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Victor_Of_The_Void
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:54 pm 
 

Trepidation...that's the color of my soul as regards NILE's forthcoming anything!

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Twisted_Psychology
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:29 pm 
 

Smalley wrote:
RedAnkh wrote:
I think RateYourMusic is a good indication on the average person's opinion. TWTGD is the #3 highest rated Nile album over there.

That is a good ranking, but I'm thinking more of the general reaction I see towards Those Whom..., across multiple sites; it does have those fans who think it's Nile's best (or ONE of their best, at least), but I seem to see it get the most vocally negative reaction of any Nile, at least when looking at its haters. Of course, for every Nile record, there's gonna be at least Nile fan who's indifferent to/hates it, but I think Those Whom has gotten the biggest backlash to date. The lovers love it a lot, yes, but the haters... but I really can't prove any of this, I'm just going with my gut here.


Personally, I've noticed that Ithyphallic gets so much more criticism than Those Whom ever does.
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Smalley
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:47 pm 
 

Twisted_Psychology wrote:
Personally, I've noticed that Ithyphallic gets so much more criticism than Those Whom ever does.

Maybe; I wasn't as plugged into the metal community back when Itchy Phallus came out, so I don't have as good an idea as the reaction to it :-D

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:57 pm 
 

Twisted_Psychology wrote:
Personally, I've noticed that Ithyphallic gets so much more criticism than Those Whom ever does.


Definitely, yeah, but I guess that Ithyphallic isn't as good as the albums it's sandwiched between in Nile's discography. It's still a great album to me, though, with some classic Nile tracks and a few underrated gems like "As He Creates" and "Eat of the Dead." Then again, who am I to say, I love everything Nile's done pretty much equally.
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CorpseFister
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:52 pm 
 

I hope they keep experimenting here and there with different sounds and voices like they did with TWTGD. Being consistent is generally a good thing, but I’ll be disappointed if we get an album like Ithyphallic- not bad at all but just more of the same.

Oh and the drumming better be fucking crazy. George Kollias is a monster behind the kit, so boasting that these drums are gonna blow minds raises some pretty high expectations.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:52 pm 
 

Subrick wrote:
They said it six times in that song. You're about 999,994 off.

LOL!

HenryKrinkle31 wrote:
I think Unas, Slayer of the Gods did a perfect job at mixing the ambient stuff with the tech death stuff. It's the song that got me into the band, originally.

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Best track by Nile by far, taken from their best album ever. Doubt they'll ever top that.

I agree about Unas but I'm not sure about not been able to top Black Seeds.
Anyway, I think their main problem is that they're forgetting about the feeling while they're trying to go faster and faster. But, where?

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therealvivs
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:41 pm 
 

BasqueStorm wrote:
(...) they're trying to go faster and faster. But, where?


This. And Karl's recent comments about how great the drumming is supposed to be on this new record... I would much prefer he would comment on the riffing or the atmosphere they're trying to capture this time around or what are they doing differently... I dunno, I just hope George realizes he doesn't need to prove anyone that he's a great skinsman and also that music is not a contest. If kids on facetubz wanna argue till death if he's faster or not than Flo or Roddy or whoever, that's one thing, but if you start letting that kind of matters (a.k.a. ego) get in between songwriting and performance... Don't get me wrong guys, I love Nile and George but what I want is a monstrous piece of epic death metal, I couldn't care less how fast they can play.

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Milos
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:09 am 
 

First three Nile albums are nothing but death metal masterpieces, but since then they just try to sound faster and more technical and it's not for me. I gave a chance to last three albums, but besides technicality I hear nothing. I only like few songs, Ithyphallic, The Burning Pits of the Duat and few others. So, I'm not expecting anything from their new album, but I'll give it a listen.

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absurder21
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:07 pm 
 

I seem to be the only person who think Ithylphallic is monumentally better then everything else they've released. Not that I think any of it's bad, it's all great, even TWTGD, but no death metal songs make my hair stand on end and make me want to thrash around like a maniac the same way Ithyllphallic, As he creates, Eat of the Dead or Even the Gods must die do.

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cultofkraken
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:13 pm 
 

absurder21 wrote:
I seem to be the only person who think Ithylphallic is monumentally better then everything else they've released. Not that I think any of it's bad, it's all great, even TWTGD, but no death metal songs make my hair stand on end and make me want to thrash around like a maniac the same way Ithyllphallic, As he creates, Eat of the Dead or Even the Gods must die do.


I don't think it is their best but I certainly think it is better than most say it is and it most certainly keeps up Nile's consistent quality. Amongst the Catacombs of Nephren-Ka will always be my favourite but hey I got it when it came out and it had a huge impact on me.
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GuitarGuyNack
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:25 am 
 

I can't wait for this.Nile has never failed to deliver a good album.TWTGD was as close to a perfect album as i've ever seen so i can't wait to see how they are going to top it.
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Smalley
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:58 am 
 

Nile disco-ranking time!

Shrines
TWtGD
Ithyphallic
Annihilation

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Ilwhyan
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:18 am 
 

therealvivs wrote:
BasqueStorm wrote:
(...) they're trying to go faster and faster. But, where?


This. And Karl's recent comments about how great the drumming is supposed to be on this new record... I would much prefer he would comment on the riffing or the atmosphere they're trying to capture this time around or what are they doing differently... I dunno, I just hope George realizes he doesn't need to prove anyone that he's a great skinsman and also that music is not a contest. If kids on facetubz wanna argue till death if he's faster or not than Flo or Roddy or whoever, that's one thing, but if you start letting that kind of matters (a.k.a. ego) get in between songwriting and performance... Don't get me wrong guys, I love Nile and George but what I want is a monstrous piece of epic death metal, I couldn't care less how fast they can play.

Agreed, it's completely inconsequential who can play 2 bpm faster than who. The intensity of death metal does correlate with fastness of tempo, but there is no direct causality, especially not in the sense that slightly faster double bass playing should be preferable over a greater riff.
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Empyreal
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:08 pm 
 

Annihilation of the Wicked is clearly the best Nile album. TWTGD was pretty boring.
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andersbang
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:27 pm 
 

The more I listen to it, the less Annihilation does for me. Amongst... and Black Seeds... are my favorites, followed then by Those Whom The Gods Detest.
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TheMizwaOfMuzzyTah
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:35 pm 
 

Annihilation is lame. Black Seeds was horrid. Everything else ranges from pretty good to fucking awesome. I consider TWTGD to be fucking awesome. That record takes all of their various elements, concentrates them and manages to produce some tight, atmospheric and brutal tunes.

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andersbang
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:38 pm 
 

That's why Nile is such a great band, because everybody has different favorites and rankings.
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BasqueStorm
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:43 pm 
 

Empyreal wrote:
Annihilation of the Wicked is clearly the best Nile album. TWTGD was pretty boring.

I agree about TWTGD.

TheMizwaOfMuzzyTah wrote:
Annihilation is lame. Black Seeds was horrid. Everything else ranges from pretty good to fucking awesome. I consider TWTGD to be fucking awesome. That record takes all of their various elements, concentrates them and manages to produce some tight, atmospheric and brutal tunes.

Holy shit! REALLY?!?

I'll quote myself from the Now Playing thread:

BasqueStorm wrote:
N.P: Iskander Dhul Kharnon from (2009) Nile - Those Whom The Gods Detest.
Holy shit! I never though I would say this but, after listening to this last album from start to finish... boring?!?
Let's see with (2007) Nile - Ithyphallic...
Going from new to old cause the last album I really took care for was (2002) Nile - In Their Darkened Shrines.

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Empyreal
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:51 pm 
 

TWTGD is just dragging. It sounds like it should be good but the last time I played it, I could barely get through half of it.
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Smalley
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:32 am 
 

I think I like Annihilation a good deal less than most Nile fans... I mean, it's still decent, with some stand-outs, but too much of its songwriting just feels to me like Nile spinning their wheels with a lot of energy, but little real direction. Definitely disappointing coming right after Shrines.

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Paganbasque
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:25 am 
 

AOTW is pretty boring for me, too orientet to be brutal and fast, and lacking the egyptian atmopshere of the best NILE´s albums. From whom... was awesome but the previous one is even better, it contains true gemns like Even the gods must die or As he creates, so he destroys, a trully killer album. Anyway the best album is In their darkened shirnes, what an astonishing masterpiece.

Anyway, Nile has improved a lot the production of the albums, the sound is now clearer and more consistent, which is something they really needed to improve in order to enjoy such a brutal and complex music.

I only want two things from the new album, atmosphere(egyptian/arabian of course) and variety, if they introduce these elements it will be a kickass album.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:56 am 
 

Smalley wrote:
Nile disco-ranking time!

Shrines
TWtGD
Ithyphallic
Annihilation

Finally, a fellow Shrines lover! Perhaps it's nostalgia, since it was the very first brutal death album I listened to, but It's the only album of theirs I'd consider perfect. There's just something about its synth-y atmosphere that takes it a step further from their other albums.

After Shrines, it'd be Annihilation, then Those Whom. Never listened to any other albums.
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BasqueStorm
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:23 am 
 

Paganbasque wrote:
I only want two things from the new album, atmosphere(egyptian/arabian of course) and variety, if they introduce these elements it will be a kickass album.

I agree. Anyway, new Nile is always good news!

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Paganbasque
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:46 am 
 

BasqueStorm wrote:
Paganbasque wrote:
I only want two things from the new album, atmosphere(egyptian/arabian of course) and variety, if they introduce these elements it will be a kickass album.

I agree. Anyway, new Nile is always good news!


And a good excuse to see them in a concert, again. :)

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:07 pm 
 

Paganbasque wrote:
And a good excuse to see them in a concert, again. :)


Even though they're opening for a shitty band in the U.S. :-P
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CrueltyJuggernaut
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:15 pm 
 

triggerhappy wrote:
Smalley wrote:
Nile disco-ranking time!

Shrines
TWtGD
Ithyphallic
Annihilation

Finally, a fellow Shrines lover! Perhaps it's nostalgia, since it was the very first brutal death album I listened to, but It's the only album of theirs I'd consider perfect. There's just something about its synth-y atmosphere that takes it a step further from their other albums.

After Shrines, it'd be Annihilation, then Those Whom. Never listened to any other albums.


Yeah, personally I'd also put Shrines #1. Though I would also have Those Whom the Gods Detest dead last, it was the first Nile album that actually disappointed me. Probably have Black Seeds in second place, with Annihilation and Ithyphallic tied at third. And it's not even that Those Whom was that bad, it just wasn't quite up to par for what I expect from Nile.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:09 pm 
 

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http://www.facebook.com/notes/nile/nile ... 3829360854

A little bump instead of a new thread. The album art is awesome, but it's always awesome with Nile.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:37 pm 
 

I like the LP artwork more.

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I never did check out the last album, they kind of lost me with Ithyphallic, how is it?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:45 pm 
 

Both artworks are, creepy. They both have their flaws / pros to them, too. Somehow I like the regular version since it isn't as cluttered. Still, the LP one, just for having more, seems fuller.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:21 pm 
 

I enjoyed reading Karl's word on it, saying something along the lines that the artwork is really dark and gloomy which is congruent with the state of mind behind the band's musical output at the moment. Maybe he's trolling us all but I'd love to see Nile go back to darker hymns.

Black Seeds Of Vengeance comes to mind! :)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:21 pm 
 

Oh man I cant wait to buy this!
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MalignantThrone
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:22 pm 
 

Yeah, that regular cover looks really lame - it has a really bad "this took ten minutes in Photoshop" vibe. Plus, the LP artwork reminds me of Pathologist:

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:23 am 
 

Aeonblade wrote:
I like the LP artwork more.

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I never did check out the last album, they kind of lost me with Ithyphallic, how is it?


Definitely a lot better than Ithyphallic that's for sure. Kafir and 4th Arra Of Dagon are two of my favorite Nile songs to date.

But yeah, the artwork does look pretty nifty and slightly reminiscent of the previous release. Can't wait to hear a sample!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:08 am 
 

That's one huge fucker of a scorpion. Creepy artwork, I love it.

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joppek
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:30 am 
 

the regular album art looks great
don't like the lp version much - it just looks like a hasty cut and paste job with the "add a big enough feather to the selection and it'll look ok" -mentality, rather than actually integrating stuff
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:41 am 
 

Nile rules ---- I'm stoked for this album.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:29 am 
 

Seth Siro Anton never fails. I love every cover he's done.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:19 pm 
 

TheMizwaOfMuzzyTah wrote:
Annihilation is lame. Black Seeds was horrid. Everything else ranges from pretty good to fucking awesome. I consider TWTGD to be fucking awesome. That record takes all of their various elements, concentrates them and manages to produce some tight, atmospheric and brutal tunes.


I never understood how anyone could hate Black Seeds if they like Nile. Then again, you can like whatever the fuck you want to like. I've been watching too much Hodge twins on Youtube.

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Errebuss
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:32 pm 
 

How can anyone be into Nile and not like In Their Darkened Shrines and Black Seeds of Vengeance? :scratch:

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:31 pm 
 

Necroghast wrote:
Seth Siro Anton never fails. I love every cover he's done.


I only can't stand the artwork he made for Soilwork but everything else is pretty much top notch.

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