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Nithoggr
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:09 pm 
 

Basically, this is a pretty straight forward question. I have a friend whose band is contemplating submitting a copy of their demo to No Colors. However, I have heard they are a NSBM label, and this is not compatible to the work of my pal. So, anyway, are they?
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DarthVenom
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:10 pm 
 

I bought Intestine Baalism's Ultimate Instinct from No Colors, and they're not exactly the poster-children for Aryan pride. Beyond that one personal experience, I couldn't tell you.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:13 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/labels/No ... Records/39
Didn't see any bands that had National Socialism as their lyrical theme.
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jameswolfe
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:18 pm 
 

Oh jesus who gives a fuck......

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:26 pm 
 

Be Persecuted and Intestine Baalism are the poster boys of East Asian Aryan Pride Worldwide
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:45 pm 
 

Thashierthanthou wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/labels/No_Colours_Records/39
Didn't see any bands that had National Socialism as their lyrical theme.


Veles are connected to the scene and they've got a slew of Rob Darken's projects. Regardless, it's doubtful that so many established non-ns acts would sign to an openly ns label

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TheUglySoldier
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:13 pm 
 

I don't think so, no. If it is due to the name, I'm pretty sure "No Colors" more so refers to blackness, the absence of light, etc.
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Nithoggr
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:16 pm 
 

Thanks. I'll pass it along. Also, I didn't notice Intestinal Baalism on there before...
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:25 am 
 

well....

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Th ... Death/7369
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Westvargr
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:45 am 
 

In case someone wants to label a band NS for the sake of doing so, being signed to No Colors will always be an argument of the leftists.

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Zero_Nowhere
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:47 am 
 

They're not a full-blown NS label, but they've always been in that grey zone where they've got several NS bands signed and, by all accounts, a fair number of sympathisers involved in actually running the label.

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Daemonlord
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:16 am 
 

No Colours has had some of the best black/pagan metal that you could wish for in the later 90s and 00s in my opinion. The majority of their bands may have less than PC politics, but it's not a NS specific label - they did handle Dimmu Borgir's first album, as well as the aforemention Intestinal Baalism after all.
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Tired
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:48 am 
 

Daemonlord wrote:
No Colours has had some of the best black/pagan metal that you could wish for in the later 90s and 00s in my opinion. The majority of their bands may have less than PC politics, but it's not a NS specific label - they did handle Dimmu Borgir's first album, as well as the aforemention Intestinal Baalism after all.


Didn't Dimmu Borgir actually give all kinds of 'aryan black metal' comments in early zine interviews... They immediately cut this stuff when they noticed people were actually buying the records though.

Hmm yeah I found this for example:
http://hatpastorn.files.wordpress.com/2 ... e-1995.jpg

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Daemonlord
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:58 am 
 

Hahah, that's brilliant - I had no idea! Who'd have thought Shaggy was such a hater :-)
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 7:39 am 
 

They're definitely race baiters.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:52 am 
 

I saw the name referenced in 'Lords of chaos' in connection I think to Absurd and NS stuff, but I also got Morbid Saint's 'Spectrum of death' from them who as far as I know have nothing whatsoever to do with all that crap...
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:53 am 
 

Daemonlord wrote:
Hahah, that's brilliant - I had no idea! Who'd have thought Shaggy was such a hater :-)

HILL THE ARIAN RACE :lol:
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:14 am 
 

I think everybody has pretty much hit the nail on the head. No Colours isn't an NSBM label, but they've definitely had a number of artists that could fall within this genre. But then again a number of labels that release pagan or black metal have bands that have some sort of connection with that scene or those ideals. Right- and left-wing bands coexist on labels all over the place. For instance, Skagos (a pretty far-left band) had a CD on the same label as Geimhre, and Falls of Rauros (another left-leaning band) had an album on Morbid Winter, which has released stuff by Temnozor and members of the UBMR.

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phantaz
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:18 am 
 

isn't abyssic hate an NS band?! always had that idea...
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Daemonlord
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:29 am 
 

phantaz wrote:
isn't abyssic hate an NS band?! always had that idea...


Heh, well their demo was called "Cleansing of an Ancient Race" - take from that what you will
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:32 am 
 

The label doesn't exist to spread national socialist propaganda, if that's what you mean. They signed nationalist bands though, for sure. I think they just don't care.

And really, having a Japanese band on the label means nothing. Japan and Germany were allies, after all. ;)

Abyssic Hate NS? Their lyrics are about depression and suicide. Yeah, maybe the guy is a racist..that hardly means that he automatically makes NSBM!
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:39 am 
 

Tired wrote:
Daemonlord wrote:
No Colours has had some of the best black/pagan metal that you could wish for in the later 90s and 00s in my opinion. The majority of their bands may have less than PC politics, but it's not a NS specific label - they did handle Dimmu Borgir's first album, as well as the aforemention Intestinal Baalism after all.


Didn't Dimmu Borgir actually give all kinds of 'aryan black metal' comments in early zine interviews... They immediately cut this stuff when they noticed people were actually buying the records though.

Hmm yeah I found this for example:
http://hatpastorn.files.wordpress.com/2 ... e-1995.jpg


lol, can we get more earlyteenagerish than that?
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Napero
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:02 pm 
 

jameswolfe wrote:
Oh jesus who gives a fuck......

You, obviously, seeing that you actually called out the name of your Lord and Saviour in the post you made just because you care enough. Silly christian twat.

Since you asked, why not think about it a bit before posting? Having a connection to NSBM scene is one of the tiny handful of metal-related things I can imagine having a negative effect on a person's job prospects in Finland, as an example. People have all sorts of ideologies, some of them exact polar opposites of NS, and a lot of people take them seriously, be they political, animal rights stuff, religion, whatever. And finally, the NS people seem to care more than what I'd consider healthy.

Post stuff that have some value in the future, will you?
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:12 pm 
 

Tired wrote:


LMAO!!!!!!!!

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BaloroftheEvilEye
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:23 pm 
 

Is National Socialism a big movement in Finland, Napero?

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Napero
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:59 pm 
 

BaloroftheEvilEye wrote:
Is National Socialism a big movement in Finland, Napero?

No. We have our skinheads, and a few noisy wannabe-demagogues, but half of them are drooling idiots and the remaining six spend most of their time in prison. Or something. Not big, although after the True Finns got surprisingly many MPs on the last election round, there's been some racially tinted political discussion here. Still, it's on a relatively sane level most of the time, not counting a few looneys.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 4:53 pm 
 

That Dimmu Borgir interview is nothing more than the words of an immature, rebellious teenager. Gaahl made similar remarks during the time of the first Trelldom album. It was just "cool" to hate other people for these guys back then. They grew out of it. If someone is a real die hard National Socialist I think they can find better, more productive ways than a metal band to get their message to the public.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:58 pm 
 

Daemonlord wrote:
No Colours has had some of the best black/pagan metal that you could wish for in the later 90s and 00s in my opinion. The majority of their bands may have less than PC politics, but it's not a NS specific label - they did handle Dimmu Borgir's first album, as well as the aforemention Intestinal Baalism after all.

I went there a few years ago, just happened to remember the name, and you sound right.

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jameswolfe
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:33 pm 
 

Napero wrote:
jameswolfe wrote:
Oh jesus who gives a fuck......

You, obviously, seeing that you actually called out the name of your Lord and Saviour in the post you made just because you care enough. Silly christian twat.

Since you asked, why not think about it a bit before posting? Having a connection to NSBM scene is one of the tiny handful of metal-related things I can imagine having a negative effect on a person's job prospects in Finland, as an example. People have all sorts of ideologies, some of them exact polar opposites of NS, and a lot of people take them seriously, be they political, animal rights stuff, religion, whatever. And finally, the NS people seem to care more than what I'd consider healthy.

Post stuff that have some value in the future, will you?



Ill post whatever I want thank you.

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No, you won't.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 4:56 pm 
 

That quote in the Dimmu interview looks so childish that I'm actually doubting it's real.

Or maybe I'm being too optimistic.

As for No Colors, I've always thought of it as one of these labels that doesn't profile itself as NS, but doesn't reject material on the basis of it being NS either. This means, as someone else has already said, that people will use this to label a band NS regardless of whether the label or the band actually are NS as such.
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Tired wrote:
Daemonlord wrote:
No Colours has had some of the best black/pagan metal that you could wish for in the later 90s and 00s in my opinion. The majority of their bands may have less than PC politics, but it's not a NS specific label - they did handle Dimmu Borgir's first album, as well as the aforemention Intestinal Baalism after all.


Didn't Dimmu Borgir actually give all kinds of 'aryan black metal' comments in early zine interviews... They immediately cut this stuff when they noticed people were actually buying the records though.

Hmm yeah I found this for example:
http://hatpastorn.files.wordpress.com/2 ... e-1995.jpg



Wow, did he really say that?! The short interview looks to be from a rather tawdry 'zine which makes Shagrath seem even more of a chicken shit.

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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 8:47 pm 
 

NARAKU666 wrote:

both of those album covers are hilarious :lol:

Quote:
Hmm yeah I found this for example:
http://hatpastorn.files.wordpress.com/2 ... e-1995.jpg

i like how they consistently misspell Dimmu Borgir
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 3:21 am 
 

marktheviktor wrote:
Wow, did he really say that?!

A lot of the old norwegian bands said in early interviews racist remarks (Nagash of Covenant/Troll did, too), so it's not really suprising. Typos in that interview could be if the interview was done by phone or the editor had poor english skills to transcript the answers from a letter. Like how many years VON was thought to be the infamous acronym just because Varg had said it in a phone interview?

And that's not the only interview where Shagrath had said something like that.

http://ablaze-magazin.de/___ablaze/uplo ... s_vier.jpg

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 6:40 am 
 

If i remembered correctly, Dark Funeral were once signed to No Colours. But they decided to pull out of the label because they did not agree with their racist ideology. And yes, No Colours also signs bands with National Socialism themes.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 1:08 pm 
 

Nithoggr wrote:
Basically, this is a pretty straight forward question. I have a friend whose band is contemplating submitting a copy of their demo to No Colors. However, I have heard they are a NSBM label, and this is not compatible to the work of my pal. So, anyway, are they?


The real question is: is the "work of your pal" compatible to No Colours's selection?
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 8:03 pm 
 

Also, if i'm not mistaken wasn't this shirt printed by No Colours without the consent of Drudkh?

Image

I need to dig mine out of the closet to confirm if the trademark is from No Colours.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 12:56 am 
 

Isn't Inquisition on this label (or until recently) Pretty sure Dagon is a Hispanic dude, such as myself. On a white power label....hmm.

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pastafarian wrote:
Isn't Inquisition on this label (or until recently) Pretty sure Dagon is a Hispanic dude, such as myself. On a white power label....hmm.

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