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PeachPit
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:48 am 
 

Dear Thrash gods, I am looking for more progressive material, in the vein of New York's Children:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7bDO4Da9Y

... But not so similiar as to be a clone or something. I like good production, so preferably something more modern. If anyone could point me in the direction of a couple of names, that would be great!

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Astrum502
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:19 am 
 

If you like thrash that is like:
Destruction
Kreator
early Megadeth...


I just found this band and bought their CD, and it is awesome, to me.
REZET.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTEvPCWVLiM

I can't imagine anyone not liking this, if they like the bands I mentioned.
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The_Apex_of_Collapse
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:16 am 
 

Good find, Astrum502. Something I will have to track down. Love the vocals.
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metroplex
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:45 pm 
 

Very nice, i like it.

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EquimanthornBathory
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:37 pm 
 

I am in need of thrash albums with really long ( 8 minutes and up ) and complex songs. Any genre of thrash will do but preferably prog thrash. I want something smarter than the usual mainstream stuff. Something mindblowing :D

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deadweight2
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:54 am 
 

EquimanthornBathory, how about Intense's As Our Army Grows?

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deadweight2
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:57 am 
 

EquimanthornBathory, another suggestion: Heaven's Gate's Livin' in Hysteria. (You might also try Risk's The Reborn, though it didn't do anything for me.)

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STORMM
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:13 am 
 

EquimanthornBathory wrote:
I am in need of thrash albums with really long ( 8 minutes and up ) and complex songs. Any genre of thrash will do but preferably prog thrash. I want something smarter than the usual mainstream stuff. Something mindblowing :D


Def not prog but check out Sabbat (u.k.) "Dreamweaver", a stunning release both epic and complex.

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HamburgerBoy
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:24 am 
 

There aren't many tech/prog-thrash bands with any songs that into the 8+ minute range, let alone regularly, but try Deathrow's Deception Ignored, Watchtower's Control & Resistance, and Mekong Delta's Dances of Death. Not as progressive and you might know them already, but check out Dark Angel's Time Does Not Heal and Heathen's Victims of Deception as well.

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Madthrashingmatt
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:59 pm 
 

EquimanthornBathory wrote:
I am in need of thrash albums with really long ( 8 minutes and up ) and complex songs. Any genre of thrash will do but preferably prog thrash. I want something smarter than the usual mainstream stuff. Something mindblowing :D


Check out Dark Angel's album Time Does Not Heal. It progressive Thrash and was famous for having a sticker that read: "9 songs, 67 minutes, 246 riffs!"

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The_Apex_of_Collapse
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:04 pm 
 

HamburgerBoy wrote:
but try Deathrow's Deception Ignored



Holy hell, I heard the first two albums and enjoyed them to an extent but they never left a lasting impression which led to me never giving this album a chance, but this is a thrash master work with huge replay value through and through. Thanks for the yt link, Hamburgerboy, because I would of likely passed over this album otherwise.

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Misfit74
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:20 pm 
 

The_Apex_of_Collapse wrote:
HamburgerBoy wrote:
but try Deathrow's Deception Ignored



Holy hell, I heard the first two albums and enjoyed them to an extent but they never left a lasting impression which led to me never giving this album a chance, but this is a thrash master work with huge replay value through and through. Thanks for the yt link, Hamburgerboy, because I would of likely passed over this album otherwise.

Cheers


I really liked Deathrow's first couple albums but have not yet heard 'Deception Ignored'. Sounds like it's about time I do. :)
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androdion
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:37 pm 
 

Misfit74 wrote:
I really liked Deathrow's first couple albums but have not yet heard 'Deception Ignored'. Sounds like it's about time I do. :)

It's like going from Deathwish to Watchtower really, it's a real 180 that one!
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The_Apex_of_Collapse
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:26 pm 
 

Yeah, they definitely went from the more straight forward thrash concept to a complete technical onslaught. This may very well prove to be the top tech-thrash album in my arsenal.
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colin040
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:46 am 
 

Is there anything similar to Sepultura's Schizophrenia out there? Thrash with a shitload of riffs, raw production and raspy vocals. If it's from Brasil it's a plus, but it's not neccessary.

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androdion
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:01 am 
 

colin040 wrote:
Is there anything similar to Sepultura's Schizophrenia out there? Thrash with a shitload of riffs, raw production and raspy vocals. If it's from Brasil it's a plus, but it's not neccessary.

Only thing that immediately comes to mind is Torture Squad, albeit not as raw.
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tehfoks
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:57 pm 
 

colin040 wrote:
Is there anything similar to Sepultura's Schizophrenia out there? Thrash with a shitload of riffs, raw production and raspy vocals. If it's from Brasil it's a plus, but it's not neccessary.


Raw? Raspy? Shitload of riffs?, try Morbid Saint. Something tells me you're gonna love them. Or maybe Sabbat (UK). Especially "A History of a Time to Come". Riffffffffffs.

Also seconding Torture Squad. Pandemonium and Hellbound are great albums. :thumbsup:
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colin040
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:33 pm 
 

tehfoks wrote:
colin040 wrote:
Is there anything similar to Sepultura's Schizophrenia out there? Thrash with a shitload of riffs, raw production and raspy vocals. If it's from Brasil it's a plus, but it's not neccessary.


Raw? Raspy? Shitload of riffs?, try Morbid Saint. Something tells me you're gonna love them. Or maybe Sabbat (UK). Especially "A History of a Time to Come". Riffffffffffs.

Also seconding Torture Squad. Pandemonium and Hellbound are great albums. :thumbsup:


Yeah I'm familiar with Morbid Saint. They're pretty good.

Haven't heard of Sabbat though, so I'll check those out.

Heard Torture Squad's Pandemonium which is decent...though it doesn't really remind me of Sepultura.

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KC_Slaanesh
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:21 pm 
 

Hey colin check out Invocator's Excursion Demise album. It's a lot slower than Sepultura but other than that it fits all your criteria.
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androdion
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:43 pm 
 

KC_Slaanesh wrote:
Hey colin check out Invocator's Excursion Demise album. It's a lot slower than Sepultura but other than that it fits all your criteria.

Good call!
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eratni
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:38 pm 
 

EquimanthornBathory wrote:
I am in need of thrash albums with really long ( 8 minutes and up ) and complex songs. Any genre of thrash will do but preferably prog thrash. I want something smarter than the usual mainstream stuff. Something mindblowing :D


Definitely try Vektor - Black future album, its mfkin masterpiece, very influenced by mentioned deathrow and similar groups..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVFR7uKY ... re=related

I hope 13:32 is enough for you :-D

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tehfoks
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:56 pm 
 

eratni wrote:
Definitely try Vektor - Black future album, its mfkin masterpiece, very influenced by mentioned deathrow and similar groups..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVFR7uKY ... re=related

I hope 13:32 is enough for you :-D


Accelerating universe is out of this fucking world. :thumbsup:
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Inundium
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:28 am 
 

Check out Blood Tsunami from Norway.

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colin040
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:08 pm 
 

Is there anything similiar to Coroner's Mental Vortex? Thrash metal that's not too riff-oriented, nor blazing fast, has some groove moments here and there without turning into a literal chugga chugga fest. I'm NOT looking for something with ''tough'', loud harsh vocals (see Pantera, later Sepultura) as I can't stand these kind of vocals. A plus if there's killer guitar solos around, but I don't find this neccessary.

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KC_Slaanesh
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:21 pm 
 

Well that's a tough one, Mental Vortex is a masterwork and definitely my favorite Coroner album. It's kinda mellow and jazzy, so based on that you could try Mekong Delta, specifically The Principal of Doubt album. Watchtower can get pretty jazzy too with some legit soloing.

Also Colin what did you think of Invocator?
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colin040
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:27 pm 
 

Ah thanks, will check that band out.

Honesty...I haven't checked Invocator out yet. But I will soon, don't worry!

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androdion
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:00 pm 
 

colin040 wrote:
Is there anything similiar to Coroner's Mental Vortex? Thrash metal that's not too riff-oriented, nor blazing fast, has some groove moments here and there without turning into a literal chugga chugga fest. I'm NOT looking for something with ''tough'', loud harsh vocals (see Pantera, later Sepultura) as I can't stand these kind of vocals. A plus if there's killer guitar solos around, but I don't find this neccessary.

Try this one, very underrated album!
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eratni
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:26 am 
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzxuLBnY3yE what does this reminds to you? I think it sounds little coronerish, artillerish

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suleiman
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:57 am 
 

deadweight2 wrote:
EquimanthornBathory, how about Intense's As Our Army Grows?


anthrax - persistence of time

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Mechanix11
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:31 pm 
 

hey i have posted a question here, but i really want to know some very good crossover thrash bands, any good ones?
i have listened D.R.I., S.O.D., Nuclear Assault and Municipal Waste by far and other ones but i dont remember their names

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AcidWorm
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:45 pm 
 

For more good crossover then check out Wehrmacht, Cross Examination, Leeway, Rumble Militia, Suicidal Tendencies, and Cryptic Slaughter
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Misfit74
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:18 pm 
 

AcidWorm wrote:
For more good crossover then check out Wehrmacht, Cross Examination, Leeway, Rumble Militia, Suicidal Tendencies, and Cryptic Slaughter


I second Wehrmacht, Suicidal, and CS for sure.

I would also add the band Excel with their albums 'Split Image' and 'The Joke's On You'. DRI would be another.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:24 pm 
 

AcidWorm wrote:
For more good crossover then check out Wehrmacht, Cross Examination, Leeway, Rumble Militia, Suicidal Tendencies, and Cryptic Slaughter

I have already listened to ST, and i would check the other ones lml

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The_Apex_of_Collapse
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:55 pm 
 

Been listening to Necronomicon's Escalation and the song Death toll just kicks my ass with its excellent use of gang shouts each time I play it. Recommend me some thrash like the link below, or any form of thrash you can think of with crazy amounts of gang shouting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD7mFYmxpcY
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:04 pm 
 

Is anyone else here pumped as all hell for the new Overkill?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:21 am 
 

Xlxlx wrote:
Is anyone else here pumped as all hell for the new Overkill?


Um, no. :boo:
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luisX
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:50 am 
 

Hi guys,can you recommend me some great thrash albums? well,im not looking for anything especific,just geat riffs,rythmin,memorable songs,etc,some of my favourite albums are Bonded by blood,South of Heaven,Beneath the Remains,Horrorscope,The new Order,Ride the Lighting,Extreme Agression,then there is Sodom,Heathen,Forbidden,etc but i want something new (not necesary recent) ...some of the underground stuff that i have heard (i mean,the really underground,not Xentrix,Num Skull,etc) don´t convince me,and modern thrash,is not band but aside from Torture Squad,not any other band have clicked on me.Sometimes i have the feeling that i heard everything that i could enjoy,anyway here are some of the bands that i have listened (haven´t listened to all the stuff obiously) http://www.lastfm.es/user/veyita_88/lib ... rash+metal

Also if you know any groove metal but with real thrash influences,i mean,something like Cowboys from hell,Burn my Eyes or Resurrection (Chimaira) is a genre with "potential" but it can get kind of dumb or boring,anyway i like some of it.

Thanks for any possible recommendation.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:49 pm 
 

Misfit74 wrote:
Xlxlx wrote:
Is anyone else here pumped as all hell for the new Overkill?


Um, no. :boo:

C'mon man, I'm just trying to start a conversation over here.....
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luisX
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:18 pm 
 

I heard a song (electric rattlesnake) at it seems that it will be pretty good,considering how good Ironbound was im not surprised, but this may ben even better.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:23 pm 
 

If they finally decide to write a couple more doom songs, then yeah, I'd say this could be even better than Ironbound.
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