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MalignantThrone
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:26 am 
 

MalignantThrone wrote:
I think you guys need to partially remove your chokehold on compilation albums - it has a few flaws that are very glaringly annoying.

For example:
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Ea ... ion/285507
This album still has two miscellaneous roles (liner notes and CD layout) that can't be added to the Miscellaneous staff due to restrictions on the roles that can be given to people on compilation albums.

Here's another thing - http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Mo ... xes/322821
On the new Morbid Angel remix album, the artists doing the remixes can't be credited - they can't be added as guest/session staff (which is what I do with remix people whenever I see them), and they can't be added to miscellaneous staff because of the restrictions on certain roles.

Wouldn't it just make more sense to free up the guest/session and miscellaneous fields, and put a big bold warning at the top of the album lineup editor telling people not to add the band's studio performing artists to either of those fields?

What's the status on this? Has it been requested?
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MalignantThrone
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:01 pm 
 

I just noticed something odd. Okay, so on an album page, above the art, there's usually a link back to the main band page, followed by a "less than" inequality sign:

For example:
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Iconic Vivisect > Breeding Atrocity


However, on albums with Arabic text, the inequality sign points in the other direction:
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الأحلام < قفص


Is that intentional?
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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:05 pm 
 

you read it from another direction. From right to left.
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MalignantThrone
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:19 pm 
 

Oh, okay. :durr: Sorry for being an idiot.
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SwarteHeap
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:47 pm 
 

MalignantThrone wrote:
I just noticed something odd. Okay, so on an album page, above the art, there's usually a link back to the main band page, followed by a "less than" inequality sign


Greater than, not less than. Remember, the alligator always eats the bigger one.

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MalignantThrone
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:25 pm 
 

:brick: Wow, I'm on a roll for looking like a dumbass today. :oh shit:
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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:11 pm 
 

MalignantThrone wrote:
What's the status on this? Has it been requested?

Yes.

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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:36 am 
 

Using the colors to seperate the moderators is indeed a great feature. In fact, I don't know if it's only me who got a little confused or this is something that needs to be modified. For me Forum moderators should includes the moderators that are only modded on the forums but as I can see failsafeman, MMisantropo and OneRodeToAsaBay are also modded on the main site. Therefore, they should belong to Global moderators (I assume that this groupe includes the moderators that are simultaneously modded on the forums and the main site).

Esoteric looks like a Site moderator although he is not a moderator on the main site but apparently only on the forums. Madsorceror is also listed under the Site moderators group.
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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:35 am 
 

Site updates:
-The list of upcoming albums now starts with the albums released on the current day.
-A "cause of death" field was added. It can only be modified by mods. Normal users can't edit a cause of death unless a date of death has already been entered by a mod pr trusted user.
-New roles for compilations, "Liner notes", "CD layout", "Remix".
-A few minor bugs were fixed.

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HellBlazer
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:13 pm 
 

GraveWish wrote:
Using the colors to seperate the moderators is indeed a great feature. In fact, I don't know if it's only me who got a little confused or this is something that needs to be modified. For me Forum moderators should includes the moderators that are only modded on the forums but as I can see failsafeman, MMisantropo and OneRodeToAsaBay are also modded on the main site. Therefore, they should belong to Global moderators (I assume that this groupe includes the moderators that are simultaneously modded on the forums and the main site).

Esoteric looks like a Site moderator although he is not a moderator on the main site but apparently only on the forums. Madsorceror is also listed under the Site moderators group.


Not exactly, forum moderators are those who have some administrative power on the forums. They can also be site moderators (as is the case with all current forum mods, I think), but the priority is in showing their forum status since, well, this is the forum. Conversely, those in the "site moderators" group on the forum do not have any special rights on forum management, but their rank is displayed mainly so that people in S&C know they speak with some authority. The confusingly named "global moderators" rank just means they have additional forum privileges above those of forum moderators. Likewise, "administrators" have access to all forum options. Admittedly, the average user probably doesn't need to make the difference between some of those so we might reduce the number of different rank colors displayed.

Also, Esoteric is a special case. He still has his mod rank on the forum even though he retired long ago, in recognition of his help as main forum admin in the site's early days.

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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:19 am 
 

-New status for labels: On hold

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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:01 pm 
 

-Lists now scroll-up automatically.

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MalignantThrone
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:04 pm 
 

Can you guys limit the amount of vertical pixels a thumbnail on a band's page can have before it's sized down? I know I'm probably not making much sense, but here, look at these:

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Pit ... ast/130084
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Thy ... 3540316559
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Lyk ... flame/2884

On these bands' pages, the band photo (in the case of the former two) or the band logo (in Lykathea Aflame's case) has no restraints on width, so it pushes the end of the page really far down. I assumed you've done something to curb the X-axis of a thumbnail already since band logos don't fly off the right edge of the page... could you do something like that for the Y-axis?
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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:46 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/La ... _For/76686

Was this actually ever released as a real single? Because I can't find a single scrap of information outside MA that says it was.
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And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:57 pm 
 

^ Wrong thread...?
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you can debate the actual date that metal began, but a fairly agreed upon date is 1969. Metal is almost 25 years old
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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:04 pm 
 

Wasn't sure where to post it, actually...
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And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:23 pm 
 

Come on, this thread is about v2 stuff, not debate about the existence of a single. :ugh:
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you can debate the actual date that metal began, but a fairly agreed upon date is 1969. Metal is almost 25 years old
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Why Iron maiden is there? It's very far to be metal than a lot of some metal band.

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:35 pm 
 

Yeah true, but I've just seen people bring up a lot of random crap in this thread, so I figure if any thread was appropriate to dump the question on, it'd be here. :D
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And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:43 pm 
 

Well as a mod you should know better. :P
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you can debate the actual date that metal began, but a fairly agreed upon date is 1969. Metal is almost 25 years old
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Why Iron maiden is there? It's very far to be metal than a lot of some metal band.

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:00 pm 
 

I'll be more careful next time. ;)
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grinder12345 wrote:
And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:04 pm 
 

Could adding the albums line-ups be restricted to the users with the metal demon rank? This is really extremely important. In fact this is one of the best ways, if not the best way, for users to point-whore and add completely wrong and misleading information. Beside if a normal user have the correct information he can always send a report showing evidence that what he is claiming is true at this point someone with the proper rank could modify that. It's really confusing and misleading especially with the (more-or-less) underground bands (for example Deathspell Omega, Ayat...). In fact for such bands most of the times there is no clear information about the line-ups of the albums but probably rumors. To illustrate what I am trying to say with examples please check this report: http://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/353243/ and let me quote my post from another thread:

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Could someone ask http://www.metal-archives.com/users/Verd how did he figure out the line-ups on albums/demos by this http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ayat/20569 underground band. As far as I know some of those demos was not even released anytime over the Internet and a really handful of local fans/band members have them, if they even got released/recorded. Also this user http://www.metal-archives.com/users/fleurs%20du%20mal should probably be banned since she initially added completely freestyle line-ups to some of those demos (for example she added Dr. Cripples as the drummer on some demos although Dr. Cripples is more probably the name of the drum machine used only on their last album) and apparently the user Verd intended to (correct?) the mess she did by adding another (freestyle?) line-ups.


You can also check the point-whores thread and you will notice that most of the posts there are to report users adding freestyle line-ups to albums.
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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:49 pm 
 

GraveWish wrote:
Could adding the albums line-ups be restricted to the users with the metal demon rank?

I don`t think so. What we could do is to lock the album lineup for some problematic bands.

Enhancement:
-Adv. search now has the option to select multiple countries and statuses.

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:39 pm 
 

I think a better course of action might be to prohibit "normal" (non-veteran) users from editing an album line-up that isn't empty. It might help curb the rate of guesswork line-ups, and normal users can always file a report to finish incomplete line-ups if need be.
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grinder12345 wrote:
And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:31 am 
 

So maybe this has been brought up before, but when browsing artists by letter, there are a large number of bands that can't be looked for. As it is right now, the tabs at the top of the page cover A-Z and 0-9. But, bands whose names begin with symbols (!T.O.O.H.!, $uicide $olution, '. . . [l]ight am I' . . ., (Psychoparalysis), +3 Broadsword, etc.) do not have their own tab, but also do not appear in lettered tabs either (i.e. (Psychoparalysis) does not appear under the "P" tab). The exception to this rule seems to be if the band's name starts with "..." (i.e. ...Aaaarrghh... will appear in the "A" tab). Now granted, there are only around 20 of these bands in the Archive, but it seems like they could plausibly be lumped into the 0-9 tab and make it the numbers and symbols tab.

And more importantly, with V.2's ability to process encodings and charcters from around the world, the large number of bands whose names are now start with Greek, Cyrillic, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Thai and Arabic characters (among others languages) can not be found in the Browse by Letter section at all. With these groups, I cannot think of an easy way to list them, but maybe someone reading this has thoughts?
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:47 am 
 

Zorg85 wrote:
The artist index is again bugging, you can restart it :ugh:
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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:57 am 
 

Band: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/%D9 ... 9%85/99139

Look at this: http://i40.tinypic.com/2hf6olf.jpg the demo title does not appear correctly although once you click on the demo you have the correct name.

Same problem with the first demo of this band: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/%D9 ... 3540287914
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Fulgurius
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:00 am 
 

GraveWish wrote:
Band: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/%D9 ... 9%85/99139

Look at this: http://i40.tinypic.com/2hf6olf.jpg the demo title does not appear correctly although once you click on the demo you have the correct name.

Same problem with the first demo of this band: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/%D9 ... 3540287914

For me both appear correctly. Maybe something with your browser?

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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:05 am 
 

Well I don't know I've tried different browsers and tried this on 3 different PCs, the thing is that only the demo titles are wrong all the rest are correct.
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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:25 am 
 

What about other Arabic bands?
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Al ... %B1/229462
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/%D8 ... 3540328342

same problem?
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Azmodes
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EDIT: Durrrrr.
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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:06 am 
 

For me the problem is only with the demos, so the first band is good but the second is not (only the demo name) and again once you click on the demo it displays the correct caracters.

EDIT: I have all demos in all pages in Italic, isn't that to be supposed normal?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:28 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Zorg85 wrote:
The artist index is again bugging, you can restart it :ugh:


Again :grumble:

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:35 pm 
 

GraveWish wrote:
For me the problem is only with the demos, so the first band is good but the second is not (only the demo name) and again once you click on the demo it displays the correct caracters.

EDIT: I have all demos in all pages in Italic, isn't that to be supposed normal?

God almighty, I'm an idiot. Yes, of course. I concentrated so much on the Arabic script and what set the entries apart that I overlooked they were all demos and those are always displayed that way. So, in conclusion, they're displayed correctly for me, too. :)
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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:36 pm 
 

Haat888 wrote:
Again :grumble:

Fixed.

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The_Black_Priest
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:25 pm 
 

Hey guys posting here in this forum after months. :)

Wanted to know something. Can we deleted albums if added twice by mistake??

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:38 pm 
 

No. Just file a report to have it removed. :-)

Optionally, you could post in this thread instead and it'll tend to fetch quicker attention from a moderator (which is generally a better alternative to filing one more report in a neverending queue of reports).

If you've accidentally added an album twice in a band draft, I'm afraid there's no means of deleting it until the band's been approved... at which point, you'll need to repeat the steps mentioned above. I do believe it's a bug, although it might've been fixed since I last encountered it.
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And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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Zorg85
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:29 pm 
 

Evenfiel wrote:
Haat888 wrote:
Again :grumble:

Fixed.



Seems to be down again

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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:10 pm 
 

Fixed.

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:33 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Sc ... ion/177147
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/M% ... _Oz/138374

is this allowed? Adding the tracklist in the album notes? Or shall these be added as compilations with normal track lists? The latter has the stuff in the add notes as well ... does someone know more about this release?
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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:36 pm 
 

Assuming that's the tracklist for the actual albums featured in the set, yes. Otherwise it's probably better to add as a compilation if most or all of the discs have misc. tracks.
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you can debate the actual date that metal began, but a fairly agreed upon date is 1969. Metal is almost 25 years old
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