Why does it matter what reason he has to want to listen to that kind of music? I'm sure lots of people who listen to black metal with extremely anti-Christian lyrics have a loathing for Christians. Where is your criticism for that?

@Viral:
You're right, but keep in mind that not everyone in the Middle East is a muslim (in Syria for example, over 10% of the population are christian).
I don't mean to be a nitpicker over the exact numbers, and as you said it's a stereotype ... but a false one nonetheless.

It matters because metal should be about music, not an actual hatred of and prejudice towards your fellow man. Didn't we go through this with death metal weirdos who couldn't draw the line between fantasy (ie the lyrical content) and the reality where we don't go around murdering and maiming for fun?

Do you have something against anti-Christian music, then?

I think any caucasian western world band with anti-christian lyrics could just as easily write anti-islam lyrics.

Why the majority doesn't do it? I think it's fear. It's easier to stand up to a bunch of bearded old men, singing elderly ladies and burning their churches.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I hear you and cry with you sensitive brother of love. I hate all those deathblackmetalmonsters who like totally hate and kill and stuff, for fun.

EditPs. You MUST check out WEAPON(can). They have anti-muslim lirics and are killer.

Bollocks! Metal only being about the music implies singing about it aswell... "Yeah, I rock so hard" or something? Leave that to glam and rap please.


Hatred is a very, VERY important element of metal...

Freedom of speech is one thing but I also always encourage freedom of thought and especially freedom of emotions!. Hatred is a basic human emotion and therefor very true from a subjective point of view. and isn't sharing your emotions through music one of the highest forms of art? yes it is....

You preach that we should not hate, and yet I see this.

Some Pakistani bands are known to be anti-islam. Out of them, only Corpsepyre is on the metal-archives.

http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=11585

Nobody really cares about what you have to say, especially if you can't think of any bands to suggest.

OP could also try Cunt Butcher, a grind band from Australia. They're not really metal, but they've certainly got anti-Muslim lyrics.

Hmm, it seems we have a few people firmly grasping the wrong end of the stick here. If anyone's going to laugh at me for suggesting metal should be about the music and not bigotry they've clearly got problems. Anyway, I was thinking of this sort of thing here:

Listen to Ayat. Extremely raw black metal with mysoginistic and anti-Islam lyrics. More bands should take a militant stance against the growing threat of Islam instead of beating the rotting, helpless corpse of Christianity.

Seconded, Impiety are awesome. One of their old members was in the band Dusk (Pak) and they had some anti muslim sentiments in their early work.

EDIT: Impiety are more anti-Jew, if I remember correctly but some of their lyrics hint at a hatred of Islam.

This isn't really racism or hate speeches though.

I somehow doubt that they are practicing Christians. hahaha It might be more accurate to say of northern European non-Jewish decent.

I don't see why Islam should be immune to metal's anti-religious sentiment. Strikes me as painfully PC.

I hate Islam, I hate Christianity, I hate Judaism. In fact, the only major religion I don't have much beef with is Buddhism. That's not to say I have a problem with Arabs and Jews.

I agree. In the last five years a lot of anti-Islam bands have appeared and I expect more to come.

If an anti-Islam band does a concept album that parodies Muhammad's life, it would be awesome!

The Monolith Deathcult, their first album "The Apotheosis" has at least two songs that are anti-islam.

Avstand has several songs based on Anti-Islam.
Note, the song Muhammed.

Actually, by opposing Islam, metal is opposing bigotry. And if you think music and message are mutually exclusive, you've clearly got problems.

to be honest i haven't paid attention to must of those bands but what is their motivation? to erase islam along with other religion, the hatred towards terrorism or just a right-wiged hate to everything that is not christian

which was the first anti-Islam band?

its not that anyone's laughing because of that, but because you are suggesting limitations or barriers on the topicsjust about everythingthey're christians?most????

i meant winged, sorry

Somehow I dont think thats what he was questioning...(Large amount of sarcasm on that sentence)

still...

Not a serious band, but Stormtroopers of Death are pretty anti muslim/middle east.

There are actually many tribes of skinheads, only one, the so-called "boneheads" of which are necessarily racist.

Exactly! Maybe it's a chance for new style of metal? hmm....

They're already doing that in Iraq and Afghanistan...or so they claim.

"87"? Heil Gitler?

I remember seeing an "Anti-Islam" Taake shirt. One of the Urgehal guys was wearing one such shirt (we were sharing a backstage room for this festival gig).

Which I imagine must make you incredibly irate and wish for some beheadings in the name of Allah.

Why do you purposely try to piss me off given our last thread? I also recall you not responding to my PM which I sent after that certain thread about Dubai which got temporarily derailed. So what's up? Don't have anything in your arsenal except your little cracks about where I come from?

Aren't you a Muslim? You certainly give off that beligerant extremist impression.

How the hell do I give off that impression? I'm sorry if people who are opposed to Israeli and American imperialism come off to you as Muslim.

It's a simple yes/no question, no need to say anything else.

I'll respond however I please. And to answer your question, it would be an already obvious no.

Then disregard the comment that pissed you off.

I don't see why you would purposely want to offend someone if they did follow a certain religion. You don't have to like what they believe in, but to be a disrespectful douche for no reason is uncalled for.

And I don't see why you make such a fuss out of everytime time someone makes a joke at Islam. Did I acted like a sensitive, butthurt fag when you insulted my country in the Dubai thread? Or everytime someone wants to call me a spic or a coke dealer, for that matter? Really, if you aren't even a Muslim then stop that urge of coming like The Hero of the Middle-East to silence and correct the thoughts of others about it (which, in this forum, are mainly negative, not only myself, and others even worse than me; at least I don't have anything against Arabs as a race).

So because I and others have wrongfully insulted you in the past, that means you should do the same? And I'm not trying to act like any hero. You made an unnecessary slur at me which was unprovoked to begin with. You go looking for fights, then expect to fight. Don't get so defensive just because I called you out on your stupid initial comment.