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yentass
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 4:07 pm 
 

Alhadis wrote:
I recalled it incorrectly then... I only remember hearing "ё" wasn't used in all Cyrillic alphabets...

Blugh, it'd help to actually learn Cyrillic someday. :durr:

Noted this as well. If it helps, the mojibake equivalent of "ё" is "¸" (I don't know what's the equivalent for the capital "ё", but it's never used as the first letter, apart from swearwords).
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Bumgat2
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 4:16 pm 
 

Corimngul wrote:
I sent him an e-mail when I saw that he had changed things back to English. It's an unfortunate misunderstanding on his part I guess.

EDIT: Related reports dealt with. I hope kluseba comes around.


Excellent summary. Perhaps you can post it in here too if you wish.

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Fulgurius
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 4:33 pm 
 

yentass wrote:
it's never used as the first letter, apart from swearwords

What? Since when ёж or ёлка became swearwords?

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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 7:07 pm 
 

Bumgat2 wrote:
Maybe a new category can be added in reports, as mojibakes or encoding problems? So it's easier to sort reports and not look through four hundred of them.

There's no real need for that.

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yentass
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 11:04 am 
 

Fulgurius wrote:
yentass wrote:
it's never used as the first letter, apart from swearwords

What? Since when ёж or ёлка became swearwords?

Since now!

I was thinking more of "used in metal bandnames/album titles/song names" but I'd admit I totally forgot these, thanks for pointing out.
*immediately looks for Ёлочный Ёж on the MA*
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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:27 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Obl ... Kraj/54361

Here's a band richly in need of corrections. :D

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Noted this as well. If it helps, the mojibake equivalent of "ё" is "¸"


Don't worry, I've dug up the actual character maps for the character sets. :D Should be able to nut out a more reliable encoder (as opposed to the current map I'm using, which was just based on somebody else's list of Mojibake corrections. :lol: )
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And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 6:08 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/S. ... lone/14722

Plenty of mojibake here to fix, if anybody wants to have a crack at it. :)

Japanese-flavoured 'bake, BTW.
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And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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OneRodeToAsaBay
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:45 am 
 

Most of S.O.B.'s lyrics are mucked up, same goes for a lot of japanese bands. I'll see what I can do about cleaning it up over the next few days.

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:31 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bas ... iscography
can someone fix the releases?
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sofeshue
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:34 am 
 

oneyoudontknow wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bastarth/3540298630#band_tab_discography
can someone fix the releases?


Fixed.

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:17 pm 
 

sofeshue wrote:
oneyoudontknow wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bastarth/3540298630#band_tab_discography
can someone fix the releases?


Fixed.

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:08 am 
 

long-ass url:

Youch. :ugh:

Good luck with that one, guys. Image

[Edit: Sorry about the long URL. :ugh: It's hard to remember what stretches screens when I'm using a 1920-resolution. :( ]
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And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!


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SwarteHeap
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:47 pm 
 

This is the closest I could get. Not sure if it actually means anything.

ร ยธลพร ยธยฃร ยธยฐร ยนโ‚ฌร ยธห†ร ยนโ€ฐร ยธยฒร ยธล ร ยนห†ร ยธยงร ยธยขร ยธโ€ร ยนโ€ฐร ยธยงร ยธยข

The user dust666 who contributed that stuff appears still to be active, maybe you could contact him somehow.

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:38 pm 
 

one track is here:
http://sssong555.blogspot.com/2010/03/t ... -band.html
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sofeshue
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:35 pm 
 

Alhadis wrote:


Fixed. Found the tracklist for the full-length in a cached page:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... google.com
Found the tracklist for the single here:
http://topicstock.pantip.com/chalermkru ... 68602.html
Used online translation to get the general idea of what it says.

I remember there was a site called Siamese metal, focusing on Thai metal scenes and doing review of metal music worldwide. Sadly though, it was already closed. The internet archive wayback machine does not have the pages for Thai bands from this site...

I don't understand Thai at all. Does anyone know of a Thai veteran user?

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:16 am 
 

Quote:
I don't understand Thai at all. Does anyone know of a Thai veteran user?

Or preferably any Thai user.
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And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:19 am 
 

There are more:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Dezember/83448
(see the add notes :scratch: )
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Growing_Pain/126285
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Blue_Planet/118544
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Karn_Kluay/125828
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Solid_Core/117194
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Wiphalas/118562
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/The ... 3540286382

Taken from a quick search for albums from Thailand.
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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:35 am 
 

Just out of interest, anybody ever tried running an unsuccessful Thai mojibake repair through Google Translate? :D

Lol wrote:
Hong Bluetooth watches, vests? Z 'Z​​? Z? Z? Yong. Z? Feng Hong Feng ° F, North Hall of the Hong Kong? Z ± Z 'Hall of North Hollywood Video, North Hall North Hall was taken f ... Hot ... Hot Hot "was January's North Hall. And watches and watches and watches, vests ... vests 'watches in Hong match - a match in Hong files? Hong match? He watches ... He ... watches, vests, and watches the issue of the Horse ... Horse ".... .... Z? Hong match? he ... watches, vests, and watches the issue of the Hong Kong

Shit's hilarious.


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Okay, I've repaired the titles of คลั่ง ("Rave"), but I think the original MA tracklist was wrong... :facepalm: And the copy of the album I downloaded has differing track durations, so... I've removed 'em from the MA tracklist until somebody can find an unambiguous, official tracklist.

The track data I've added there was taken from the band's official site (which mentions nothing of a re-release whatsoever)

BTW, I've left the "lyrics" in there because they need cleaning up too... aaaand so far, Google hasn't turned up anything.

4. เลิกซะ wrote:
THE POLLUTION DEPEND ON YOU THE POLLUTION DEPEND ON YOU

No results found for "THE POLLUTION DEPEND ON YOU". Results for THE POLLUTION DEPEND ON YOU (without quotes):

Somebody might need to contact the guy who originally added the album and ask for lyrics, because it might've been an original transcription. :(
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grinder12345 wrote:
And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!


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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:27 am 
 

Okay, gotta scoot, guys. But before I go, I found this for Blue Planet's album:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7WL8YT7JOT0/T ... /Front.jpg

It's got the track titles written on it, but I don't know two shits worth of Thai... aaaand there's too many letters on this keyboard that look the same. :(

Good luck! :D
:oh shit:
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And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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legacy4
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:48 am 
 

Original Cyrillic names for Russian bands:
Now in MA database Russian and post-Soviet bands names presented as English translations or transcriptions (and sometimes with grammar mistakes), but also exist exceptions such as "Алик Грановский", for example. "Алик Грановский" that's absolutely correct name of this project, and other Russian/post-Soviet bands also deserves correct original Cyrillic names. English translations/transcriptions can be inserted as alternate spelling. Those, who own the rights to rename bands, can do this important work, others can do reports (but it's required to enter in report original Cyrillic name).

Your thoughts about it?

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sofeshue
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:08 am 
 

legacy4 wrote:
Original Cyrillic names for Russian bands:

The issue might be tricky. Say, if I want to browse the list of bands from Russia, and I see a lot of names in Cyrillic, I would not be able recognize the bands easily (I do know how to convert Cyrillics to Latins, but many do not) even if the band is famous in its romanized name. If we furthermore give bands Chinese names or Japanese names, most of the western users will be totally lost.

Anyway, I do like the idea. I suggest that we make a tab for romanized names to appear on both the band pages and the band lists (whether a search list or a list of bands from a particular country). So on the band page of Алик Грановский, there should a romanized name tab "Alik Granovsky".

For Chinese bands, I entered their original name both in the "alternate spelling" and the additional notes. So for example, on Zuriaake's page, you can read "The band name in Chinese is 葬尸湖. "

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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:51 am 
 

As far as I'm concerned, bands should always have their original name as their name, and then a romanized / transliterated version in both the additional notes and alternate spelling.

Just post here whenever you come across a band whose name needs to be changed.

sofeshue: Unless the band has released an English version of the album, translations of the album's name and song should only be shown in the additional notes.

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sofeshue
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:36 pm 
 

Evenfiel wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, bands should always have their original name as their name, and then a romanized / transliterated version in both the additional notes and alternate spelling.


What if a band has two official names in different languages? Say, 施教日 is also officially known as Ritual Day. In this case, should we have "施教日" or "Ritual Day" or "施教日 (Ritual Day)"?

Evenfiel wrote:
sofeshue: Unless the band has released an English version of the album, translations of the album's name and song should only be shown in the additional notes.


OK. But there are lots of albums / tracks whose titles have "official" English translations that also appear on the cover / back cover, although the songs are sung in the native language. Should these translations stay in the tracklist?

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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:34 am 
 

sofeshue wrote:
What if a band has two official names in different languages? Say, 施教日 is also officially known as Ritual Day. In this case, should we have "施教日" or "Ritual Day" or "施教日 (Ritual Day)"?

Since this is a English website, we can use the English name as their name; the one in Chinese can be added to the alternate spelling field and the while thing should be explained in the additional notes.

sofeshue wrote:
OK. But there are lots of albums / tracks whose titles have "official" English translations that also appear on the cover / back cover, although the songs are sung in the native language. Should these translations stay in the tracklist?

In this case you can leave the translations in the tracklist.

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:16 pm 
 

For those correcting wrongly accented names for Czech artists, MusicMight.com (or "RockDetector.com", or whatever other bloody domain names they use) has a pretty decent database. :)

http://www.musicmight.com/artist/czech+ ... gue/orient

I'm going through and correcting artist names using this list, here... There's also links to other bands (some MA, some not) that the previous line-ups didn't include. :)
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grinder12345 wrote:
And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:55 am 
 

Just stumbled across a nifty little tool that might help with repairing Mojibake(s). :)

http://illegalargumentexception.blogspot.com/2009/09/java-character-inspector-application.html

And for anybody wondering, the characters "�" are the mangled remains of "�"... which indicates the original letter was lost in the first place. =)
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grinder12345 wrote:
And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:21 am 
 

Another band for our experts:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/uRAn_0

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:32 am 
 

Bump:

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Beh ... iscography

Not mojibakes, but the album titles show a bunch of transliterations that a crafty Russian should be able to fix. :D

=========================================================

[EDIT: And it'd take an even craftier Russian to fix the broken lyrics on this page, I think... :(
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Fu ... %8C/114560

They seem pretty heavily borked... E.g., my standard methods of fixing broken Cyrillic are useless]
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grinder12345 wrote:
And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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Zaveugan
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:08 am 
 

Alhadis wrote:
Bump:

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Beh ... iscography

Not mojibakes, but the album titles show a bunch of transliterations that a crafty Russian should be able to fix. :D

You can change it to:

Самоубийство Грешников Ада
Парадигма
Линия Жизни (Life Line)
Счастье Для Всех

And I've changed song titles.

Alhadis wrote:
And it'd take an even craftier Russian to fix the broken lyrics on this page, I think... :(
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Fu ... %8C/114560

They seem pretty heavily borked... E.g., my standard methods of fixing broken Cyrillic are useless]

Fixed (According to the website of Luna Aeterna)

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:07 pm 
 

Zaveugan wrote:
And I've changed song titles.

Тханкс!! :D

Alhadis wrote:
Fixed (According to the website of Luna Aeterna)

Oh... yeah, you know, I could've also checked Luna's site too. :facepalm: *smack* Ugh, why didn't I think of that? :lol:
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grinder12345 wrote:
And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:04 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Ar ... rija/60738
titles
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http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Ho ... Sun/283702
Lyrics are all fucked up. I assume they were originally in Cyrillic.
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http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ruined/99317

This page is fucked up. A lot of wrong and suspicious info. I have tried my best to fix it. The famous album "The Haunted House" is just a US re-release of 2002 album "흉가". (http://weareinternetfriends.blogspot.co ... /2002.html) The 2004 album 길닦음 is valid (see http://weareinternetfriends.blogspot.co ... -2004.html). Apart from these albums and the 2011 album, all other releases are highly suspicious because they are never mentioned in a Korean site (even I searched the band name in Korean.) The cover arts of "Junk", "Ðê倾 +" (deformed, failed to recover by all means), "Songs for Darkspirits", "泅×Ø" are do not resemble common cover arts. The last track of "Songs for Darkspirits" is written in German, since the band use Korean mostly and a little english, I assume the german title be nearly impossible.

Due to the obscurity of the band, even the Korean database maniadb.com is not reliable. We do need a Korean speaker to look at this page.

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:50 am 
 

Russian lyrics in need of de-mojibaking:

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Az ... ead/186955
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grinder12345 wrote:
And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:06 am 
 

Fixed.

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oneyoudontknow
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http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/St ... ach/313529
pretty messed up.
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Alhadis
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Not anymore. :) Fixed.
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And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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oneyoudontknow
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here is a strange one:
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Ym ... sar/200753
Runes in the title.
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Fixed. ;)
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And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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oneyoudontknow
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Freaky long URL

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/%D ... %A0/216029

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/%D ... try/214926

basically releases by Вирь
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