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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:56 pm 
 

tiko wrote:
Witcher wrote:
tiko wrote:
Witcher wrote:
The Armenian band Blood Covenant has apparently no physical releases - deleted.

http://bloodcovenant.moy.su/index/0-6

Aramazd too.


Ummm, they have a physical release. The 2003 and 2007 albums and the 2009 single are on CD. Jo, a prosim vrat' BC zpet.

Prove it. There is no ordering info or listing in some established distro anywhere on the web.

How?

Read rule 7. If you do not have the proof, why do you even try ?
First read the guidelines and understand how the site works before you ask about anything here.

Guidelines say:
If the band is not mentioned anywhere on the Web, or if you cannot prove that they have a physical release by using Web links alone, the best ways to prove that they have a physical release is by making a scan or photography of:

* Some of their releases
* Mailorder lists / Flyers
* Magazine / Zine reviews

There are numerous sites that you can easily use to host your pictures and scans. Tinypic is a good one.

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tiko
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:00 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
tiko wrote:
Witcher wrote:
tiko wrote:
Witcher wrote:
The Armenian band Blood Covenant has apparently no physical releases - deleted.

http://bloodcovenant.moy.su/index/0-6

Aramazd too.


Ummm, they have a physical release. The 2003 and 2007 albums and the 2009 single are on CD. Jo, a prosim vrat' BC zpet.

Prove it. There is no ordering info or listing in some established distro anywhere on the web.

How?

Read rule 7. If you do not have the proof, why do you even try ?
First read the guidelines and understand how the site works before you ask about anything here.

Guidelines say:
If the band is not mentioned anywhere on the Web, or if you cannot prove that they have a physical release by using Web links alone, the best ways to prove that they have a physical release is by making a scan or photography of:

* Some of their releases
* Mailorder lists / Flyers
* Magazine / Zine reviews

There are numerous sites that you can easily use to host your pictures and scans. Tinypic is a good one.


So, a photo of those CDs is enough? To pujde, vole.

And another thing, the photos will be today or tomorrow, so will you be able to undo their profile?


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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:04 pm 
 

Yes, a convincing photo. Not that somebody just prints the pictures from band pages and puts them as front covers in their own CD-Rs. We had such experts here before. That just to make things clear.

If the photos will be judged as convincing by me and/or another moderator, the band can be resubmitted.

When a band is deleted, it is gone and has to be resubmitted.

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tiko
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:11 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Yes, a convincing photo. Not that somebody just prints the pictures from band pages and puts them as front covers in their own CD-Rs. We had such experts here before. That just to make things clear.


OK, vole. TBH, I don't have any of their CDs, so I contacted the band leader for some photos. Like I said, today or tomorrow.

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tiko
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:13 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Yes, a convincing photo. Not that somebody just prints the pictures from band pages and puts them as front covers in their own CD-Rs. We had such experts here before. That just to make things clear.

If the photos will be judged as convincing by me and/or another moderator, the band can be resubmitted.

When a band is deleted, it is gone and has to be resubmitted.

So he will have to create the BC page again. Do I understand right?

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:33 pm 
 

Yes.

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tiko
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:34 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Yes.


OK. Thanks. So tomorrow.

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orionmetalhead
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:01 am 
 

Whoever added Amoeba Transfer Station, I just ask... Why?

That is all.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:16 am 
 

orionmetalhead wrote:
Whoever added Amoeba Transfer Station, I just ask... Why?

That is all.

Because the music obviously is metal.
Besides that, kindly learn how to behave in this thread. Such pseudo-dramatic shouts with no content or reasoning go strongly on my nerves.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:59 am 
 

Deleted W.C.H.C. - hardcore punk.

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orionmetalhead
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:16 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
orionmetalhead wrote:
Whoever added Amoeba Transfer Station, I just ask... Why?

That is all.

Because the music obviously is metal.
Besides that, kindly learn how to behave in this thread. Such pseudo-dramatic shouts with no content or reasoning go strongly on my nerves.


It was meant to be semi-humorous of a statement.

That said, they have more in common with Steve Vai then any metal band on this website. As far as I know, MA doesn't usually except solo guitarist like Paul Gilbert, Vai, and Satriani.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:30 am 
 

orionmetalhead wrote:
Witcher wrote:
orionmetalhead wrote:
Whoever added Amoeba Transfer Station, I just ask... Why?

That is all.

Because the music obviously is metal.
Besides that, kindly learn how to behave in this thread. Such pseudo-dramatic shouts with no content or reasoning go strongly on my nerves.


It was meant to be semi-humorous of a statement.

That said, they have more in common with Steve Vai then any metal band on this website. As far as I know, MA doesn't usually except solo guitarist like Paul Gilbert, Vai, and Satriani.

What they say does not matter, they do not sound like Steve Vai at all.

MA does accept solo guitarists when they sound metal enough.

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orionmetalhead
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:38 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
orionmetalhead wrote:
Witcher wrote:
orionmetalhead wrote:
Whoever added Amoeba Transfer Station, I just ask... Why?

That is all.

Because the music obviously is metal.
Besides that, kindly learn how to behave in this thread. Such pseudo-dramatic shouts with no content or reasoning go strongly on my nerves.


It was meant to be semi-humorous of a statement.

That said, they have more in common with Steve Vai then any metal band on this website. As far as I know, MA doesn't usually except solo guitarist like Paul Gilbert, Vai, and Satriani.

What they say does not matter, they do not sound like Steve Vai at all.

MA does accept solo guitarists when they sound metal enough.


Meh, I disagree but I'm not going to get upset that you added your guilty pleasure band to the archives. ^_^
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:45 am 
 

orionmetalhead wrote:
Witcher wrote:
orionmetalhead wrote:
Witcher wrote:
orionmetalhead wrote:
Whoever added Amoeba Transfer Station, I just ask... Why?

That is all.

Because the music obviously is metal.
Besides that, kindly learn how to behave in this thread. Such pseudo-dramatic shouts with no content or reasoning go strongly on my nerves.


It was meant to be semi-humorous of a statement.

That said, they have more in common with Steve Vai then any metal band on this website. As far as I know, MA doesn't usually except solo guitarist like Paul Gilbert, Vai, and Satriani.

What they say does not matter, they do not sound like Steve Vai at all.

MA does accept solo guitarists when they sound metal enough.


Meh, I disagree but I'm not going to get upset that you added your guilty pleasure band to the archives. ^_^


First I have not added them, I have accepted them. Their music may be amateurish, but it is metal enough.


You, on the other hand, made a completely nonsensical claim all on your own, if you want to get to the personal level...

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:06 am 
 

I have deleted Erlösung.

a) Their only physical album consists of covers of Christmas songs
b) In most of their songs there there is no trace of metal guitar riffs.
They can be reconsidered, if their next physical release contains more consistently metal original material.

http://www.myspace.com/erlosungmetall

Also Kastimonia - no official physical releases:
http://www.myspace.com/kastimonia

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EntilZha
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:28 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540305540 - Does this band have any physical releases? I don't see any indication on their MySpace, and none of their albums on M-A even has cover art posted...

EDIT: I see they have just been discussed, though that was regarding their metalness.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:30 am 
 

EntilZha wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540305540 - Does this band have any physical releases? I don't see any indication on their MySpace, and none of their albums on M-A even has cover art posted...

They say on their myspace that you can order their demos for 2 dollars and give ordering adress.

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EntilZha
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:32 am 
 

Oh yeah, sorry. For some reason I didn't notice the part in bold letters.
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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:45 am 
 

Piotr_Bojka wrote:
TheGrimWombat wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540279710

Not metal for me.


For me it's metal.
Do you heard full album?


yes, I have. It has some metal elements, but has a lot more to do with Pink Floyd than anything metal.
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ksevile
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:49 pm 
 

http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540305604

Their album isn't actually released until tomorrow (April 23rd). Does such a small time differential even matter (in this case)?
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Snowgrave
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:53 pm 
 

ksevile wrote:
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540305604

Their album isn't actually released until tomorrow (April 23rd). Does such a small time differential even matter (in this case)?

Keep in mind it's tomorrow pretty much everywhere except the Americas right now.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:55 am 
 

Deleted Dynamon Dark, the demos are for download.


http://www.myspace.com/dynamondark


Also Whispers from a Dead World - electronic stuff, no guitars

Undemoniac - download only demo.


Thusiasterion - no proof of physical release.

Soterion (Bra)- asgain. no proof that their split was ever physically released.

Symphony of Thunder - download demo:
http://www.symphonyofthunder.net/disco/


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Sleazer777
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:08 am 
 

CANNIBAL http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=126240 Should be Deleted.Not Metal.Punk like POISON IDEA.

Samples on eBay


BLUE OX http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=116253 Should be Deleted.HARDCORish Sludge.No Metal Here.

Samples :

http://www.myspace.com/blueoxmn

DKH http://static.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540293542

HARDCORE band.Not Metal.

http://www.myspace.com/dkhtheband

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:04 am 
 

http://unblackmetalscene.bigcartel.com/ ... do-us-part
I see the Glamdring demo is not officially out yet, deleted.

On the other hand, Dying Blaze can be submitted, if somebody wants to do so, since they now have a physical split.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:32 am 
 

I have deleted Lucifer's Friend. They are similar to Uriah Heep in style - not really metal.

Also Shellshock (USA) - really hardcore punk, more than anything else.

Celelalte Cuvinte - they play prog rock/hard rock with some heavier moments on the Armagedhon album, but to call it thrash metal would be a stretch.

Seitar - hatecore, not metal.


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elfstone321
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 4:35 pm 
 

Piotr_Bojka wrote:
Noxiferis nothing released yet.
wednesdead666 - from where you get informations that they released something?!


hey, I just to see this, ok band Noxiferis told me this: give me your address you will receive as fast as possible.
see the image
http://i42.tinypic.com/24o91th.jpg
what do you think??

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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 4:50 pm 
 

S.V.D. http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=54125
Samples: http://www.myspace.com/svdukraine

Not at all metal, about 80% of their music is soft alt-rock, then there are some grunge/nu-metal half breakdown/half groove parts.

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ralfman
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:18 pm 
 

Flameborn...

ralfman wrote:
As far as i can tell , it is the same band :ugh:
Went to their biography and all releases they mentioned are already on the Tûzmadár page...
And i f**ked up by adding one album already on the other page (sorry and please delete).

The myspace page says that;
"Due to increasing demand from abroad, and in an effort to reach international audiences, the group has decided to record the more famous tracks in English, and to take up the overall more pronounceable name “Flameborn”."

So , i guess that that Flameborn demo is a kinda "best off", but in english, of Tûzmadár recordings
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:20 am 
 

http://www.metal-observer.com/articles. ... =1&id=9005
Deleted Flagship - progressive rock.

Hellslaughter - all their music is stolen from Sindrome.
Dysfunctional Rotout and others except Willow Mount - downloads only.

Castle Blak - glam

Giza Uchawi - apparenly this project never existed.

Throdl - too much experimental - core based.

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BlackMetalGirl
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:14 am 
 

I'm quite sure that this:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=38189
and this:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=111390
are the same band. I'm not 100%, but it's highly probably. Opinion?
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Futuresynner
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:42 am 
 

ralfman wrote:
As you might noticed i've been adding many indonesian bands lately.
These ones added by user thrashmania80gr today are not new for me, however...

The fact is, i really doubt their "Metalness"

Red Spider:

In their album , To me only 2, 3 songs deserve the tag Metal. I think is much more Glam/AOR type than Heavy Metal.

As for the 2 splits, the same. 1 song can be Metal Perhaps 2.

Of course this is my opinion

Here are the samples:
http://klasikrock-klasikrockindonesia.b ... Red+Spider


And did you listen to their Compilation tracks as well? It's Power/Speed Metal. If you remove these kind of bands from MA you have to remove ALL malay bands that released albums in the 80's early 90's as well because they are basically of the same kind. 3 Metal tracks and rest ballads to be played at radio stations. To understand their philosophy you have to understand the rules of their record companies who signed bands but dictated to play mainly ballads to be played at radio stations. No ballads = no record deal.
I may understand that SAS are mostly softer stuff but Jet Liar?? C'mon...Andromedha, Red Spider....all Metal, despite of the softer songs. It's still a 50:50 mix but Jet Liar are totally Metal. I really can't understand this. Metal bands that are forced to play the soft crap don't get accepted because someone dictated then to play so. These Compilations feature a Speed Metal song and a ballad of each...so this does not make them Metal? As far as I remember Metallica had several ballads...so they are not Metal right?
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Drowned
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:22 am 
 

Futuresynner wrote:
I may understand that SAS are mostly softer stuff but Jet Liar?? C'mon...Andromedha, Red Spider....all Metal, despite of the softer songs. It's still a 50:50 mix but Jet Liar are totally Metal.

...

And did you listen to their Compilation tracks as well? It's Power/Speed Metal.


It's not. It is predominantly glam/hard rock ballads. Of all the Red Spider songs on those compilations, only one can be considered metal. The other bands are the same.

Futuresynner wrote:
If you remove these kind of bands from MA you have to remove ALL malay bands that released albums in the 80's early 90's as well because they are basically of the same kind. 3 Metal tracks and rest ballads to be played at radio stations. To understand their philosophy you have to understand the rules of their record companies who signed bands but dictated to play mainly ballads to be played at radio stations. No ballads = no record deal.


But you have to understand our rules, which clearly state that a band's release must be predominantly metal for them to be accepted here. We're not going to make exceptions for these bands just because the record companies screwed them.

Until somebody compiles all of Red Spider's or Jet Liar's metal songs on one album and releases them officially then these bands will remain unacceptable.

Futuresynner wrote:
As far as I remember Metallica had several ballads...so they are not Metal right?


:durr:

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:35 am 
 

I have deleted Deef, they have two singles and only the first song on second single is metal, the three other songs are aor.

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Sleazer777
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:09 am 
 

ASHBURY http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=34312 .Not METAL 70s Bluesy Prog Rock.Just one Heavier song "Vengeance" on 1983 LP.2004 CD is even more less Hard Rock oriented.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:10 pm 
 

http://www.myspace.com/wordasavirus
Word as A Virus - more noise rock than anything else.

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kimiwind
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:32 pm 
 

How could this band been accepted ?
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540305649
Release date according to their Myspace is 08 May.
Still several days to go!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:07 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=27425
side project with worldwide distribution? Hardly.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:02 pm 
 

Bömber - First & Last Demo, FUCK OFF!! - not out yet. Deleted
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Now something famous. It is Fallout with Peter Steel, the music is basically seventies hard rock with sometimes new wave rock styled keyboards. Not bad, but no really metal.

http://vibrationsofdoom.com/test/test2/Fallout.html


Dark Rhapsody - reported as having no releases.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:33 am 
 

Excess (Esp) - hard rock
Also Alien (US) - mostly commercial hard rock with one heavier song "headbangin'
http://vibrationsofdoom.com/test/test2/Alien.html

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:42 am 
 

New edition of the thread:
http://metal-archives.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=1554170

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