually buy this!


I know for a fact they didn't even sell all of the Satanic Blood 2010 7 inches, because he started giving them away for free on last.fm.

In fact there was a fucking ridiculous moment last year where he nearly got my youtube account removed because I had shared the new Von material for people to listen to for free, then a couple of days later I "won" two spare copies of the EP on last.fm and he ended up paying with his own money to ship them to me! :D

If he carries on with this level of business acumen he'll be bankrupt in a year.

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Necroticism174
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:59 pm 
 

All he would have to do is write like 4 tremolo riffs and he would have a new release. Von is some of the most musically simple stuff out there. His laziness is intense.
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DeadXManiac
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 2:07 pm 
 

So "Goat" isn't even in the band anymore and this jackass is going to re-record and re-release stuff he never played on? what a loser.
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Oxenkiller
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:05 pm 
 

yeah it really shouldnt be too hard to come up with new songs for this band. Countless garage punk bands play the same type of music but with different (less black metal-sounding) chord progressions. I could write about a half dozen VON-styled songs in less than an hour!

I totally get the fact that with NWN! re-releasing the demo's that Venien would be pissed at not getting any royalties, and would want to sue for creative control of his music. Assuming of course that he wrote those songs to begin with; who really knows at this point. Heck, anyone could have written that; it's like Tenacious D's "one note song"- anyone could have written that, but who DID write it?? So much frikkin' drama for one utterly forgettable 3 piece band. If it wasnt for the Norwegian black metal guys hyping the band in the early 90's, after VON were already broken up, people would have totally forgotten about them and nobody would have even gave a shit whether that material was ever re-released or not. The guy should just write some new dang songs already or else start a new band.

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Ribos
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 11:48 pm 
 

So we got one guy who was in the original band but didn't make the demo recordings re-recording the demo songs with two other guys who were never in the band and releasing them under the old band's name as a "new" album named after one of the demos that no one in the band was involved in the recording of.

YEAH THIS SOUNDS LEGIT ALL RIGHT.

Fuck it, at least we know one of the guys responsible for recording the demos got the royalties from the NWN reissue. This whole "Von Music Group" thing is just bullshit all around. And I LIKED those old demos and would welcome a real reunion/new material from the band.
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ancientorder
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:38 am 
 

Oxenkiller wrote:
I totally get the fact that with NWN! re-releasing the demo's that Venien would be pissed at not getting any royalties, and would want to sue for creative control of his music.

Why should he get royalties for something where he doesn't play or take any part? The whole scheme smells like a scam to a mile away and this Venien is in only for the money now that he has seen the underground popularity of Von.

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LokiGoddess
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:52 am 
 

Satanic Blood... again? Really? Wasn't the last single called Satanic Blood? And the 1992 demo?

Fuck it, just name every new record you put out Satanic Blood. Milk the super-niche legacy of that demo till it dries the fuck out.
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HeySharpshooter
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:59 am 
 

I find it funny how everyone is mentioning "making money"...

This is Von we are talking about right? Between pirates, purists who won't buy re-issues and the fact that the vast majority of people on Earth have no fucking clue who Von are, there won't be much "money" to go around...

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csehszlovakze
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:20 am 
 

HeySharpshooter wrote:
I find it funny how everyone is mentioning "making money"...

This is Von we are talking about right? Between pirates, purists who won't buy re-issues and the fact that the vast majority of people on Earth have no fucking clue who Von are, there won't be much "money" to go around...

and the majority of people I know hates and ignores re-recordings by default.
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Kuranes Trevor
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:23 am 
 

HeySharpshooter wrote:
I find it funny how everyone is mentioning "making money"...

This is Von we are talking about right? Between pirates, purists who won't buy re-issues and the fact that the vast majority of people on Earth have no fucking clue who Von are, there won't be much "money" to go around...


No I can't imagine too much money either. But maybe a little bit of underground fame.
There's a lot of talk on message boards at least ;)

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Necroticism174
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 12:27 pm 
 

This just in, Micheal Ammot is re-recording Reek Of Putrefaction in 5.1 Surround Sound and selling it at Arch Enemy shows!
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LordBelketraya
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 2:44 am 
 

Without Goat and Snake this is pointless and to me not VON.

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John_Sunlight
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 3:39 am 
 

Does not the band not being VON offer an opportunity for improvement?
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 3:57 am 
 

John_Sunlight wrote:
Does not the band not being VON offer an opportunity for improvement?

:lol: Can't really be worse, or can it...
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 5:45 pm 
 

Kveldulfr wrote:
Von is bullshit. When they(he) will stop cannibalizing those shitty demos?

So true

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juicebitch
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 2:38 am 
 

I'm sure the album will sell like hotcakes.

It'd be interesting to see whether Venien and co have re-arranged any of the songs especially now that Goat has left.
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VargVon
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:46 am 
 

VON also stated recently on one of their hundred Facebook pages that they are doing no less that 16 SPLIT ALBUMS! with 16 different bands. Hilarious stuff! aswell as a new VON album,A Von Venien album and world tours and fanzines and festivals and custom guitars.

This is awesome. ;-)

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peterott
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:48 am 
 

Everyone who has seen the disastrous Von live performance at the Armageddon festival in London in 2010 will stay far far away from this band...
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InvertedForest
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:20 pm 
 

October 31st is the release date! just got confirmation on Twitter.

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GravityLapse
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^ Completely obvious "Von LLC" sockpuppet account.

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Ribos
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:11 pm 
 

peterott wrote:
Everyone who has seen the disastrous Von live performance at the Armageddon festival in London in 2010 will stay far far away from this band...
What exactly happened at this show anyways? I keep hearing about the failure, but nothing in terms of details of the event.
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Oxenkiller
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:22 pm 
 

I don't think they were ever a particularly good live band. Listen to this, dude, this is priceless... I was digging around in my old metal memorabilia, and re-reading an old D.I.Y. underground magazine called "Necropolis" from late 1991. The author, Paul Thind, was reviewing a gig where VON had opened for Cannibal Corpse, Gorguts and Atheist, and basically just ripped on them:

"...The actual show started out with one of those pathetic satanic Death Metal bands: Von. Yeah they did get laughed at with their stage props...I was walking around with Eric from Gorguts when these guys played and we had a good time laughing at them!! I dont think I can say anything good about this band, so I won't" - Paul Thind, NECROPOLIS Magazine, fall 1991.

I've heard some of their recordings and I don't think they're bad for what they are, which is very basic, 3 -chord tremolo picked riffing style black metal, but it's certainly not rocket science. The point is, this band was utterly dismissed and ridiculed at the time. But, they got a bit of a hype a few years later with the whole Varg/Euronomous thing, and then instead of trying to improve on what they were doing back then, they simply try to cash in on what little popularity the "Norwegian Black Metal" hype had gained them and just do the exact same dang songs over again. I cannot imagine how this could ever work to their benefit.

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InvertedForest
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:22 am 
 

New album is out now!! and you can stream an awesome track on the Terrorizer website! It is the best thing ive ever heard. I will be blasting this on my Ipod nano today.

http://www.terrorizer.com/2012/10/30/st ... von-track/

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