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ralfman
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:43 pm 
 

I have a bunch of cds that are incomplete. Or lacking cover, back cover or the discs.

For this or that reason i got them like this or kept them like this. And like this they mean nothing or are worth nothing to me.

The purpose of this topic is to find someone that might have the same cds i have but the other way around. And with whom i'm willing to trade one or more items for the right one so i or you can complete those items that lack something.

So , here goes:

Without front cover or booklet

Candlemass - chapter VI (1992-Music for Nations)
Cryptic / Prophecy - Deep Ass Punishment (2001/Noise Variations)

Without Discs (scratched or broken) (anyone have a promo of these? OR WANTS THE COVERS?)

Unothodox - balance of power (1994- Hellhound)

Without back covers

Morbid Angel - gateways to annihilation (2000-Earache)
Bolt Thrower - war master (1991/2003-Earache)
Therion - of darkness... (1991-Deaf)
Phlebotomized - skycontact (1997-Cyber Music)
Infernal Torment - mans true nature (1995/RRS)
Violation - beyond the graves (1998-Last Episode)

others

Spiderpact - Goatspeed Into Magenta Vacuum
--- only have the front cover/artwork---
Cryfemal - Perpetua Funebre Gloria
--- just have booklet/front cover---
Din Addict - Music for openminded people
--- Just front cover ---

Monstrosity - Millenium (promo cardbord cd, 1996-Conquest)
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ShunSacer
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:52 pm 
 

Excellent thread, Ralfman!

I own the following CD's without booklet and backcover:

Death - Human (got it for free in a 2nd hand shop)
God Macabre - The Winterlong (original release, got it for 2.50 euro in a 2nd hand music shop)

Can anyone provide me with the booklets + backcovers? Perhaps in a trade?

Cheers,

Shun
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Asti78
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:43 pm 
 

If anyone has the following this would be great:

Asphyx - Embrace the death (backcover)
Hypocrisy - Virus (backcover)
Dawn - Naer solen... (frontcover firstpress)
God Forsaken - Dismal Gleams of Desolation (frontcover)
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VRR
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:23 pm 
 

A spares thread? good call.

I - inexplicably - have a spare front booklet for Isengard - Vinterskugge, plus a fairly worn Burzum/Aske digipak case. No idea where they came from as I have complete copies of both already... :???:
Still, if these are of use to anyone, let me know.

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BreedingtheSpawn
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:17 pm 
 

I need an Suffocation Despise the Sun CD booklet. I need the booklet for the Relapse CD version.

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ralfman
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:19 pm 
 

Dismember - indicent & obscene (1993-Nuclear Blast)
---just the disc (1st press)---

added
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Madcow
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:09 pm 
 

Good topic indeed !
posted a same sort of thread some time ago :

http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... hp?t=52164

here's what i'm looking for :

Missing booklets or/and inlays
so from these i'm looking for the paperwork !!

Absu - Sun Of Tiphareth - Osmose Productions - 1995 (only booklet)
Death - Spiritual Healing - Combat/Relativity - 1990 (only booklet)
Diabolos Rising - Blood, Vampirism, Sadism - Osmose Productions - 1996 (missing both booklet and inlay)
Elexorien - Elexorien - Trollzorn/SMP Records - 2007 (missing both booklet and inlay)
Eschaton/Burial Hordes - Total Gathering of Supremacy - God Is Dead Records - 2007 (missing both booklet and inlay)
Maniac Butcher - Barbarians - Pussy God Records - 1995 (only booklet)
Nazxul - Totem - Vampire - 1995 (only booklet)
Usurper - Cryptobeast - Earache Records - 2005 (only booklet)


Damaged discs :
so from these i'm looking for the discs, promo's or something like that !!

Amorphis - The Karelian Isthmus - Nuclear Blast Records - 1993
Death - Scream Bloody Gore - Combat/Under One Flag - 1987
Diabolos Rising - 666 - Osmose Productions - 1994
Limbonic Art - Moon in the Scorpio - Nocturnal Art Productions - 1996
Malevolent Creation - Retribution - Roadrunner Records - 1992
Ministry - Psalm 69: The Way To Succeed And The Way To Suck Eggs - Sire/Warner Bros. - 1992
Monstrosity - In Dark Purity
System Of A Down - System Of A Down - Columbia - 1998
Ulver - Nattens Madrigal ~ Aatte Hymne Til Ulven I Manden - Century Media - 1997

offer me stuff you have, i want to trade ...
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karan
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Location: Mexico
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:10 pm 
 

ShunSacer wrote:
Excellent thread, Ralfman!

I own the following CD's without booklet and backcover:

Death - Human (got it for free in a 2nd hand shop)
God Macabre - The Winterlong (original release, got it for 2.50 euro in a 2nd hand music shop)

Can anyone provide me with the booklets + backcovers? Perhaps in a trade?

Cheers,

Shun

I have a full Death "Human" Booklet and backcover with no CD...I already have mine...so we can set a trade or something...by the way it is signed by Evil Chuck...

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DisembowelMe
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Location: Iceland
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:35 pm 
 

I have Cannibal Corpse - The Wretched Spawn, limited digipack edition with the Making Of dvd, but the CD is broken.

I'd love to buy the CD alone.

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c4d4v3r
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:10 pm 
 

i need Slammer (UK) - Work of Idle Hands booklet,mine is wet!
i can trade for one of this booklets that mine cds have 2 booklets:
Torchure "Beyong the Veil"
Bathory "Bathory" 1990 Press
Living Death "Killing In Action"
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ralfman
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:37 pm 
 

karan wrote:
ShunSacer wrote:
Excellent thread, Ralfman!

I own the following CD's without booklet and backcover:

Death - Human (got it for free in a 2nd hand shop)
God Macabre - The Winterlong (original release, got it for 2.50 euro in a 2nd hand music shop)

Can anyone provide me with the booklets + backcovers? Perhaps in a trade?

Cheers,

Shun

I have a full Death "Human" Booklet and backcover with no CD...I already have mine...so we can set a trade or something...by the way it is signed by Evil Chuck...


You lucky bastards....

I think Shun wont be able to answer you soon ´cause he's on vacation.
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ralfman
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:54 pm 
 

UPDATE
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battleaxe
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Location: Poland
PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 4:50 pm 
 

Hi. i have this problem with my vinyl records :

printed envelope/insert is missing :

- protector - urm the mad
- violence - eternal nightmare
- mortal sin - mayhemic destruction ( vertigo )
- jumpin jesus - art of crucyfying
- kreator - terrible certainty

lp is damaged :

holy moses - queen of siam ( aaarg)
exhorder - slaughter in vatican

Does anybody have any spare parts to those records?

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BreedingtheSpawn
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:58 pm 
 

I need the Suffocation- Despise the Sun CD booklet along with Grave- Fiendish Agression and Kataklysm- Prevail CD's. I have the booklets and inlay cards. If anyone has this stuff up for trade let me know. I can offer complete CDs for it.

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into_the_pit
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:36 pm 
 

HAVE: double copy of tormentor's anno domini cd front cover (NAP)

NEED: emperor-in the nightside eclipse cd front cover (candlelight first press)
disc 1 of ildjarn is dead
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ralfman
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:55 am 
 

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c4d4v3r
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:39 pm 
 

i need Slammer (UK) - Work of Idle Hands booklet,mine is wet!

I have these:
mine cds have 2 booklets:
Torchure "Beyong the Veil"
Bathory "Bathory" 1990 Press
Living Death "Killing In Action"
I have as well ,
Opeth - Orchid Booklet and back cover (Cd skips!!)
Satyricon - Ten Horns - Ten Diadems digipack (No CD)
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funereal_luxuria
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:28 am 
 

I have a cover of TOXIK World circus original press.
I have tharaphita cd-r covers (cd-r doesn't play anymore).

I need the Isengard 'hostmorke' disc (first press) and the Confessor 'Unraveled' disc.
AARNI bathos disc
WISHBONE ASH - pilgrimage disc
XASTHUR - subliminal genocide disc
SINISTER - hate booklet

edit:
also, i need some infos on 2 lp's:
god forsaken - dismal gleams
megaslaughter - calls from the beyond.

I have these with blank insert. is right?
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DMR
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Location: United States
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:04 pm 
 

I have the booklet and traycard for Einherjer - Aurora Borealis (Necropolis) if anyone needs them.

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MorskNorsk
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Joined: Fri May 13, 2005 7:07 pm
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Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:49 pm 
 

Need (or extras, if you take the inverse):
Wyrd - Wrath & Revenge | Omvina | NOV 005 | CD only
Wyrd - Vargtimmed Pt. II | Omvina | NOV 009 | CD only
Zarathustra - Heroic Zarathustrian Heresy | Undercover | UCR 04 MCD | CD only
Denial of God - The Dawn of Aemizaez: demos 1992-1993| NSOL007 | Booklet

Extras:
Pagan Hammer - Pagan Hammer (keepcase) | all artwork & case
Nordvrede - Northern Frontlines | Booklet (x2), traycard (x2)
Hellwitch - Syzygial Miscreancy | Displeased | Booklet, CD
Nocturnal - Violent Revenge | Displeased | Booklet, CD

I don't mind paying a few dollars to get the CDs, if they're in good condition either.

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ShunSacer
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Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:33 am
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Location: Netherlands
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:31 pm 
 

karan wrote:
ShunSacer wrote:
Excellent thread, Ralfman!

I own the following CD's without booklet and backcover:

Death - Human (got it for free in a 2nd hand shop)
God Macabre - The Winterlong (original release, got it for 2.50 euro in a 2nd hand music shop)

Can anyone provide me with the booklets + backcovers? Perhaps in a trade?

Cheers,

Shun

I have a full Death "Human" Booklet and backcover with no CD...I already have mine...so we can set a trade or something...by the way it is signed by Evil Chuck...


Wow, nice offer! But MadCow offered me his booklet already. And regarding that signature...wouldn't you prefer to keep it yourself??
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DisembowelMe
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:14 pm 
 

Need: The booklet for The Gathering's "if_then_else" digipack.

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w_o_m
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:48 pm 
 

Without Back Cover
Bolt Thrower - Warmaster Combat/Earache 1991

Without Slipcase
Ulver - Themes From William Blake

Full Artwork, no CD
Cirith Ungol - One Foot in Hell
Slayer - Hell awaits Metal Blade 1993

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megatherion76
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:52 am 
 

I need the booklet of D.A.M-Inside Out CD.Thanks
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USW
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Location: France
PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:08 am 
 

Hi
I need the back cover of:

Debauchery- torture pit ( black attakk )
Equilibrium - turis fratr ( black attakk )
Angst - in hoc signo vinces ( black attakk )
Dat Politics - mad kit ( chick on speed )
chicks on speed - cutting the edge ( chick on speed )
highagte - st ( total rust )
volition - st ( total rust )
Sleeptime - motion ( pogo rec )
the gecko brothers - stop bit chin ( drunkabilly )
spedball jr - whiplash ( drunkabilly )

not necessary the original back cover, Pro good quality photocopies are welcomed !!!!!!!!!!!

phil

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knochen
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:17 am 
 

Hello,

I need the back covers for :

Thy Grief - the frozen tomb of mankind/Solistitium
Tsjuder - kill for satan/Drakkar
Tyrant - legend/Displeased
Tunrida - hierarchy/solistitium
Tidfall - circular supremacy/nocturnal art
Unlord - lord of beneath/Displeased
Andras - quest of deliverance/Last Episode
Andras - sword of revenge/Last Episode

If you have something please pm me or email at herr_knochen@yahoo.com

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ralfman
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:34 pm 
 

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Metal_Fayyaz
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:47 am 
 

I have :

IN THE WOODS - A Return To The Isle Of Mand - complete booklet and inlay cover but a crack disc - unplayable !
NIGHT IN GALES - Thunder Beast - Only complete booklet and inlay cover
SPLATTERED CADAVER - Mercilles Butchery - only complete booklet and inlay cover (I have 5 copies of this)

I will trade those for :
a complete booklet and inlay cover of SINISTER Cross The Styx
a complete booklet and inlay cover of HYPOCRYSY Virus
a complete booklet and inlay cover of DERANGED High In Blood
a complete booklet and inlay cover of BLOODBATH Nightmare Made Flesh
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funereal_luxuria
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:56 am 
 

I also need the booklet for Sinister 'hate'.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:27 am 
 

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into_the_pit
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:44 am 
 

HAVE: double copy of tormentor's anno domini cd front cover (NAP)

NEED: emperor-in the nightside eclipse cd front cover (candlelight first press)
disc 1 of ildjarn is dead
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:18 pm 
 

Hey, has anyone the booklet for EVOCATION tales from the tomb CD?

I have (for sale or trade):
CANNIBAL CORPSE Gore obsessed CD, Slipcase
EXHUMED Slaughtercult Booklet, Backcover, Jewelcase (w/Sticker)
THE ABYSS The other side Backcover

7"-Cover:
NAPALM DEATH/S.O.B. Split EP

LP-Covers:
FLAME Into the age of fire (2005 Iron Pegasus)
GRAVELAND Following the voice of blood/Impaler's wolves (2001 No Colours Records, small writing on backcover)
SATHANAS Entering the diabolic trinity (2006 Iron Pegasus Records, small writing on backcover)
SETHERIAL Hell eternal (1999 Perverted Taste, incl. Inlay, slight dog-ear left bottom corner)
TARANIS Taranis (2007 Iron Pegasus Records)
WOLFSWINTER Nordal (2001 Christhunt Productions, small seam-split on left side)

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Metal_Fayyaz
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:45 pm 
 

c'mon let swap incomplete discs or discs covers.... fill the blank on our collection.
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AppleQueso
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:20 am 
 

I have a few cds with no covers, unfortunately I don't have anything I'm willing to trade. I can pay though.

I need a full case + booklet for:
Vader - The Art of War
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness (2002 Earache reissue)

I have other cds without cases, but they're pretty much in unusable condition. I bought them that way from a flea market and was too excited at the time to check. Two others I have are from Roadrunner's "two from the vault" series and are both missing their companions and cases. Not going to worry about listing those since I doubt anyone would have what I need, and I'm okay with that.

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funereal_luxuria
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:31 am 
 

bump to the top.
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Desolator
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:47 am 
 

I have a Vinterriket promo slipcase without CD for Landschaften....
If anyone needs this, drop me a line, I don't need it at all.
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ralfman
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:06 pm 
 

c'mon people!!! anyone has promos of the discs i need?
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Slayerduqc
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:29 pm 
 

I have the following front and back covers in perfect condition if anybody is interested

- Manowar - into glory ride
- Manowar - Hail to england
- Hellish Crossfire - Slave of the burning pentagram

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Mantis44
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:58 pm 
 

I only have one item:

NAILBOMB - POINT BLANK inlay only. It's the original Roadrunner press, not the BMG licensed version.

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ralfman
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:05 am 
 

Can anyone get semi-pro or good pro-copied cover ?
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