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cloud197
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:38 pm 
 

I like a lot of grindcore, like Insect Warfare, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, Napalm Death, Pig Destroyer, Retaliation, ENT, Oktober Skyline (but they have breakdowns?), Brutal Truth, Hatred Surge, and Trap Them. I also like a lot of Powerviolence, like Charles Bronson, Bucket Full Of Teeth, Fuck On The Beach, Los Crudos, Quill, Spazz, Siege, Crippled Monguloid, and Wilbur Cobb. Based of my taste in grindcore and Powerviolence, what else would you recommend to me that maybe mixes the intensity of powerviolence with grindcore? I'm also kind of looking for some grindcore that has slower sludgy parts.

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theposega
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:40 pm 
 

@cloud197:Powerviolence/grind: Magrudergrind, Spoonful of Vicodin, Weekend Nachos (more powerviolence than grind though).

Sludge/grind: Maruta.
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cloud197
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:45 pm 
 

Awesome, thanks for the recommendations, I'll go check those out.

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MescalineSunrise
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:40 am 
 

Check out Armed Response Unit. Good powerviolence.

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wigglygore
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:57 am 
 

cloud197 wrote:
I like a lot of grindcore, like Insect Warfare, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, Napalm Death, Pig Destroyer, Retaliation, ENT, Oktober Skyline (but they have breakdowns?), Brutal Truth, Hatred Surge, and Trap Them. I also like a lot of Powerviolence, like Charles Bronson, Bucket Full Of Teeth, Fuck On The Beach, Los Crudos, Quill, Spazz, Siege, Crippled Monguloid, and Wilbur Cobb. Based of my taste in grindcore and Powerviolence, what else would you recommend to me that maybe mixes the intensity of powerviolence with grindcore? I'm also kind of looking for some grindcore that has slower sludgy parts.


The grind side of things:
Captain Cleanoff
Super Fun Happy Slide
Roskopp
The Kill
Beyond Terror Beyond Grace
Agents Of Abhorrance

The powerviolence side of things:
Dropdead
Crossedout
Iron Lung

The grind w/sludge side of things:
diSEMBOWELMENT
Hemdale
Accept Death
Garbage Guts
Kutabare
Dad They Broke Me
Shagnum

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Bobby_Typhoon
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:10 am 
 

I really enjoy Gut's The Cumback, and I know they aren't straight up grindcore, but if anybody could rec me some stuff that sounds similiar that would really be appreciated.
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wigglygore
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:22 am 
 

If you liked nu-GUT, you cannot go past old GUT. Odour Of Torture is a fucking great album, much better than The Singles Collection, which suffers from too many overly long sampled intros. And check out Mucupurulent - Sicko Baby for more original groovy german goregrind. Another album worth checking out as well is Tu Carne - Me Quedo Con Tu Dolor! as it is one of their more almost total groove orientated releases. Then you have countless amounts of Mucupurulent/GUT inspired bands. Some are fucking A! most are pathetic, ill leave you to search thru myspace to find those bands yourself. I remember the band Shemale were pretty good, and had some GUT covers on their 2008 demo.

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Bobby_Typhoon
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:20 am 
 

wigglygore wrote:
If you liked nu-GUT, you cannot go past old GUT. Odour Of Torture is a fucking great album, much better than The Singles Collection, which suffers from too many overly long sampled intros. And check out Mucupurulent - Sicko Baby for more original groovy german goregrind. Another album worth checking out as well is Tu Carne - Me Quedo Con Tu Dolor! as it is one of their more almost total groove orientated releases. Then you have countless amounts of Mucupurulent/GUT inspired bands. Some are fucking A! most are pathetic, ill leave you to search thru myspace to find those bands yourself. I remember the band Shemale were pretty good, and had some GUT covers on their 2008 demo.


Thanks, can't wait to check these out.
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MescalineSunrise
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:22 am 
 

wigglygore wrote:
cloud197 wrote:
I like a lot of grindcore, like Insect Warfare, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, Napalm Death, Pig Destroyer, Retaliation, ENT, Oktober Skyline (but they have breakdowns?), Brutal Truth, Hatred Surge, and Trap Them. I also like a lot of Powerviolence, like Charles Bronson, Bucket Full Of Teeth, Fuck On The Beach, Los Crudos, Quill, Spazz, Siege, Crippled Monguloid, and Wilbur Cobb. Based of my taste in grindcore and Powerviolence, what else would you recommend to me that maybe mixes the intensity of powerviolence with grindcore? I'm also kind of looking for some grindcore that has slower sludgy parts.


The grind side of things:
Captain Cleanoff


That band is so fucking good.

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Axel_Sikth
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:38 am 
 

MescalineSunrise wrote:
wigglygore wrote:
The grind side of things:
Captain Cleanoff


That band is so fucking good.


No disagreements there man. :D
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theposega
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:44 pm 
 

Mumakil's new album, "Behold the Failure" has leaked. Anyone hear it? I'm listening right now and it's really good. Like Rotten Sound fucked up on PCP.
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weakling_goat
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:50 pm 
 

theposega wrote:
Mumakil's new album, "Behold the Failure" has leaked. Anyone hear it? I'm listening right now and it's really good. Like Rotten Sound fucked up on PCP.

I haven't heard it yet. Is it as good as their last?

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theposega
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:10 pm 
 

I like it better. There's almost no squeals in it, and they've just stepped it up in general.
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wigglygore
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:12 am 
 

MescalineSunrise wrote:
wigglygore wrote:
The grind side of things:
Captain Cleanoff


That band is so fucking good.


And absolutely blistering live!

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cloud197
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:45 am 
 

wigglygore wrote:
cloud197 wrote:
I like a lot of grindcore, like Insect Warfare, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, Napalm Death, Pig Destroyer, Retaliation, ENT, Oktober Skyline (but they have breakdowns?), Brutal Truth, Hatred Surge, and Trap Them. I also like a lot of Powerviolence, like Charles Bronson, Bucket Full Of Teeth, Fuck On The Beach, Los Crudos, Quill, Spazz, Siege, Crippled Monguloid, and Wilbur Cobb. Based of my taste in grindcore and Powerviolence, what else would you recommend to me that maybe mixes the intensity of powerviolence with grindcore? I'm also kind of looking for some grindcore that has slower sludgy parts.


The grind side of things:
Captain Cleanoff
Super Fun Happy Slide
Roskopp
The Kill
Beyond Terror Beyond Grace
Agents Of Abhorrance

The powerviolence side of things:
Dropdead
Crossedout
Iron Lung

The grind w/sludge side of things:
diSEMBOWELMENT
Hemdale
Accept Death
Garbage Guts
Kutabare
Dad They Broke Me
Shagnum


Sweet thanks for some more recommendations, I liked a lot of the bands that I've checked out so far.

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Nyaricus
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:56 am 
 

Still looking for recs for this, thanks =)

Misery Index. Their album Traitors. Aggressive-as-fuck deathgrind with this HUGE(!!) punk rock vibe/influence. The album is FAR too short, and leaves you wanting another good 10 or 15 minutes, and yet it would totally ruin it if it went on for any more. I NEED another album like this - I'm not familiar with their other albums, and one of the guys is ex-Dying Fetus, which I still need to check out more thoroughly. Shoot me some names, PLEASE!!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:12 am 
 

The Rotted - Get Dead Or Die Trying is the best I can think of.
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Axel_Sikth
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:16 am 
 

theposega wrote:
Mumakil's new album, "Behold the Failure" has leaked. Anyone hear it? I'm listening right now and it's really good. Like Rotten Sound fucked up on PCP.


I gave it a spin a while ago, and based on first impressions, I have to say I enjoy Customized Warfare more, simply because it was heavier and had better riffs. I'll have to give it a couple of more listens though, as I was also chatting with people at the time.
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theposega
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:54 pm 
 

Axel_Sikth wrote:
theposega wrote:
Mumakil's new album, "Behold the Failure" has leaked. Anyone hear it? I'm listening right now and it's really good. Like Rotten Sound fucked up on PCP.


I gave it a spin a while ago, and based on first impressions, I have to say I enjoy Customized Warfare more, simply because it was heavier and had better riffs. I'll have to give it a couple of more listens though, as I was also chatting with people at the time.


"Customized Warfare" was a great album. They seem to have lost a lot of their brutal death influences on "Behold the Failure" though.

P.S. I downloaded the Insect Warfare EP from your blog. :thumbsup:
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Rippingheadache
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:23 pm 
 

I'm actually quite impressed with Behold the Failure. I also checked out Antigama's Warning which was released earlier this year and was also a nice slab of grind. Relapse should be releasing more albums like these, not Cosmogenesis.

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theposega
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:26 pm 
 

I have yet to check out "Cosmogenesis". I haven't been in the mood for any technical death metal in months.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:46 pm 
 

Rippingheadache wrote:
I also checked out Antigama's Warning which was released earlier this year and was also a nice slab of grind. Relapse should be releasing more albums like these, not Cosmogenesis.

Ah, Warning is very good, but if you want the pinnacle of Antigama, go for Resonance.
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marktheviktor
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:53 pm 
 

cloud197 wrote:
Awesome, thanks for the recommendations, I'll go check those out.


Also give Disfigured By Butchery by a German goregrind band called Gonorrhoeaction a shot.

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awm
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:29 pm 
 

I have asked this numerous times to zero avail.

The only grind album I *really* enjoy is Phobia's Cruel. That includes the rest of the Phobia discography. Is there anything on par with this album? I am assuming it represents the punk side of grindcore.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:42 am 
 

From what I've heard off Warning so far, it's pretty interesting, but the snare sound is atrocious. The tom sounds are rather amusing though.

@awm

I'll just take a shot in the dark here and recommend you Magrudergrind's Rehashed. It's essentally a mix of hardcore punk and thrash played at grindcore speeds. They don't have a bassist, so they sound rather thin, but they make up for it in speed and aggression.
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Lukeskywalker
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Looking for some crusty Death/Grind like Disrupt, and bands in the vain of Grinded Nig not necessarily NS.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:59 pm 
 

Lukeskywalker wrote:
Looking for some crusty Death/Grind like Disrupt, and bands in the vain of Grinded Nig not necessarily NS.


Well I wont bother listening to Grinded Nig but for bands like Disrupt : early Phobia, early E.N.T, early S.O.B, Mass grave and Looking For An Answer. Also check out Doom, they are crust punk but they have a big influence on Disrupt.
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marktheviktor wrote:
A friend of mine loves Cock and Ball Torture. One of her favorite bands. I just don't get it. Not very metal in my opinion.



What!?!? Cock and Ball Torture are awesome....!!

Those groovy riffs, the solid but "almost playing above their level, so it kinda sounds shitty - in a good way" drumming, the pitch shifted vocals....


personally, I think they are perfect....
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:08 am 
 

I like Cock And Ball Torture, but their vocals aren't for me.
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Cock and Ball Torture is awesome, aside from Sadochismo which is just dull.

Mark: Egoleech is most definitely very metal (and the only reason why they're on MA really ;) and quite awesome at that, one giant death metal groovefest.

Their early pornogrind stuff is better though (but not metal, so that's probably what markthevictor is talking about), Opus(sy) IV is just tops. Cocktales is good but pales abit compared to Opus, but whatever.

They also love table tennis, in their words "Table tennis is our second name! Cock and Bloody Table Tennis (CABTT!!).

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Cock and Ball Torture is awesome, aside from Sadochismo which is just dull.

Mark: Egoleech is most definitely very metal (and the only reason why they're on MA really ;) and quite awesome at that, one giant death metal groovefest.

Their early pornogrind stuff is better though (but not metal, so that's probably what markthevictor is talking about), Opus(sy) IV is just tops. Cocktales is good but pales abit compared to Opus, but whatever.

They also love table tennis, in their words "Table tennis is our second name! Cock and Bloody Table Tennis (CABTT!!).

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Nyaricus wrote:
Still looking for recs for this, thanks =)

Misery Index. Their album Traitors. Aggressive-as-fuck deathgrind with this HUGE(!!) punk rock vibe/influence. The album is FAR too short, and leaves you wanting another good 10 or 15 minutes, and yet it would totally ruin it if it went on for any more. I NEED another album like this - I'm not familiar with their other albums, and one of the guys is ex-Dying Fetus, which I still need to check out more thoroughly. Shoot me some names, PLEASE!!
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Any of you guys heard of Mammoth Grinder? Really great stuff, in the vein of Cursed and Trap Them.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:49 am 
 

MescalineSunrise wrote:
Any of you guys heard of Mammoth Grinder? Really great stuff, in the vein of Cursed and Trap Them.


Man, you just sent me on a hardcore binge. I checked out their EP, No Results and it ain't bad. I personally find Cursed and Trap Them better though, more intense. Now I'm enjoying me some Catharsis. Powerful stuff. The fact that they manage to (tastefully) weave in double-bass and spoken-word sections into their sound should pique people's interests. And man, do I love these vocals. Raw, ugly, and ever so emotive. Think this will keep my appetite whetted until Converge's new release hits. :P

On topic, though, has anyone heard of the band Bodies in the Gears of the Apparatus? Really abrasive and aggressive stuff, sort of like Calculating Infinity-era-Dillinger Escape Plan beefed up by whatever Hulk is on. And damn do they have some interesing song titles.
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What are the stylistic differences between grindcore and goregrind?
Is it just lyrical, or is it something else?
(Please don't bash me, as I've heard little of either outside Napalm Death, Pig Destroyer, early Red Chord, and Cattle Decapitation)

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Apparently goregrind differs from grindcore in that lyrically it fixates on well, gore, features use of pitchshifted vocals, heavily downtuned guitars, and grooves. I'm no expert on goregrinf though, so you'll have to consult wigglygore or theposega.
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MOTGLchris wrote:
What are the stylistic differences between grindcore and goregrind?
Is it just lyrical, or is it something else?
(Please don't bash me, as I've heard little of either outside Napalm Death, Pig Destroyer, early Red Chord, and Cattle Decapitation)


Goregrind is just a fancy term for grindcore with a more death-y sound and lyrics about pathology and or gore. General Surgery and Haemmorhaege are outstanding examples of this.

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It's evolved more into a simmering pile of infected shit Mark.;)

Basically goregrind is Carcass' first album and it's retarded afterbirth.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:53 pm 
 

marktheviktor wrote:
MOTGLchris wrote:
What are the stylistic differences between grindcore and goregrind?
Is it just lyrical, or is it something else?
(Please don't bash me, as I've heard little of either outside Napalm Death, Pig Destroyer, early Red Chord, and Cattle Decapitation)


Goregrind is just a fancy term for grindcore with a more death-y sound and lyrics about pathology and or gore. General Surgery and Haemmorhaege are outstanding examples of this.

Awesome, thanks.
That's what I was thinking...
But just to make sure I'm on the right track, is Vaginal Chicken goregrind?

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MOTGLchris wrote:
marktheviktor wrote:
MOTGLchris wrote:
What are the stylistic differences between grindcore and goregrind?
Is it just lyrical, or is it something else?
(Please don't bash me, as I've heard little of either outside Napalm Death, Pig Destroyer, early Red Chord, and Cattle Decapitation)


Goregrind is just a fancy term for grindcore with a more death-y sound and lyrics about pathology and or gore. General Surgery and Haemmorhaege are outstanding examples of this.

Awesome, thanks.
That's what I was thinking...
But just to make sure I'm on the right track, is Vaginal Chicken goregrind?


That's a tough one. I'd say Vaginal Chicken straddle the borderline between grindcore and goregrind. A lot of the riffs are very grindcore-ish, but the vocals are mostly super-guttural goregrind style vocals, and there are some goregrind-ish breakdowns and such. I'd say half and half.

EDIT: The archives say: Brutal Death/Grindcore. So there you go.

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