Why is Festerfuck blacklisted? They're more death than grind... http://youtu.be/oMx5S7476IA

According to viewtopic.php?f=3&t=39064&p=1465329&hilit=festerfuck#p1465329, they got rejected for not having a physical release.

Their Facebook page mentions a CD and there's also this, so I took them off the blacklist. You can submit them if you want, but please include the Bigcartel link in your submission.

a friend of mine tried to submit my USBM band Vanaheim on your website about a week or so ago and was told that my band was "not metal enough" or something to that effect. My music is on the same level as bands like Xasthur and Leviathan. I see both of these bands on this website.
I would like an explanation as to what makes my music "not metal enough"

I was just wondering if before I begin to add them, will the Trash Brats from Detroit be rejected. If you want some evidence, I will be more than happy to supply you with it. Thanks, Kevin.

Hello, I got an email from a guy who wants to add his band to MA. Apparently the band was previously rejected for not having a physical release. The guy wants to send me a CD. What I am sure of is that the CD is in fact a D.I.Y. CD-R with a cover and a case the guy is probably doing this just to get his band added here as the demo was released online only. The thing is if someone asked for a CD he will burn him a D.I.Y. CD-R with a cover so basically he can pretend that the CD is also released physically. I don't know if you consider this valid because in one hand every single band can do this to get added here and in the other hand there is too many bands that already got accepted based on a D.I.Y. CD-R. This is a bit confusing, do you think should I add the band?

Okay guys, Abosranie Bogom's metallic full-length is released today:
http://alarmarex.blogspot.com/2011/11/a ... t-now.html

Samples:
• [*mp3s deleted*]

As you can see: structured, metallic deathgrind.

Can they be taken off the blacklist, now?

Yep.

a friend of mine tried to submit my USBM band Vanaheim on your website about a week or so ago and was told that my band was "not metal enough" or something to that effect. My music is on the same level as bands like Xasthur and Leviathan. I see both of these bands on this website.
I would like an explanation as to what makes my music "not metal enough"
here's a video I made a while back with the first track from my demo Oculttis Obscurris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCCE2Wz8N7g
here's the reverbnation page
http://www.reverbnation.com/vanaheim

Your music is dark ambient; it doesn't share musical characteristics (riffs, instrumentation, etc.) that you would expect from metal (in your case, black metal). One thing to keep in mind; there are plenty of bands in the encyclopedia that have albums that are similar to your own, in that they are dark ambient and non-metal. Those bands, however, were not accepted based upon those albums; so long as they had at least one album that was predominantly metal they were accepted. It's one reason why comparisons don't work as a reason for a band being accepted. You are picking out the similarities between your band and Xasthur and Leviathan, based upon Xasthur's and Leviathan's non-metal work. Sorry, man.


We don't do preemptive judgments of bands. The burden of proof for a band's metalness and correctness in following our guidelines lies with you.


There's plenty of precedence in accepting DIY CD-R releases. The quality of the medium being released can be a red flag, but that is why other parameters are used to judge a release's permanency. Notably, it's worth finding out whether or not the release is available to more than a handful of people. If you were the only person to receive the CD-R, common sense dictates that that's not much of a "release" at all. If the CD-R release has been distributed to others then it could be considered a physical release.

Why is Aythis black listed? It is a side project (formed 2007; while Carline Van Roos was active in a metal band already) and on a label with world-wide distribution:
http://www.metal-archives.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85395

Now it's not ;]

I'm so sorry but I can't search all 102 pages one by one, and the search function doesn't help me since the band name has to be at least 4 character but the one I'm looking for is HB. It has been deleted from the archives.

They're, uh, still blacklisted...

removed

Submitted, thanks!

HB?

I think he may mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HB_(band) . I do remember seeing them here in the v1 era, but they seem to be gone.

Is Bleed the Sky (United States) more "-core" than metal? I thought that they were on the site before.

They were, but got deleted for that very reason.

Possibly also blacklisted for being another "Verb the Noun" band.

We actually have a specific automated rejection message for those now.

Hello, I entered Animetal USA to the database but it was rejected because they play "Covers".

I don't agree with that because the make there own version of songs based on Anime theme songs. It's not like the play them note by note.
Also if that would be the reason, why is the original Animetal band in the database? The did the exact same thing.

Please clarify!

Even though they don't play note for note, the rules do say that cover bands (or tribute bands) are not allowed on the site; they must have original material.

Then why is the Japanese version of Animetal allowed????????

They fall under the side-project guideline AND have done their own original material alongside their (mostly) cover material.

I was just wondering why exactly TRASH TALK's Eyes and Nines was rejected on this site yet Ulver's Perdition City is posted here. Not that I don't like Ulver or they weren't ever Norweginan Black Metal but I wouldn't really consider that particular album heavy. Some feedback on this would be cool. Thanks

So what's the consensus on the French band Mulk? They were blacklisted for some reason, but they sound pretty much like a heavier Berzerker:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnFerqHKs6c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFs8eGcbgzA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W91sO4-OBQ

And physical copies are available here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MULK-Putrilogie ... 1699wt_829

Can they be taken off the blacklist now?

Well he claims that they had 100 copies done. In the other hand they will rip a copy for anyone who asks about it so I dunno if I should submit the band or not. What do you say?

I still thing that Animetal USA should be treated the same way as Animetal since they are doing the exact same thing.

I don't really see a difference between them.

Their earlier albums were metal, mate. If the only album Ulver had in their discography was Perdition City, you can bet they'd be on the blacklist.

The rules state that a band must have at least *one* predominantly metal release; after that, they can take whatever musical direction they like.

Well, they are not doing the exact same thing. Animetal USA don't have original material (up until now). And they most likely don't fall under the side-project rule either. They only have one album with what is stated on their homepage as covers of anime songs. That's the info your submission gave me. I don't know the extent to which they re-interpreted their versions as I don't know the anime songs they're covering. Keep in mind that things like Powerglove are also not allowed here, although they don't exactly cover themes "note for note". Also, as some song titles of Animetal USA's album show up in the Japanese original's discography, I'm wondering if they aren't sort of a tribute band as well (apart from the name ). Although this could just be inevitable overlap of the identical source material.

I haven't checked/compared the songs. It is your job to properly show us that the band is acceptable under our guidelines.

Sounds acceptable in that case. Some further proof for those 100 copies other than his word couldn't hurt, though.


As I said before, I wouldn't mind including them, but I feel that another mod's opinion is required. Maybe this is too far into the grind spectrum.

Yea I will try to get some more information before submitting it.

I would also like to know if this band http://odra.bandcamp.com/ is blacklisted because it's not metal enough or for what other reason?

Sounds metal enough. I assume you have proof of PR?

Yes I have a proof. Remove it from the blacklist please.

Done.

I am a bit confused about the submission of the following band: http://huldratheband.bandcamp.com/album ... he-void-ep for me they sound a typical mix between Isis and Cult of Luna. Since the rule regarding those bands is not quite clear, for example I don't have any idea based on what Isis or Cult of Luna or any post-metal band got accepted/rejected I would like to know if you consider this band metal enough.

Single Albums are not rejected, only Bands are. I don't know the band you mentioned, but if they don't have at least one METAL album, they will be rejected. Ulver had a handful of metal releases. The later (or earlier) releases of such a band are still added to the database, no matter wether they are metal or not. (for the sake of completion)

I just saw the band Gaza from Salt Lake City last night and it was one of the most intense performances I've witnessed in recent memory. I don't understand why this band is blacklisted. Their music is technical, progressive and certainly full of hardcore elements but also brimming with elements of "metal." They are on Metal Blade records as well...