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BlashyrkhMR101
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:10 pm 
 

Hey hey, so just for fun I started doing some black metal guitar playing and decided to record a quick track and I was wondering if anyone could give me their opinion on my guitar tone, or ways to improve it? I play a BC Rich Revenge, standard tuning, with a Digitech "Death Metal Pedal" feeding straight into an M-Audio Fast Track Pro.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/495f9e

Oh and please disregard the track/artist names, they were just made up on the spot.

Cheers!

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MrDisgrace
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:22 pm 
 

I like it very much! That's exactly the kind of tone I was going for when I was going to record my EP, but my sucky effects processor (Behringer X V-AMP) couldn't do anything like it.

Do you plan to pan the guitar tracks L/R or are you going to leave everything "in the middle" (sorry, don't know the appropriate term)? It'd sound better if you panned the rhythm tracks L/R and left the melodies "in the middle".
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BlashyrkhMR101
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:27 pm 
 

MrDisgrace wrote:
I like it very much! That's exactly the kind of tone I was going for when I was going to record my EP, but my sucky effects processor (Behringer X V-AMP) couldn't do anything like it.

Do you plan to pan the guitar tracks L/R or are you going to leave everything "in the middle" (sorry, don't know the appropriate term)? It'd sound better if you panned the rhythm tracks L/R and left the melodies "in the middle".


Thanks very much, I know what you mean by in the middle, I don't know the right term either, but I'm not sure what you mean by panning the rhythm L/R? Wouldn't that also make it be "in the middle"? Oh, I'd also be happy to play guitar tracks for your band since you like the tone so much.

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MrDisgrace
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:53 pm 
 

If you record just one rhythm track, clone it and pan it L/R it's going to sound like just one rhythm track is being played, but if you record two rhythm tracks playing the same thing and pan each one L/R accordingly, it's going to sound more...dynamic? Sorry, I don't know how to explain it well, I'm an amateur when it comes to audio engineering, but that's how bands record their guitar tracks for the most part.

As for playing guitar in my project, it'd be great! But I pretty much scrapped it after having some problems with my guitar and one of my bandmates changing my guitar amp's settings, completely ruining the tone I had created. I don't have the drum tracks anymore and don't feel like redoing them. But thanks for showing interest! If you're interested, you can hear my BM songs on my soundcloud account, they're at the very bottom of the page.
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BlashyrkhMR101
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:27 pm 
 

Oh okay I see what you mean. Well, see I would but it never occurred to me to keep the original tracks haha. And yeah I'll check out your stuff for sure.

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Apteronotus
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:30 pm 
 

MrDisgrace wrote:
If you record just one rhythm track, clone it and pan it L/R it's going to sound like just one rhythm track is being played, but if you record two rhythm tracks playing the same thing and pan each one L/R accordingly, it's going to sound more...dynamic? Sorry, I don't know how to explain it well, I'm an amateur when it comes to audio engineering, but that's how bands record their guitar tracks for the most part.


I forget the exact physics and how it all works but I will try explaining what I remember. When you clone a track it will result only in the same exact sound but louder because the sound waves are literally being added onto one another. This effect happens to some extent with normal natural instrument doubling as well but digital cloning doesn't sound that same because even a virtuoso (or a pair performing in concert) isn't going to create a mathematically perfect reproduction of the sound waves. Panning and recording two tracks makes a more natural sound, some people try to imitate this by having a cloned track delayed slightly for that more "dynamic" sound you speak of where the sound waves do not perfectly reinforce one another. If you picture a wave and draw another wave different from nearly identical it would give you a good visualization of that richer more dynamic sound you get. Contrast this with simple digital doubling which you can represent visually by drawing a wave and then making its peaks and troughs twice as high and low, its just the same thing but louder.
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BlashyrkhMR101
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:34 pm 
 

See, I didn't clone the rhythm guitar's to have one in the L pan and one in the R pan, I just simply recorded the track in mono and saved as stereo. So it wasn't quite overlapping the waves.

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