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NexusofThecrisis
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:18 pm 
 

Anyone heard of this band? They are certainly one of the most interesting bands I've come across in awhile. Thoughts? Reccomendations?
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Misainzig
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:20 pm 
 

They aren't interesting in any sense of the word, unless you find Japanese lady-boys slightly attractive.
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Empyreal
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:47 pm 
 

They're total shit in every department. Bad music, bad music videos, bad image, everything.
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Bobby_Typhoon
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:50 pm 
 

Yeah, check out the album "Vulgar" it's one of their goodies. If you like them you should also check out the groups MUCC, Girugamesh, D'espairs Ray, and Malice Mizer.

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Chavaluria
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:35 am 
 

why they were on Wacken 2007? :|
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BastardHead
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:46 am 
 

If there is anything I remember about them, it's that they sucked the big enchilada.
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Chavaluria
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:46 am 
 

BastardHead wrote:
If there is anything I remember about them, it's that they sucked the big enchilada.


LOL WUT?
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The_Beast_in_Black
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:26 am 
 

Pretty terrible band. Definitive visual kei faggotry.
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Axel_Sikth
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:36 am 
 

I like them, though that may only be because I'm turned on by metrosexuals. Well, either that, or I'm open-minded and mature enough to look past their image and actually enjoy the music without thinking "Ew. Are those guys GAY?!"

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doom_monger
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:53 pm 
 

Empyreal wrote:
They're total shit in every department. Bad music, bad music videos, bad image, everything.

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Unholy_Asar
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:04 pm 
 

Why does visual kei suck?

"Because metal is supposed to be cool."

This is the truth. They suck. Hard. :ugh:


....



:puke:
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Forrizzledog
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:23 pm 
 

I don't like real Marilyn Manson, why would I want a third rate Japanese knockoff when some genuinely good bands come from Japan?
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Empyreal
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:24 pm 
 

People seriously consider this metal? I never even got that from the people on an anime forum I frequent.
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mattp
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:45 pm 
 

I used to love Dir en Grey. Then I discovered good music.
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Rottenrectum
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:59 pm 
 

Apart from the song Yokan which I was hooked on completely for one summer, I don't like this band, or any visual kei band for that matter.

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NocturnalHolocaust
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:59 pm 
 

I like how the OP hasn't made a reply yet. Anyways, Dir en Grey are quite annoying.

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NexusofThecrisis
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:06 pm 
 

NocturnalHolocaust wrote:
I like how the OP hasn't made a reply yet. Anyways, Dir en Grey are quite annoying.


I don't get on the forums alot actually. Judging by the song "Dozing Green" I heard, I thought people on here would like them. I guess not lol. Oh well. Its not like I base what music I like on what is accepted here. I'll listen to Dir en grey all I want.
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Axel_Sikth
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:59 am 
 

Forrizzledog wrote:
I don't like real Marilyn Manson, why would I want a third rate Japanese knockoff when some genuinely good bands come from Japan?


Yeah, because albums like Withering to Death or Uroboros sound exactly like blatant ripoffs of stuff like Antichrist Superstar or Eat Me, Drink Me. :roll:

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Unholy_Asar
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:57 am 
 

Axel_Sikth wrote:
Forrizzledog wrote:
I don't like real Marilyn Manson, why would I want a third rate Japanese knockoff when some genuinely good bands come from Japan?


Yeah, because albums like Withering to Death or Uroboros sound exactly like blatant ripoffs of stuff like Antichrist Superstar or Eat Me, Drink Me. :roll:


Varying degrees of crap is still crap.

Comparing the two is like comparing feces to diarrhea. Their properties might be different but a healthy person would want very little to do with either one.
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Pfuntner
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:08 am 
 

I've only heard a few songs, but they didn't spark any interest in me. Their singer sounded like he would kill a man to kiss Mike Patton's shoes. The rest of the music was faceless.
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thomash
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:31 am 
 

Pfuntner wrote:
Their singer sounded like he would kill a man to kiss Mike Patton's shoes.

That's not necessarily a bad thing; Patton's a fantastic vocalist, even if he does have odd taste. Their singer is too bad to have any influences as good as Mike Patton.

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Totenstille
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Joined: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:17 am
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:01 am 
 

Misainzig wrote:
They aren't interesting in any sense of the word, unless you find Japanese lady-boys slightly attractive.


Hehe, I agree.

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Axel_Sikth
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:37 am 
 

Unholy_Asar wrote:
Varying degrees of crap is still crap.

Comparing the two is like comparing feces to diarrhea. Their properties might be different but a healthy person would want very little to do with either one.


Subjectively speaking, I can't fault you. Whether you like them or not, however, doesn't change the fact that Marilyn Manson's music and Dir en grey's music sound very different from each other. I simply pointed that out. No need to get pissy.

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mjaeltbrand
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:25 am 
 

mattp wrote:
I used to love Dir en Grey. Then I discovered good music.


I never liked Dir en Grey. Then I discovered good music.
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Wet Pussy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:30 am 
 

Dir En What? I didn't know of em, even before I got into metal. I guess you learn something new everyday. I should watch the TV more often...
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rathofgod
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:32 am 
 

mjaeltbrand wrote:
I never liked Dir en Grey. Then I discovered good music.


This.

I had a friend who was pretty into them a while back, but I never could sit through more than the first minute or so of a song.
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Forrizzledog
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:56 pm 
 

Axel_Sikth wrote:
Forrizzledog wrote:
I don't like real Marilyn Manson, why would I want a third rate Japanese knockoff when some genuinely good bands come from Japan?


Yeah, because albums like Withering to Death or Uroboros sound exactly like blatant ripoffs of stuff like Antichrist Superstar or Eat Me, Drink Me. :roll:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G4gkDc5Dqo

I was talking about stuff such as that.
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Velvet_Darkness
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:17 pm 
 

NexusofThecrisis wrote:
Anyone heard of this band? They are certainly one of the most interesting bands I've come across in awhile. Thoughts? Reccomendations?

The amount of Dir en grey hatred on this board is just wow. At any rate they are pretty interesting though I prefer their older more experimental stuff like Kisou though. I can't really give you a direction to start in since I don't know exactly what you're looking for. I'd have to say listen to their newer stuff (VULGAR, Withering to Death, The Marrow of a Bone, Uroboros). Just be mindful that their older albums (GAUZE, MACABRE, Kisou) are more or less completely different. They are a really good band and have a lot of variety to them so I'm sure you'll come across something that you like. :)

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Pfuntner
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:53 pm 
 

thomash wrote:
Pfuntner wrote:
Their singer sounded like he would kill a man to kiss Mike Patton's shoes.

That's not necessarily a bad thing; Patton's a fantastic vocalist, even if he does have odd taste. Their singer is too bad to have any influences as good as Mike Patton.


I'm actually a huge Mike Patton fan. It's just that I dislike it when singers try to cop his style without understanding the thing that makes Mike Patton great, which is his range and dynamics. Guys like the singer of Dir En Grey, and Jonathan Davis are just bad Mike Patton wannabes.
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GrtUnclean
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:12 am 
 

I'll be the first to admit that I hate Dir en Grey, I'll also be the first to admit I like Visual-kei. I really dont understand the hatred of Visual-Kei, sure they wear ridiculous outfits and wear makeup, but theres some other music scene that does the same thing that I can't put my finger on right now. Oh yea thats right, Black Metal.

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The_Beast_in_Black
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:23 am 
 

GrtUnclean wrote:
I'll be the first to admit that I hate Dir en Grey, I'll also be the first to admit I like Visual-kei. I really dont understand the hatred of Visual-Kei, sure they wear ridiculous outfits and wear makeup, but theres some other music scene that does the same thing that I can't put my finger on right now. Oh yea thats right, Black Metal.


Black metal imagery is at least kind of cool. Dressing like you want to put Boy George to shame isn't.
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teruist
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:44 am 
 

The_Beast_in_Black wrote:
Black metal imagery is at least kind of cool.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


no, its not. it truly, honestly is not.

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The_Beast_in_Black
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:11 am 
 

What, you don't think there's some appeal to the old Darkthrone covers? Or the pictures of Dead as an undead thrasher?
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redeemerofchaos
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:10 am 
 

Oh my, people on this site actually listen to that gay shit?

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DisembowelMe
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:50 pm 
 

The music isn't as bad as I thought, but fuck, they try too hard. And the worst part is that people actually buy it.


They would rock my world if I were still 14 though.

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Balaam_Abaddon
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:58 pm 
 

I listened to them once, the music videos were kind of interesting, but I never did enjoy them really.

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nr655321
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:22 am 
 

It's quite baffling to see how some of you guys follow keep on repeating the same old stereotypes about this band. If there's one thing that ought to be kept in mind about DEG, is that they do not belong to any musical style in particular. Throughout their career they have tried so many musical styles and approaches that it is simply unfair to say they're, say, a mallcore band or something. To illustrate what i am talking about i'd suggest to check the following songs:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COgdR91yO3Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXA967RBM6s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ8ERDE6SYk

I am not saying you have to dig it but, for fuck's sake, give them some credit.

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Catachthonian
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:33 am 
 

nr655321 wrote:
Throughout their career they have tried so many musical styles and approaches...

...but failed miserably every time.
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The_Beast_in_Black
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:43 am 
 

Maybe they're not a mallcore band, but they still suck.
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They aren't mallcore, they're just bad all around, and I don't have to respect a band I cannot even enjoy in the slightest.
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