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Ilwhyan
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:46 am 
 

Necros Christos - Tormented Flesh On The Mount Of Crucifixion

One of those bands that never really clicked with me despite their style and sound being right up my alley. Wholly listenable, even quite enjoyable, but strangely unsatisfying. Indeed simple, and the effect it has comes quite immediately, but the disappointing fact is that further listening seems to yield little more than what the initial reaction was. It's perhaps due to the fact that the vitriolic, mean riffing never goes further than the most basic delivery of certain notes in a certain succession - it lacks innovation and intensity. Even though the tempo is not slow (and yet is not fast either), the atmosphere is annoyingly lethargic, and not in the way of Incantation. Rather than letting me succumb into some brooding, dark aura, the music here merely goes by in its own peculiar fashion, and ultimately gives the impression that some major portion of the song is actually missing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJE1D6XSHT0
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:19 am 
 

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I knew when I posted that Necros Christos track, that I would get a polarising review. You see, I'm the exact opposite of all the negatives you mentioned, and can find little to fault with the band, as their brand of murky, yet classy atmosphere is, to me at least, brilliant. Stunning death to these ears and soul. But I do appreciate the candour :wink:


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Seeing as how I own this seven inch, I can't actually give anything but a positive review for this :lol: Baptism is one of the elite in the (modern I guess) Finnish black metal circles, whose sense of fire-eating melodic tendencies run deep and true to the spirit of black metal. There is a sense of grandiose, yet compact compositions within the beast that is Baptism, and are blissfully raw, yet still retaining the essential power and ferocity needed. This is a lesson in progression through regression, taking what came before, grabbing the torch and running full-tilt into the void with it.

Something Teutonic?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:44 am 
 

Desaster - "Thou Shalt Be King"

I've never heard of these guys, and unfortunately this will probably be my last experience with them. A decent mix of Teutonic thrash and black metal, but it's slower than what I associate with most of these genres, which makes it sound oddly weak and lifeless. The ingredients are there, but it just doesn't come together. The guitars have a very fuzzy and trebly tone which is good for black metal, and they do play some cool riffs, but there aren't any real solos, and this could do with some. Drums are decent but unspectacular, playing fairly standard mid-tempo extreme metal patterns. My one main gripe is with the vocals. Seriously, this guy just sucks. He sounds like St. Anger-era James Hetfield trying to record black metal vocals on the toilet. With a couple of solos and an increase in tempo, this might be better (these guys definitely have some musical talent, but they'd have to fire the "singer" first). Interesting, but doesn't appeal to me particularly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIBnWmT0ol0

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:41 pm 
 

raven - run silent run deep

I heard a lot of good things about Raven but I have to admit I never got around to checking them out. Based on just this song, it seems praise for them is certainly warranted. This song is a very solid piece of traditional heavy metal. It's got the aggression, the neo-classicism, and the epic feel that's typical to NWOBHM . That said, there isn't much to separate it out from the rest of the NWBOHM output. Still a solid piece of metal that I'd definitely recommend as a good example of traditional heavy metal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZD31PGleLk
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:57 pm 
 

Mythic- Lament Configuration

Oooooo an all female death metal band. This is pretty standard stuff, not much jumped out at me but it is very competently played mid-paced death metal. I liked how the vocals seemed to be "coming from somewhere else", a bit otherworldly. Like I said, decent, but if I saw this at a music shop for 5 bucks I might pick it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG07mCPiFpA
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:36 pm 
 

Diabolical Masquerade: "Under the Banner of the Sentinel"

I have the Nightwork album and think it's pretty cool, but never really got around to checking the older stuff. The drum machine is horrible, and this isn't Countess, so they can't entirely get away with this sort of thing. However, this is some very good heavy metal otherwise, with convincing rasped vocals. Opening riff (after the stupid drum intro) is wicked stuff and at 1:30 we're off with a literal bang into some quick, nimble picking. The strong clean vocals are very convincing and add a lot of bite to the song, and the fiery solos doing an imaginary tradeoff from left to right channel got me to grin. The last minute or less features a transition to a more sombre riff with some eerie keyboards; it's also very effective. Cool song that was just the right length for this sort of thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxB5wfoC6-Y
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:37 pm 
 

Varathron- Sacred Ahlat.

Hellenic black metal, am I correct? A style of BM I never checked out, never even heard Rotting Christ. This seems to be like if regular heavy metal transformed straight into black metal without all the evolution in between. I like the opening riff well enough, but I'm not crazy about the production at all. It sounds incredibly thin and weak. The riff that comes in at 1:04 is pure headbagning though. Upon closer listening, their drummer seems very active, and less triggered than one would expect. The slower part after this section is welcome, well placed, and perfectly executed, finally leading into some honest to God tremolo riffing. And at this point it's only halfway through the song. This is very riffy stuff, I dig it. My main qualm are the vocals. They suck, to put it shortly. But they are very easy to ignore as I noticed my mind was just naturally tuning them out and focusing on the 38384 good riffs. I'd recommend this to anyone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8lA2zs2Ez4
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:21 pm 
 

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@jerk: Sadly, the Desaster track is not their best, there are more 'thrashy'tracks in their recent discography, and the vocals are better too :)

@Necroticism174: I really liked your definition of Hellenic Black Metal, This seems to be like if regular heavy metal transformed straight into black metal without all the evolution in between It fits percetly well.


Anorexia Nervosa - Le Portail de la Vierge

The first seconds of the song, as well as the slow, little symphonic pieces reminded me of that part in 'Warlock' sampled by Mactätus on a track from their third album, in which the warlock goes "I am He whose coming the starts have foretold..." Seriously, I expected the voice to boom through the speakers at any time....

But no, it was the classic (and classical) approach of Anorexia Nervosa. I remember there was a certain fuzz about this band ten years ago and I decided to check them out, and this was precisely the album I checked out back then. The riffs, harmonies and melodies overlay with each other very nicely, teh fast druming, the violent guitar riffs serve well as a background to the screams of anguish and despair of the vocalist, (not your typical BM vocals, by the way) and well, the whiney tone of the voice during the french verses give the song a certain touch of uniqueness. I've always considered this guy a powerful vocalist. For those of you who haven't ckecked this band yet, this track could be a very good point to start with the band.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3z096uKbro
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:08 pm 
 

Sinister: "Art of the Damned"

I'm going to break my near-[policy of not reviewing stuff I already know pretty well and waxd about one of the best death metal bands on the planet, Sinister. This album came out just as my interest in death metal was barely hatched, and while I didn't quite recognise it at the time, this was a relieving album for many people...an old stalwart emerging with an amazingly true, violent and sincere death metal record in a time when all the old guards were jumping ship at an alarming rate. I think a lot of peopel at the time said that it sounded like Deicide, and while they were quick to point out that this was a fine thing, I think it misses the mark a bit..sure, Deicide if they'd honed their craft a lot more since Legion and hadn't gone the route of Once Upon the Cross, maybe. This is certainly one of the simpler tracks on this album, guitar-wise, containing a great deal of remorseless quick e-chugging, but it works because that is a pretty nice guitar tone they've got going on, and the drumming remains unpredictable and interesting throughout even the most simple riff patterns. The band are great musicians but don't really show off at all, carrying out tight and precise rhythm changes and pulling them off as though there was just nothing to it at all. Vocals are strong roars coming straight from the chest of a bear and are formidable! Toward the end we get one of the trademark Sinister menacing slower bits, with some high-end discord carried by the two guitar tracks adding some tension to this already commanding number...let's see Deicide try to pull that off! yes, I do like old Deicide a lot, by the way, but still, this is better!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVHgTSOmO2Y
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:02 pm 
 

Tyrant - Babylon

Straight-forward heavy metal with a lumbering tempo and heavy riffs, that traditional powerful style and an atmosphere that I can only describe as that standard, sweaty, bursting-with-testosterone heavy metal thing. The great thing is, it seems here an underlying ideology of music, if you will, rather than the sole thing the band wants to, and is capable of, conveying - Tyrant sounds sincere and true. However, the weakness of this song is its lack of variety. While it's not a huge fault in a five minutes long song, some degree of building up would benefit this kind of music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCTGzbwVJ3U
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Abominatrix
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:42 pm 
 

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Tyrant - Babylon

Straight-forward heavy metal with a lumbering tempo and heavy riffs, that traditional powerful style and an atmosphere that I can only describe as that standard, sweaty, bursting-with-testosterone heavy metal thing. The great thing is, it seems here an underlying ideology of music, if you will, rather than the sole thing the band wants to, and is capable of, conveying - Tyrant sounds sincere and true. However, the weakness of this song is its lack of variety. While it's not a huge fault in a five minutes long song, some degree of building up would benefit this kind of music.


Interestingly, that isn't the feeling I get from this song, as much of a muscular album as this one does tend to be. Whenever I listen to this I think of forbidden lost cities and fallen empires....of something ghostly and towering and dark, like an ancient haunted cathedral. The song doesn't really build to a climax because it's some kind of lonely, desolate journey....perhaps borne by some old, weary warriors...will they find the city of sin?


SVARTTJERN - "CODE HUMAN"

Loud and roaring, the only way to deal with this unpleasantness is to turn it up very loud. And unpleasant it is...cold, unfeeling and mechanical; it's as though the performers thought to make this a repellent experience, and they succeeded. I have no idea what the musicians are playing through most of the piece, and when the group locks into a more standard metal riff/rhythm they only reveal their stark rigid contrivance all the more. If this sounds negative, it's not meant that way, entirely; i actually do think this is what the group in question may have been going for, and while I can't much see myself turning to something like this, it reminds me of hearing Sort Vokter for the first time and thinking to myself, "well what the fuck?"...still, there was something more enjoyable about the experience in those days, I have to admit...or maybe it's just that particular almost robotic black metal sound has only been pulled off by a few that I could wholeheartedly champion at the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q2MBpYAqmE
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Thisguy
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:07 pm 
 

Abominatrix wrote:


Dumb intro, good song

here is mine (isn't the full version, but who cares)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W_zgW7SSIk

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:32 pm 
 

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Abominatrix wrote:


Dumb intro, good song


OH come on now...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:38 pm 
 

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If you're going to be an idiot and not take this seriously, refrain from posting.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:51 pm 
 

Flames - Eastern Front

Excluding the silly intro and the awkward start, sounds like a pretty good thrash song, as if I was hearing it through several walls... The riffs sound pretty fierce and almost catchy at times, when I can hear them that is, the howling solos are lovely, and the raspy vocals fit perfectly, but the momentum last very long and falters towards the end. Somewhat like they didn't know how to start or end the song, making it somewhat disjointed and hard to listen to. A lot of time I think a bad production can add a certain charm, but this is not doing anything for me (Youtube's fault?), I think it could of really been better with a clearer sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0vjilFwXHw

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:29 am 
 

Byrain wrote:
Flames - Eastern Front

Excluding the silly intro and the awkward start, sounds like a pretty good thrash song, as if I was hearing it through several walls... The riffs sound pretty fierce and almost catchy at times, when I can hear them that is, the howling solos are lovely, and the raspy vocals fit perfectly, but the momentum last very long and falters towards the end. Somewhat like they didn't know how to start or end the song, making it somewhat disjointed and hard to listen to. A lot of time I think a bad production can add a certain charm, but this is not doing anything for me (Youtube's fault?), I think it could of really been better with a clearer sound.


Wasn't suposed to be mini-reviews composed of four words? well, that's what the OP said.

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Byrain
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:32 am 
 

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Wasn't suposed to be mini-reviews composed of four words? well, that's what the OP said.


Read again and then look at all the other reviews.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:32 am 
 

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Wasn't suposed to be mini-reviews composed of four words? well, that's what the OP said.


Everybody forget that thing above, i checked the OP again and it says sentences, not words, my fault.

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Jonpo
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:37 am 
 

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Mindrot - Nothing

This is shockingly bad. My skin is crawling right now. I hate everything about it. Sounds like they set out to record something "extreme" with absolutely no thoughts towards any other aspect of the music...and it's not very extreme by metals standards. The riffing sounds like Korn sped up a bit. The guitar tone is loud and hollow. The vocals are alternating between nu-metallish barking and angsty whining/whispering. The gentle break at least provided a moment of respite from the ATROCIOUS riffing, but the vocals taking center-stage isn't much better.

This is so bad that I honestly don't like you, on a personal level, for posting it. I normally try to listen to a song a few times before I submit one of these things but I'm literally afraid to hear that again. The worst song I've heard in a long time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBV7v5-R2oY
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Lol! You don't like me for posting a song? I don't think I heard that one before. :lol:

Edit: Also, you really can't tell the difference between doom metal and nu-metal? :nono:

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This goes far deeper than "posting a song". No sir, what you linked me to was audio cancer. I was about to go to bed and I literally have to get up and put on a decent record now, just to clear that from my mind. My hands are still shaking a little bit from how much I despised every second of listening to that. I'm rarely at a loss for words but there's nothing in my lexicon that can succinctly illuminate how terrible that was on every single level.

Be honest with me, is this a band you enjoy? Or did you just feel like it was getting a little old having so many positive reviews piling up?

edit: ...am I being trolled? Did I hear the wrong song by mistake? On what PLANET could that be considered doom?
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Yes, I do like Mindrot, yes, they are doom metal, both MA and doom-metal.com agree as well as the reviewers on both sites, and no, I have had other people dislike songs I have posted in this thread. Though, no one else has used that as an excuse to hate me. :lol:

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As a doom fan I have to trust my ears over what a website says. Maybe they have some other songs that are doom...the debut perhaps? There was not a single moment of that song that I could recognize as doom metal, and I've now listened to it SEVERAL times. I would love to hear some other doom fans weigh in on this particular song, though it would be at their own risk.

And I wouldn't call it an "excuse" to hate you, moreso the most legitimate reason OF...ALL...TIME. I hope something turrrriiibbllle happens to you tomorrow!

Alright I'm gonna spin Pagan Altars first album now. Because I love doom.
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Actually, I heard they started as a thrash band, though I have never heard those demos. The debut sounds more or less the same as the second album and admittedly the other songs are a bit different then the one I posted (Less "aggressive"), but if you don't think that is at least as doom metal as other 90s doom/death (Stuff like Morgion, Black Lodge, Saturnus) then you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
But this is not going anywhere, I'mma stop now before I fatten the troll... :)

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Interestingly, that isn't the feeling I get from this song, as much of a muscular album as this one does tend to be. Whenever I listen to this I think of forbidden lost cities and fallen empires....of something ghostly and towering and dark, like an ancient haunted cathedral. The song doesn't really build to a climax because it's some kind of lonely, desolate journey....perhaps borne by some old, weary warriors...will they find the city of sin?
Perhaps its different in the context of the album. I rarely listen to music like that, but perhaps a couple of songs in the similar style would prepare the mind for the intricacies and subtleties of the song.
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Actually, I heard they started as a thrash band, though I have never heard those demos. The debut sounds more or less the same as the second album and admittedly the other songs are a bit different then the one I posted (Less "aggressive"), but if you don't think that is at least as doom metal as other 90s doom/death (Stuff like Morgion, Black Lodge, Saturnus) then you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
But this is not going anywhere, I'mma stop now before I fatten the troll... :)

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I don't think he's trolling, because 1) it is a pretty terrible song (save for the surprisingly cool solo in the middle) and 2) doom elements in this particular song are few and far between. Nonexistent until it gets to the slower part.
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Honestly I meant every single word except the stuff about not liking him on a personal level. I figured spelling "terrible" like I was Yosemite Fucking Sam would give away that I was just joking about that shit. Seriously though, that's one of the worst songs I've ever heard. I'm going to be glued to this thread today and I want to hear from some other people who check it out.

Byrain, you disparaged me for not being able to discern nu-metal from doom. I responded that it didn't sound ANYTHING like doom, after which you proceeded to add these qualifiers like "90s" and "death/doom". I don't listen to that shit. I've never heard a single one of those other bands you listed, and if they were even a sliver of inspiration for Mindrot then I'm confident this is still the correct course for my personal tastes. I guess its my fault for assuming that when you said doom, you meant DOOM.
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:lol:, you guys. Yeah, I have the first album and though I haven't listened to it in a while it did seem a lot doomier than this. The buzz around this band when the first album came out was really something, but I never quite thought they were all that, and reviews of the second album were terrible. I did hear the balladish "In the name of Silence" and it wasn't too bad, but honestly, I don't think Jonpo's Korn comparisons are too off the mark here. No way is this as doom as something like MOrgion...

Byrain, Flames's sound is indeed pretty awful; they are notorious for this. I think though that there's a certain charm to it, and I can even say that i think they were a bit ahead of their time and sometimes even a bit, well, weird. That song in particular pretty much sounds like violent 90s BM as far as I'm concerned. No doubt they're all amateur musicians, except for the guitarist, who sounds a bit like he lives on a different planet...


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Perhaps you're right that Tyrant's "Babylon" would convey these types of images to you if you heard it in its proper context. To me this band is very gothic in its atmosphere; Too late to Pray is not much like other heavy metal albums to come out of the USA at the time. I've never heard a so-called "true metal" band channel a dank, gothic atmosphere as I think can be found in this song, or at least, not one that isn't doom metal at all.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:07 am 
 

So much posting in so little time! How long have I been sleeping?! :metal:

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@Necroticism174: Glad you enjoyed that Reactor track. ANA is right, it's the SL Coe-led album, but to be fair, the band's been awesome before, during, and after his run with them. 'Farewell to Reality' certainly has the unique Coe charm and touch to it, though. I really liked this Agents of Oblivion song, by the way; pretty sure another track off of the same album was posted earlier on in the thread, but it didn't quite grab me by the balls like this one. Thanks! By the way, you post a lot of stuff with lyrics in French, and I can see you're from Québec; not a coincidence I take it?

@various:

Well, mid-period Samael is awesome, what else is new. :metal: Standard black metal rasp? I sure wouldn't say so; typical Samael/Alastis dark metal pissed-off grunt is what I'd say, but okay. Also, this upload was a nice demonstration of what I mean about YT links: it's gone already!

That Insomnium track is the melodeath equivalent of the dreaded Santa Metal syndrome I keep despising in modern power metal. I think Crushed's review did it justice: with a decent/adult/manly chorus, it'd be an awesome little song; but this hold-your-lighters-up,-you-sissies chorus would be more at home in a Linkin Park song. So, no thanks.

I quite enjoyed this Necros Christos song! Cake meets early Kreator meets Master's Hammer. Sloppy, weird, dissonant, hypnotic, and ultimately charming. Love that stuff! Thanks for the find.

Baptism's song isn't half bad, but I really have a problem with the sound. It's barely discernible during instrumental parts, but as soon as there are vocals, there's that weird-ass echo/reverb on the vocals themselves, and the way it muffles the music is rather frustrating. I also dislike, well not dislike, but shrug at the tremolo-picked 101 riff that's used for a good couple of minutes from about 3'00'' to 5'00''; it's about as exciting and refreshing as the welcome-to-hell riff in a traditional heavy song. Beyond that, this is punky yet somehow rather epic BM, and indeed there's more subtle melodies in there than initially meet the ear. Another nice find for me, thanks!

I'm with jerk on Desaster, pending confirmation that the YT upload isn't crippled sound wise. There are moments where it really feels like some tracks were left off in the mix, especially the whole wannabe epic break around 3'00'' and the ending: a faint arpeggio seems to have existed, but it's so far, far back in the mix I can barely acknowledge it's there at all. It does sound like a speed/evil thrash band forcing itself towards epic BM/folk, especially during the slightly faster tremolo-picked sections. Too bad.

@RedMisanthrope: You're generous; I wouldn't spend as much on something this amateurish and run-of-the-mill as this Mythic demo. I liked this Diabolical Masquerade track, fairly much what Abo said, except with far less enthusiasm for the basic AC/DC/Accept/80s Priest hard/heavy riff and the whammy-bar wanking, but much more enthusiasm for the Bewitched (SWE) style fast-paced speed metal with raspy vocals sections and the spine-chillingly awesome high-pitched wails versus deep, borderline gothic vocal acrobatics. Very nice discovery for me overall, so thanks a bunch. I'll explore this.

@Abo: You sure like your Varathron! :D This particular track got a mixed reaction from yours truly. On the one hand, I'm not a fan of the RW-derived happy happy folky passages, or the "modern" production values, and I actively dislike the "TADA-TADA! ___ TADA-TADA! ____" pseudo-modern/tech-sounding break that's overused in the beginning; on the other hand, I really enjoyed the rest of the song; it sounds much closer to stuff like Suidakra than it does their own earlier stuff, but it's very good and punchy melodeath. Also wow! You've shown such enthusiasm for Sinister, I'm really curious to check out other stuff by them; because this one song (I'm unfamiliar with the band) is nothing to write home about to me. I mean, it's fine, but so basic and conventional... Yeah, I'm quite curious. Also, glad to see the legendary "evil thrash" of Flames' 'Summon the Dead' brought up here, although I would have picked another track; and yes, to those who wondered, it sounds a TON better on the original vinyl than it does on the YT links currently available.

Yeah, Anorexia Nervosa are quite good at what they do; but Misanthrope is so much better that I have yet to be in the mood for the former and not turn to the latter instead.

I was slightly bored by the Tyrant song as well; it'd be excellent if it wasn't so long and repetitive. But they're awesome and can pack a much bigger punch than that, as they thankfully do in many other songs.

The Svarttjern track was quite a chore to sit through, it's neither bad nor good, it's just a neutral sonic stream that passively informs the listener that he is listening to black metal, and there isn't much more to say.

@Byrain & Jonpo: I'll tread lightly, but I'm really intrigued by this discussion. This track is much closer to Roots-era Sepultura than it is anything doom, and that is too obvious a fact to ignore. It's certainly not anywhere near 90s death/doom either. The first couple of minutes I can entirely see where Jonpo drew his comparisons to nu-metal from: this is groove metal at best, and MTV metal if I'm being honest. Then, yeah, well... The unending slower section with the light, basic arpeggio and the classic progression from there to the end of the song wants to be epic, and might be where this idea that it's doom comes from. It fails hard for me, as you need an emotionally touching, minor scale melody for this type of thing to work, and this is not the case; it's just the envelope of an epic moment, but a hollow shell all the same. Now, Jonpo was repulsed by this stronger than I would expect, and it's almost as if it were his first ever exposure to derivative this boring groovy tough guy type of metal, but if this is actually representative of the band's style, then I'm certainly not afraid to firmly state that "Doom Metal" is a blatantly erroneous and misleading tag. And I find no redeeming value to this song, although I wouldn't go as far as hating it, let alone the one who posted it. :D

@Thisguy: Yeah, don't be that guy. :nono:


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First of all, I had to check the track length to verify the YT upload was indeed complete. It's so short and ends so abruptly I thought it was cut. Turns out it's just the grind tradition of ultra short songs at work. Well, I'm not impressed. The bulk of the song is your typical assboring, lazy-as-fuck thrash/punk/HC 101 riff and vocal delivery combo (ie, a riff made of 90% fast open chord chugging + the infamous "woof! woofwoofwoof,-woofwoofwoof,woofwoofwoof-woof!" vocal line I mentioned earlier on pertaining to some Testament and Dark Angel songs, among many other uninspired thrash moments. The mini-bridge at the end of said verse riff is much nicer (as first heard at 0'17''), albeit very conventional too. The production is terrible and muddy, the musicianship is lacking, it's debatable whether there's actual songwriting to talk about or not (and if it wasn't entirely improvised in the studio, then their compositional skills are awfully low), and the "solo" is basically just a larsen. In sharp contrast, the drumming is pretty energetic, precise and enjoyable, and the pissed off, slightly growly vocals are pleasant in and off themselves, despite the despicable vocal line they serve. All in all, nothing worth much more than 1'26'' of my time indeed.

Turn the volume the fuck up, this YT upload is ridiculously low (but otherwise faithful enough):
with a nod to the failsafeman, I give you this!
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@LegendMaker
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I love this thread...ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!

You may be right as far as my reaction being so strong because of it being my initial exposure to that "style". I absolutely try to insulate myself from terrible music as much as possible, and there's a lot of stuff I just dismiss on sight without listening to. I couldn't wrap my head around how awful every aspect of it sounded to me. From the vocals to the riffs, even the lyrics, I swear to god he shouts "I'M ALONE IN THE RAIN" at one point in that song! Get the fuck out of here with that shit...

Hahah posting that Repulsion track was totally a knee-jerk reaction to what I had just heard/reviewed. I just wanted to listen to something that would hit the reset button on my brain. I worship the ground that Horrified walks on but I wasn't naive enough to expect a positive review for it. Thanks for giving it a chance though, especially as it sounds like grind is not your thing. I do think something went a little wonky with that upload as it cuts off just a second or two early, but the song was definitely over.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:37 am 
 

Lol, at LegendMaker's description of Repulsion's vocals. I'm not a fan of grind usually but I do really like this album, even though you're not incorrect in any of your assessments.

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Oops, did I post Varathron already? I just started going through the thread again yesterday, from the beginning, trying to keep track of all the bands mentioned thus far. Actually I thought someone else had posted the band and not me, but perhaps you're right...in any case, I do really like them, and there hasn't been much talk anywhere about their quietly-released most recent album, so I thought I'd show something. I do like the more archaic sound they had better too, but on the other hand I enjoy the hell out of the way they've developed musically and find the playing on this new one very satisfying for the most part...those guitars (!!!)

Hmm, good call on the Flames. I had a feeling most people here wouldn't like it much; I probably could have chosen a more attention-grabbing tune or something...like, the one you posted!

Necros Christos...Cake? Where does that come from?



And now!:

A Tortured Soul: "Dark Chapel"

Failsafe turned me on to this band too. I have some reservations about the singer's falsetos, which sometimes sound out of place/shaky/not-even-hitting-the-correct-notes, but I can forgive because his deeper voice is fantastic, and besides, nobody in my band can sing that well anyway. :lol: The sound is modern but somehow backward-looking in a wise and thoughtful way, with probably some influences from thrash and oom both taht take this far beyond the realm of another "true metal throwback" group. The riff changes are tasty and the solo oozes total class. I really appreciate the dark and ominous sound this band manages to bring forward all the time...they actually don't sound much like Mercyful Fate at all but the mood is definitely there. When the singer is operating within his comfortable range, he almost reminds me of Harry Conklin; plenty of attitude in that delivery, and a certain menacing gruffness that makes him sound full of evil intent without having to try too hard. May I just say though, at the risk of sounding like a broken record, that that drum sound is pretty poor; never listened to the band on headphones before and unfortunately they only highlighted the artificial nature of the kit. It actually makes me curious as to whether this band has demos floating around where the drummer might have banged on something real. I'm coming across as someone who hates electronic drum sounds on principle and that just isnt' the case, however generally I would highly prefer for metal and rock music not to have them.

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@LegendMaker, nope it's not a coincidence, very perceptive my friend. It's cool that you liked the track, it's one of my favourite records.

Auroch- Les Hordes Sauvages

This was quite strange. The riffs being played are somewhat metal but the tone is so lightweight that it has no impact whatsoever. It only works when it comes to the solo, which I liked a lot (it lasts just long enough, no overstaying it's welcome). The riffing itself is satisfying though, very melodic. The drums are just there, I could probably play those patterns and I'm not a drummer. But, all in all, this is more hard rock than metal in my book and it's not wise to only judge it on such a technical level. Was it enjoyable? Yes it was. Were the vocals Awesome? Fuckin' A they were. That opening distant high note brought a smile to my face.
Edit: I made it 26 seconds into the track Byrain posted. Why man, why?
I don't think this band has been linked to in this thread so far:

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@ Necroticism
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WTF man...you don't consider that track to be 100% metal? Are we even hearing the same thing? Do you not consider Mercyful Fate, Saxon, Accept to be metal, either?

But seriously, I'm glad you liked the song; I actually discovered this band totally by accident as I was looking to listen to the Canadian Auroch after seeing their album in someone's distro. Turned out this old French Auroch is much, much better, though it seems they never released much at all. I love that guitar and drum tone..sure, it's not very thick and heavy, but it's sharep and clear and ..oh hell, just turn it up louder!
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I think it's just on the fence. I could see how most people would consider it metal. Those three bands you named have beefier and more metal riffs. Even the solo was rockish. If you remove the palm muting from the main riff though, it's undeniably heavy rock. But like I said, that's me. And I did turn it up, is there any other way to properly enjoy this kind of music? :) The vocals were definitely my favourite part.
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@ Necroticism:
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Ok. Well, I don't really agree; I love hard rock actually, and I think a band like Saxon is way more "on-the-fence" than this, and certainly rock solos are a part and parcel of a lot of 80s metal. But whatever, you enjoyed the song quite a bit; that's the main thing I was aiming for. :P


Cattle Decapitation: "The Gardeners of Eden"

First time listening to this band. I like the way the band's initial attack melds with the...animal noises. I have to be honest; when I first saw the track length I groaned a little inside..."six minutes??"...but the song ended up being a good deal more dynamic than I first expected. More kind of fake sounding drums...I suppose I should resign myself to the fact that people actually like that, and anyway, this isn't really too bad except for that distinctly un-bass-drum-sounding bass drum. Nice use of the stereo picture with vocals coming at you from both sides, and pretty strong vocals at that, though I think they are a bit too much the focus of the song. The guitar tone isn't really good enough to sustain a real heaviness while those growls are roaring all over the place. An effective slow part at two minutes brings in some surprising use of melody and even a clean guitar track, I think...this band could do some pretty effective doom parts if they wanted to. There are some neat guitar tricks and a quite menacing feeling to this whole song. The last minute was, aside from the cool echo suddenly appearing on the vocal track, quite boring, with the drummer doing what sounds like a constant roll on the snare that got annoying pretty fast....do people think of this as a type of blastbeat nowadays?

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Cattle Decapitation - The Gardeners of Eden

It's one of those technical death metal acts who go all over the place musically, managing to churn out satisfyingly brutal and intense though never outstandingly great music, but ultimately dig their own grave with the constant tempo and style changes, and in this song, incredibly stupid, ie. abrupt, changes at that. The individual riffs are at best really good, I especially enjoyed the sorrowful riff before the three minutes mark (repeated before the end of the song aswell). The coherence of the song is minimal, and I find it rather perplexing that anyone would want to include such musical opposites into one song. Ironically, the brutal technical parts are completely average run of the mill stuff compared to the melodic, sorrowful parts, and what potential said brutal riffing has is ruined by moronic rhythmical choices. I did enjoy the song, even though at times the music subtly approached that style of modern technical death metal that is the auditory equivalent of being repeatedly slapped in the face with a sizable erect penis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1LKurAzmEg

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Mindrot sounds a bit like if Bolt Thrower contracted aids from Meshuggah and decided to go nu-metal.
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I can't even argue with that masterful deconstruction. I enjoy it for what it is. I think the whole schizophrenic changes thing really adds to the overall insanity. The part with the gravity blast towards the end of the song is also one of my favourite uses of that kind of blast.
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Oops...sorry Ilwhyan, I edited my previous post to include the Cattle Decapitation review; thought I could get it in on time. :lol:
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:06 pm 
 

No problem, next reviewer may review either, or both, for all I care. It's not like I put great effort into choosing my song. It's interesting that we managed to write about the song from completely different perspectives.

As for the drumming in the end of that CD song, many of those really fast snare blast beats are gravity blasts, and since that technique uses only one stick for snare and leaves the other free to lead, it counts as a blast beat. I don't like it myself, though I'm a sucker for fast blasts where snare plays 16th notes.
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