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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:19 pm 
 

Has this always been a feature on artist pages that I've never noticed, or is this a newer feature?
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oogboog
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:21 pm 
 

Most likely. I just found out today from Mark Reale's page.
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but not sub-genes of death metal ( like grindcore and black metal).

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:31 pm 
 

It was just implemented yesterday.
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grinder12345 wrote:
And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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John_Sunlight
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:03 pm 
 

How long before someone starts putting "still alive" in living musicians' pages for points?
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MalignantThrone
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:08 pm 
 

John_Sunlight wrote:
How long before someone starts putting "still alive" in living musicians' pages for points?

Only mods can access the field, so I doubt that'll happen.
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which ones are mainstream cuz i will stop listening to them

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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:20 pm 
 

MalignantThrone wrote:
Only mods can access the field


Not the case. I've entered a number of causes of death today for obscure artists I've processed reports for. Not sure if it's supposed to be open for everyone, or if that's a slip-up on somebody's part.
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MalignantThrone
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:15 pm 
 

Huh, you're right, I just updated one myself. But Evenfiel said here:
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A "cause of death" field was added. It can only be modified by mods.

Oh, well.
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HellBlazer
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:42 pm 
 

Well actually, only mods can enter the date of death, but afterwards anyone can enter the cause if the date is set. Just a precaution so that someone doesn't go around declaring random artists to be dead.

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MalignantThrone
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:01 pm 
 

HellBlazer wrote:
Well actually, only mods can enter the date of death, but afterwards anyone can enter the cause if the date is set. Just a precaution so that someone doesn't go around declaring random artists to be dead.

I'm pretty sure trusted users can add R.I.P. dates too - I've added quite a few while adding legacy lineups.
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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:56 pm 
 

Yeah, I think trusted users can edit it too, but otherwise, what HB said.
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Markeri, in 2013 wrote:
you can debate the actual date that metal began, but a fairly agreed upon date is 1969. Metal is almost 25 years old
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Why Iron maiden is there? It's very far to be metal than a lot of some metal band.

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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:29 am 
 

In relation to the message on the front page: when entering causes of death, would using "suicide by hanging" or "murder by shooting" be acceptable? It just seems a little redundant for some of the lesser known artists to put "Murdered" in the C.O.D. field, and then "Shot to death" in the trivia section.
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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:00 am 
 

Yes, that's fine.
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Markeri, in 2013 wrote:
you can debate the actual date that metal began, but a fairly agreed upon date is 1969. Metal is almost 25 years old
Extreme_violence wrote:
Why Iron maiden is there? It's very far to be metal than a lot of some metal band.

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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:53 am 
 

For mods and trusted users, you can use this list to properly tag artists as deceased;
http://www.metal-archives.com/todo/dead

Have fun.
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Markeri, in 2013 wrote:
you can debate the actual date that metal began, but a fairly agreed upon date is 1969. Metal is almost 25 years old
Extreme_violence wrote:
Why Iron maiden is there? It's very far to be metal than a lot of some metal band.

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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:10 am 
 

Morrigan wrote:
For mods and trusted users, you can use this list to properly tag artists as deceased;
http://www.metal-archives.com/todo/dead

Done. Are there any artists with "RIP" as well?

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:19 am 
 

Nope, Morri already cleared them all... there were about 50.
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J_Ason wrote:
grinder12345 wrote:
And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:52 am 
 

Actually no, I cleared those that had "R.I.P." in the trivia field (as opposed to biography). Searching for "RIP" without the dots is a pain in the ass because that word can appear as part of many other words.
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Markeri, in 2013 wrote:
you can debate the actual date that metal began, but a fairly agreed upon date is 1969. Metal is almost 25 years old
Extreme_violence wrote:
Why Iron maiden is there? It's very far to be metal than a lot of some metal band.

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:17 am 
 

Oh yeah, sorry... forgot. :lol:

Maybe just perform a case sensitive match?
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J_Ason wrote:
grinder12345 wrote:
And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:12 pm 
 

Yeah, I didn't know you could do that with a LIKE match so I was gonna check about regex, then I learned about a LIKE BINARY that I didn't even know existed... >_>

Some more on that list:
http://www.metal-archives.com/todo/dead

"RIP" appears for other reasons sometimes, but we can just ignore those artists and focus on those who are clearly shown as deceased.

Edit: hmm, I noticed a few people writing "RIP" in the lineup field for the instrument just so that the RIP tag shows up on the band line-up. That's... bad. I changed one such cases, but I'll be checking if there aren't any more of those... Edit 2: there's over 100. :ugh: Another list to clean...
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Markeri, in 2013 wrote:
you can debate the actual date that metal began, but a fairly agreed upon date is 1969. Metal is almost 25 years old
Extreme_violence wrote:
Why Iron maiden is there? It's very far to be metal than a lot of some metal band.

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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:59 pm 
 

I've added a second tab regarding the "RIP" in line-up fields. Sadly it's slow to load, but once it's all cleaned up it shouldn't be an issue later.

On that second tab, if there's an edit icon next to the artist's name, it means the artist isn't tagged as deceased, so s/he should be edited. The edit icon at the end of the line is there to clean up the lineup field and strip out the "RIP" text from there. It's very important to edit the artist page FIRST, because if you clean-up the lineup and don't tag the artist, then the artist won't show up on any list.

Edit (lots of those today): I've also adjusted the first tab list, because I noticed that sometimes people entered not "R.I.P." or "RIP", but they entered, "R.I.P" -- yeah, no trailing period. Argh.
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Markeri, in 2013 wrote:
you can debate the actual date that metal began, but a fairly agreed upon date is 1969. Metal is almost 25 years old
Extreme_violence wrote:
Why Iron maiden is there? It's very far to be metal than a lot of some metal band.

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MalignantThrone
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:15 pm 
 

I cleared out the first list - all that's left are "R.I.P." notes for disbanded bands and words like "ripping".

EDIT: Second list clear.
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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:17 pm 
 

Good job, thanks.
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Markeri, in 2013 wrote:
you can debate the actual date that metal began, but a fairly agreed upon date is 1969. Metal is almost 25 years old
Extreme_violence wrote:
Why Iron maiden is there? It's very far to be metal than a lot of some metal band.

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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:20 pm 
 

Ok. Last thing. Should we be striving for any sort of uniform look to this? Should all cases of murder or suicide follow the same "Murder by <insert manner of death here>" (i.e. "Murder by stabbing", "Suicide by gunshot"?) Would it look better to list them as "Murder (<manner>)" or "Suicide (<manner>)" (i.e. Murder (stabbed), Suicide (hanging), which personally gets my vote) to be more uniform? And what about diseases? Do we do "Heart attack" or "Lou Gehrig's Disease", or should we be scientific and use "Cardiac arrest" and "Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis"?
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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:36 pm 
 

MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
Do we do "Heart attack" or "Lou Gehrig's Disease"

That's much better.

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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:45 pm 
 

The "vulgar" (non-scientific) terms are fine. If the cause of suicide/murder is known, it's okay to write "Suicide by hanging" or something, but I don't really have any opinion on one way or another.
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Markeri, in 2013 wrote:
you can debate the actual date that metal began, but a fairly agreed upon date is 1969. Metal is almost 25 years old
Extreme_violence wrote:
Why Iron maiden is there? It's very far to be metal than a lot of some metal band.

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