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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:19 am 
 

vinterland_75 is 100% RIP-OFF, Stay away!

DON'T SET A DEAL WITH HIM, He Ripped me off, I paid him 43 euro 6-7 months ago but he didn't ship me anything and didn't refund my money.

He changed his nickname and returned again.


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Grief_Of_Adoration
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Desolator
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:49 am 
 

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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:56 am 
 

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ild
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:17 am 
 

anyone know the new nickname of this subhuman?

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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:04 pm 
 

Its the new nickname of him.

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Desolator
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:03 pm 
 

Alfio Munzone is the name of the guy you're talking about?
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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:46 pm 
 

Desolator wrote:
Alfio Munzone is the name of the guy you're talking about?


Yes, His name is Alfio Munzone.

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Third_of_the_Storms
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:52 pm 
 

Was he formerly isvind_75? If so he purchased 300-400$ worth of cds from me a few years ago, on different occasions. Never had a problem with him.
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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:37 pm 
 

Third_of_the_Storms wrote:
Was he formerly isvind_75? If so he purchased 300-400$ worth of cds from me a few years ago, on different occasions. Never had a problem with him.



No, I know isvind_75.

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vinterland_75
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Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:34 pm
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:46 pm 
 

Third_of_the_Storms wrote:
Was he formerly isvind_75? If so he purchased 300-400$ worth of cds from me a few years ago, on different occasions. Never had a problem with him.


Yes, it's me. After isvind_75 my nick was urgrund and now vinterland_75 (I've no much room in my mind to remind password). I didn't want to reply till now to this topic as I've really no time to follow such things but now I think it's time to reply (just 1 and no more) (not to Grief_of_Adoration...I have no time to follow forum flames - he haven't any proof I ripped-off him, I haven't any proof I didn't rip-off him) asking to mods to close this topic and remove my name from here. I challenge anyone to find another guy saying I ripped off him. If you find any keep this topic open. I can have more then 100 references. I sold many CDs/LPs here in the past years and as now f.ex. I'm selling on Italian truemetal.it forum. That's all.

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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:22 am 
 

Don't tell me a joke, I paid you 6 months ago for

01- Resuscitator - Iniciation (Wild Rags)
02- The Black - The Priest of Satan (Necropolis Records)
03- SEXORCIST


do you remember? I sent you many emails during months but you didn't reply to them, One day I sent you an email with another username with title of ''ORDER" on August 12 and you reply to it Instantly, then I asked you about my cds.


You told me on August 12, its exactly your words: (It proves you Ripped me Off):

"I'm not a rip-off. I never ripped-off anyone and I have more than 300 positive feedbacks on ebay. I don't check MA forum since many months so I don't see how I could read your PM and I didn't get any email for you in the last months [ITS ABIG LIE, I SENT YOU MORE THAN 15 EMAILS] .actually I have a life and I can't spend my time to follow a sell of a few CDs for about 1 year and more. Now, I'll not send to you any CD, I already sold some of them but also if I'd have all of them available I'd not send them anyway. The only thing I could do is refund you."

Then you disappered till now (I sent you more than 30 email(Including paypal for giving money back) during month but you didn't care to them)


In addition I can prove that I done payment through Paypal.

Why did you change your Nickname!!!? you forgot your password!!! hehehe, why don't you forget your password of your emails or ebay?

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Throne_of_Ahaz
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:45 am 
 

I would say most likely another one who suddenly decides to rip someone off. May be only the one case, but I would say if what GoA has written here is correct, Vinterland_75 has ripped him off and should therefore be avoided by all other users as a way of keeping fair trading alive.

Also, I don't get the nickname changes, being as you can request lost passwords by clicking a couple of buttons. Nicknames are normally changed by people who have ripped people off under one username and come back as another, seamingly decent trader later on under another.
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Desolator
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:04 am 
 

Will see if I ever get my CDs....
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into_the_pit
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:32 am 
 

well that guy also offered grief of adoration to refund him, which basically means he admits to having ripped him off.
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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:40 am 
 

Throne_of_Ahaz wrote:
I would say most likely another one who suddenly decides to rip someone off. May be only the one case, but I would say if what GoA has written here is correct, Vinterland_75 has ripped him off and should therefore be avoided by all other users as a way of keeping fair trading alive.

Also, I don't get the nickname changes, being as you can request lost passwords by clicking a couple of buttons. Nicknames are normally changed by people who have ripped people off under one username and come back as another, seamingly decent trader later on under another.


Thanks MATE,Yes, all of them are correct, Why didn't he defend himself!!!? If he didn't rip me off, he would defend himself clearly.

Maybe he will not rip-off someone else but he Ripped Me Off

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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:42 pm 
 

I checked, he is fuckin liar:

He joined as urgrund on "25 Apr 2008" and last visited on "08 May 2011", it means he has used this nickname for 3 years.

I have one question: How could he forget password of that nickname!!!!?

he woke up on "09 Oct 2011" and suddenly forgot the password and joined as "vinterland_75", it is a rational reason.

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vinterland_75
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Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:34 pm
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:12 pm 
 

Ok I'm a big rip-off. My goal is to become rich ripping-off people selling CDs from semi-unknown bands at 5 EUR.
This is last time I'll be on this forum so keep this topic open or do what do you want...I really don't care.
So guys still waiting my payments feel free to sell CDs I've on hold to anyone and guys who are going to pay for any CD I'm selling DON'T PAY anything.

ps1: do you know the password is sent to the registration email? if I don't use that email anymore how should I get the password?
ps2: I've proof Grief_of_Adoration is the messiah...look here...he wrote me:
"I'm the Messiah!!!!!!"
ps3: Desolator: you'll get he CD soon...don't need to write here anything btw as said via email I really don't care.

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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:35 pm 
 

Don't say nonsense, and don't Deceive me, you know exactly Ripped me Off.

Ok, If you aren't rip-off, give me back my money, its simple, isn't?

You have used this Nickname for 3 years, how can you forget it? and I know you checked my sent pms on NOV-OCT as urgrund user, cause my pms were in my outbox and when you read them, they went to my Sentbox. it was a smart of you to bring a map but I'm smarter than you!!!

By the way I'm not a messiah but I'm a man of integrity, but what about you!!?

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Desolator
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:19 am 
 

By the way, opposite to what we talked via e-mail, I'll write it here:
I don't know if the man has ripped off someone, but becouse all this shit he refunded my payment for the CDs he already sent to me.
We'll see if I will get anything, but this is definitely not a ripp offer's behaviour. In my case everyhting is OK with this guy.
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CMFlesh, Valgrinder, Throne Of Ahaz (x2), Mister Patate, Madcow, Skarpetteren (x2), SirHolm,turboeye, LegalizeMurder(x2),Sxull, Morholt, Luca_EW, TheHunter, NDK, sadp666, DTD, CombatFront, TheDesolateOne, Naedra, Mysticus (x2), Brandanschlag, avrlabel, Kubrat

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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:52 am 
 

Desolator wrote:
By the way, opposite to what we talked via e-mail, I'll write it here:
I don't know if the man has ripped off someone, but becouse all this shit he refunded my payment for the CDs he already sent to me.
We'll see if I will get anything, but this is definitely not a ripp offer's behaviour. In my case everyhting is OK with this guy.


Mr Desolator, He Ripped me Off, IT ISN'T SHIT. If he ripped you off, would you say its shit!!!?

He knows what he done to me, please don't say it is shit, you can deal with him, nobody prevent you.

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Desolator
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:12 am 
 

Yes, yes, I don't defend him, just sayin' what he did.
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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:38 pm 
 

Rip-off

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Bichorojo
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:33 am 
 

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=67830

or

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=16526

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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:52 am 
 

He Ripped me off, And he knows it, Please don't defend him.

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Desolator
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:39 am 
 

Vinterland_75 is NOT a rip off. Today I got the Forgotten Woods 3 CD box set and he refunded my money earlier.
A very honest guy indeed.
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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:28 pm 
 

Mr,Desolator, He Ripped me Off, Please read it carefully:

"I'm not a rip-off. I never ripped-off anyone and I have more than 300 positive feedbacks on ebay. I don't check MA forum since many months so I don't see how I could read your PM and I didn't get any email for you in the last months [ITS ABIG LIE, I SENT YOU MORE THAN 15 EMAILS] .actually I have a life and I can't spend my time to follow a sell of a few CDs for about 1 year and more. Now, I'll not send to you any CD, I already sold some of them but also if I'd have all of them available I'd not send them anyway. The only thing I could do is refund you."

It means he had a deal with me and I paid him, but he didn't ship anything to me, He Ripped me Off.

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Desolator
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:46 am 
 

Looks like I am the only guy he didn't ripped off and even sent me CDs for free :D
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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:41 pm 
 

You must pay him for the cds, its a RULE.

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Grief_Of_Adoration
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manes
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:31 am 
 

I bought from him on ebay, multiple times, no problem at all
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Grief_Of_Adoration
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:39 am 
 

manes wrote:
I bought from him on ebay, multiple times, no problem at all



I think you must read this one:

I paid him 6 months ago for

01- Resuscitator - Iniciation (Wild Rags)
02- The Black - The Priest of Satan (Necropolis Records)
03- SEXORCIST


I sent him many emails during months but he didn't reply to them, One day I sent him an email with another username with title of ''ORDER" on August 12 and he reply to it Instantly, then I asked him about my cds.


He told me on August 12, its exactly his words: (It proves he Ripped me Off):

"I'm not a rip-off. I never ripped-off anyone and I have more than 300 positive feedbacks on ebay. I don't check MA forum since many months so I don't see how I could read your PM and I didn't get any email for you in the last months [ITS ABIG LIE, I SENT YOU MORE THAN 15 EMAILS] .actually I have a life and I can't spend my time to follow a sell of a few CDs for about 1 year and more. Now, I'll not send to you any CD, I already sold some of them but also if I'd have all of them available I'd not send them anyway. The only thing I could do is refund you."

Then he disappered till now (I sent him more than 30 email(Including paypal for giving money back) during month but he didn't care to them)

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manes
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:47 am 
 

I got that, I am just saying that I dealt with him in the past and I had no problem, I am not doubting your words, I believe you man
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SARCASTIC
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:21 am 
 

Throne_of_Ahaz wrote:
I would say most likely another one who suddenly decides to rip someone off. May be only the one case, but I would say if what GoA has written here is correct, Vinterland_75 has ripped him off and should therefore be avoided by all other users as a way of keeping fair trading alive.

Also, I don't get the nickname changes, being as you can request lost passwords by clicking a couple of buttons. Nicknames are normally changed by people who have ripped people off under one username and come back as another, seamingly decent trader later on under another.



I agree.Can anyone infrom me about his nickname in e-bay?
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