You just answered your own question; it's metalcore. It's not metal, sorry.



1. The problem with Flittering is that it's a many-headed beast. Not only is the music on the ambient/drone side of music, but the controversy tends to support it being a hoax or a fake. We once had Flittering in MA many, many years ago. It was added by mistake, and its removal was based on the project having dubious existence and uncertain metalness. It's not the controversy or the debate that makes it unacceptable, it's the reality that it is not legitimate.

2. Cheers. Greatly appreciate your understanding, man.



Seems predominantly grindcore/powerviolence. It is still not acceptable, sorry.


With those song samples in mind, I'm leaning towards not acceptable. It sounds predominantly -core, with some sludge elements. Though those sludge elements do not automatically equate to metal enough, as is the case here.


Can you please refrain from commenting in this thread, unless it pertains to you? You've been asked before.

Totally man, I figure it must be hellish work keeping track of all our bitching.

Well here is a newspaper http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos- ... 7620_n.jpg where you can read that there are 2 demos under "Casino Records" also here is a promo for the premiere of the first demo http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos- ... 2841_n.jpg

Also the announce on FB http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9441/dibujopju.jpg (translated it says "August 6th, presentation of the new record on "Puro Ruido" 10 free discs to the first 10 persons")

OK, Resubmit.

I feel you man but I've come to a different vibe after reading all the Flittering threads. It's my opinion that some knuckleheads were trying to hype it up for a possible boot, an figured it was unknown enough to get away with that shit. But now that it's surfaced and I agree it's a stretch calling it funeral doom but it's really intense shit though and I have to concede that it's legitimate. It's not too far outside the metal sphere but I'm no expert & that's my 2 cents worth. Man it's a shame I struck out with all 3 band submissions.
I'm better suited for drinking and listening!

I'm glad we haven't killed your enthusiasm, mate. Kind of wish more users would respond as civilly as you have.


Well, just remember that extremity isn't limited only to metal.

Brother I love Metal-Archives, I've discovered a lifetime of new music from the folks on here & I believe we should all be unified with respect for each other. Thank you for the kind words man.



I'm just now discovering that & kicking my own ass for all my years as a closed minded fucker.

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Kil ... ngage/3075
http://www.metal-archives.com/search?se ... band_genre

Dude , Killswich Engage are metalcore........and all this bands are too. So, are you kidding me??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHR2p06XnEg
I don't understand why you refused (and blacklisted) this band, they're definitely drone/doom metal...

Seriously... I was wondering what do you get once you mix Dystopia with Sleep, Kylesa and Ludicra Anastatica is not metal for your ears

That was honestly some of the most neutered sludge I've ever heard. No real riffs. None.

Well honestly man this was metal, what do you mean by "real riffs"?

There were a few metallic leads, but most of it was pure, sludgy bass.

Derigin couldn't hear any real metallic riffs, either.

Could Azmodes or Doomsday listen to the band please http://anastatica.bandcamp.com/ ?

You don't get to choose the mods who judge the music, simply on the basis that you think they might be more forgiving and more willing to let it pass. We're not one's parents; just because "dad" says no, doesn't mean you can run to "mom" and have her say yes. That's not how we work, and that's really rather insulting.

It's not the way you are seeing it. I don't "choose" the mods, I'm just asking for another opinion from the mods that tends to be more familiar with this kind of music. This is not either insulting but rather a way to get a more appropriate opinion in order to cover every single genre in metal. Therefore to help this site become the best web resource for true heavy metal, as you say in your automated emails. In the other hand, pretending to be familiar with every single genre in metal, denying the fact that maybe you could be wrong regarding the genres that you are not quite familiar with and acting with obvious superiority, well this my friend is indeed insulting.

Trust us in knowing what fits towards MA's conception of "metal enough" for this encyclopedia. That conception is unique to this site; it does not match how I think about metal, or any other mod thinks about it. The same is true for users; you have your own beliefs as to what is "true heavy metal" that diverge from the site's, and - in most cases - because you "joined the site to mainly submit borderline bands" your own ideas about metal are sharply different than MA's.

I, nor any other mod, pretends to be familiar with every single genre. What we do know is what is metal enough for this encyclopedia, and - when in doubt - we ask eachother or get second opinions. You've had two mods respond to this band, you've gotten your answer.

Hi
The band Boggart was rejected and blacklisted but I still think the EP is mainly metal...
Give it a listen please:

http://www.mediafire.com/?lk0c3zlf2ke2065

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Kil ... ngage/3075
http://www.metal-archives.com/search?se ... band_genre



You have no answer me, maybe because you know you're wrong???

Read that and stop arguing, the decision was made.

I think nobody has answered me: why the band Signal was not accepted??
It' metalcore; but in this site there are a lot of metalcore bands.
If you answer me clearly ( you can tell me what genre is in your opinion , for example) I'll stop writing .

For now, I think that you are abusing your powers.
If someone has not familiarity with a genre, simply don't make a decision for that band. But Derigin says:


and it's a contradiction:
http://www.metal-archives.com/search?se ... band_genre
So , I want only a true answer and not falsity or incorrect answers.

There's a spectrum of metalcore, from pure core to almost metal. The bands on the MA are from the end closest to metal.

Just being labelled "metalcore" does not equal acceptance here, I'm afraid. Without really being willing to check the band in this case, I'd bet it's simply something with a core dosage few degrees too high.

Listen up! These mods have over a THOUSAND fucking posts man and in my book that means they live and breath this shit. I think those of us with a handful of posts should calm down and respect these cats, they're the ones that must filter through all our bitching and submissions day in and day out. Somebody has to make the decisions & they've proven themselves already, man this site is
without peer imo.

I created a page for a Greek band Generator, because you said ''there was no evidence of a physical release''. How can I verify this release of their demo?

Pictures of the release. A scan of the cover will not do. A review or an ad will be even better. Something that mentions a cd, mc, vinyl etc.
A link where you can buy the physical album/demo/release.

I wanted to submit the band called Prime Prophecy (United States), but there is a warning, that the band is blacklisted. Why? I have a link to proof the existence of physical release: http://oi43.tinypic.com/mskxap.jpg

I submitted a band named neurasthenics that was rejected , I'm creator of this band, I know why is rejected.

If the song samples on MySpace were anything to go by, then chances are the band was blacklisted for being djent/mathcore/prog. Looking past the power metal-ish vocals and keyboards, there's a lot of -coreish chugging that doesn't constitute a metal release by our standards.


So you mean to tell us you already know why it was rejected, or... you don't know why it was rejected?

Either way, your band is dark ambience, not metal. Why are you submitting it to a metal site...?

If you're about to say that it's because there's other dark ambient projects here, then you should know that the dark ambient bands on MA are side-projects of well-known/established musicians in the metal scene. There's also a selected exception for Les Legion Noires.

Ok, thanks ^^

I submitted the band Imminent Sonic Destruction, the new name of the band formerly known as Mellotrön, but it was rejected for the following reason:

Can you please provide proof of metalness (a link to song samples) and proof of a physical (Tape, CD, Vinyl, etc.) release?

Song samples (actually full-length stream at SoundCloud):
http://www.guitarworld.com/unsigned-spotlight-imminent-sonic-destruction-stream-new-album-recurring-themes

Proof of physical release:
http://imminentsonicdestruction.com/destructstore/
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/imminentsonicdestruction

M'kay, you can resubmit. But make sure to include the new URLs in the submission notes.

D'oh! Looks like ISD is in the queue from someone else already...

Resubmit. I see GraveWish was trying to get in first before you could.

Hi!

I just wanned to ask something.

I added my band, called Netherworld, and wrote that it's a hard rock band. It was rejected, and I understand that, but why am I able to find so mani rock band on encyclopaedia than? I mean, I don't understand, but I'm not here because of this

We actually began to play something more like melodic metal... and we 'll be releasing a demo soon (I 've also noticed that you have to release at least one record to submit a band here after reading the rules more carefuly), so can I add the band than? I can send you the demo so you can be sure it's metal.

Yes, let us know once it's finished being recorded and we'll reevaluate.

Hello, I have sumbitted a band called "Sale Hope" (Grindcore from France)

The band has been rejected because of two things:
-Proof Physical: The band releases were "J'ai les kros", the release was released by Trouduc Records and the split with M.D.U.
More info here: http://www.discogs.com/MDU-Sale-Hope-Le ... se/2736941

-Proof Metalness: All tracks can be listened in this site http://salehope.chez-alice.fr/salehope/index.php
Actually the Vocals IS Grindcore, music listenes like Death/Thrash Metal

I still don't think Crystalmoon should be blacklisted,
but in the end it comes down to the moderators
if it's accepted or rejected. I don't have much say
in the matter, but I feel like I have gathered enough
information about the band to prove that it is in fact
ambient black metal and is metal enough for the Metal
Archives.

The only thing I ask is you please listen
to the new demo and then make your final
decision rather Crystalmoon should remain
blacklisted or not. Thank you.


http://www.archive.org/details/Crystalm ... OfColddemo

"Festered Torso was blacklisted because theres no proof of physical release"

Physical? Bob Egler Releases absolutely EVERITHING what he makes, The earlier (and some new) releases were mostly very limited (at least 10, 20 or 30), every release is possible to find contacting him (well,most of his releases were "Lost", Sold-Out Or Probably Droped in a Trash Can), He releases everithing. (Also this was released http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Cr ... oss/313152)

Have a Nice Day

What's with this stupid message? Didn't you notice that the submission was a cdbaby submission, a typical GraveWish submission. The band was added to cdbaby yesterday, the day I tried to submit it here. Do you think I'm a faggot to regularly check this thread, or any other thread, if I didn't have anything to say? Well sorry but I don't check threads for random readings and will never do. This is your job not mine. Please stop being an ass and learn some respect.