Encyclopaedia Metallum: The Metal Archives

Message board

* FAQ    * Register   * Login 



This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.
Author Message Previous topic | Next topic
Buried_Death
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:12 am
Posts: 1510
Location: United Kingdom
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:34 am 
 

I want to make a studio with the sum amount of £5,000 the studio must have be capable of doing the following –

• Recording a band
• Composing for film and television
• Mastering stereo recordings

The equipment i need:

• A mixer
• A pair of monitors
• A soundcard
• Enough microphones to track a band live
• A computer system and software.

If anyone has any ideas on what i should get and why i should get it, then it would be a great help.

Top
 Profile  
Bezerko
Vladimir Poopin

Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:50 am
Posts: 4370
Location: Venestraya
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:55 am 
 

I'm no expert on the manner (ask rexxz for that) but 5000 pounds? You're going to have to be buying pretty cheap equipment to do all that for 5000 pounds...

Top
 Profile  
MushroomStamp
Metal newbie

Joined: Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:07 pm
Posts: 395
Location: Helsinki, Finland
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:22 am 
 

What about investments on the room itself? Sound insulation, getting rid of unwanted echo/reverb?
_________________
freedom, metal & might

Top
 Profile  
Masked_Jackal
Metalhead

Joined: Sat May 12, 2007 9:06 am
Posts: 513
Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:41 am 
 

5,000 can probably get you some alright equipment but definitely not enough to record an entire band as well as a proper mixing/mastering setup along with software and a decent set of monitors.

Just setting up a good, DAW for mixing will probably run you a couple thousand if you pay for everything (could probably get away with pirating all the software).

MushroomStamp wrote:
What about investments on the room itself? Sound insulation, getting rid of unwanted echo/reverb?
This, too.

Top
 Profile  
juicebitch
Juice Bitch

Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:57 am
Posts: 1523
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:49 am 
 

For microphones I would definitely go for SM57's, they are versatile and produce a very clear sound. Can be used for guitars, vocals and drums (although I would personally use an AKG on the bass drum).

Here's a link.

http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/ ... LC_content

They cost under 100 quid so they should fit in nicely with your budget.
_________________
HALBERD - death/doom featuring Metal Archives members!
CD out now - order details here: viewtopic.php?p=2527154#p2527154

Full album for streaming/download: http://halberddoom.bandcamp.com/releases
https://www.facebook.com/HalberdDoom

Top
 Profile  
Buried_Death
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:12 am
Posts: 1510
Location: United Kingdom
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:25 pm 
 

I know you can't do much with £5,000 but it can be done this is what i've got so far,

Mixing desk -

Mackie 1604 VLZ3 Series Compact Mixer: £629.99

Computer - RAIN Audio “Solstice”. Inc 19” widescreen monitor. £1,079.25

Soundcard - Digidesign 003 Rack Factory FireWire-Based Pro Tools LE Audio/MIDI Workstation: £725.22

Monitors - the Dynaudio BM 5A 2-Way Active Nearfield Monitor (Pair): £654.76

Microphones -

Shure SM57 Vocal / Instrument Microphone: £78.29

AKG D 112 Large-Diaphragm Dynamic Microphone: £103.73

AKG C 451 B Small-Diaphragm Microphone: £225.10

AKG Solid Tube Vacuum Tube Large-Diaphragm Microphone: £369.99

Thats what i'm intrested in so fair any tips or help or why i should get other stuff.

Top
 Profile  
Masked_Jackal
Metalhead

Joined: Sat May 12, 2007 9:06 am
Posts: 513
Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:14 pm 
 

Is a mixer completely necessary for you? Is using ProTools also a necessity?

Knocking off both of those (using alternatives in the case of software) can save you a bit of cash and you won't be confined to using Digidesign gear if you ever want to get a better interface...

Do you have a link for that computer?

Top
 Profile  
Buried_Death
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:12 am
Posts: 1510
Location: United Kingdom
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:38 pm 
 

Masked_Jackal wrote:
Is a mixer completely necessary for you? Is using ProTools also a necessity?

Knocking off both of those (using alternatives in the case of software) can save you a bit of cash and you won't be confined to using Digidesign gear if you ever want to get a better interface...

Do you have a link for that computer?


I need some sort of music software as i'm planning on using plug in's and i find pro tools to be better then cubase.
And i need a mixing desk to mix down my work and record as well.

This is the link for the computer -
http://rainrecording.co.uk/products/solstice

Top
 Profile  
korgull
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:53 am
Posts: 930
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:59 pm 
 

You might want to put aside £100 or so for a headphone mixer/amp if you plan to have more than one or two people at a time monitoring through headphones.

Top
 Profile  
mattp
Metalhead

Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:57 pm
Posts: 2437
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:27 am 
 

Buried_Death wrote:
Thats what i'm intrested in so fair any tips or help or why i should get other stuff.


I'd build my own computer instead of buying a premade. you'll save a lot of money and get the same quality components. I put together my desktop for around $800 including a 22" LCD monitor, and its a quad core 2.4GHz with 4GB of RAM and two 320GB hard drives.

Additionally, I'd recommend the Audix D6 over the AKG D112. The D6 sounds much better to me.

Is there any reason you need a big mixing board? I'd rather have a Presonus Firestudio or two linked up to get 16 inputs, and mix in the box with the assistance of a Presonus Faderport. That's basically what I am running right now, except with only one Firestudio Project. Also the Presonus gear is MUCH cheaper than the Digidesign. Cubase, Sonar, and Reaper are all great alternatives to Protools.

All that frees up a lot more money, I'd invest in more microphones. Audix D2/4 for tom drums, two Shure SM81s for overheads, and a Shure SM7b for vocals. Maybe some upgraded guitar/drum equipment.
_________________
Alas, Tyranny -- Download the Monolithic demo

Top
 Profile  
Buried_Death
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:12 am
Posts: 1510
Location: United Kingdom
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:38 am 
 

mattp wrote:
Buried_Death wrote:
Thats what i'm intrested in so fair any tips or help or why i should get other stuff.


I'd build my own computer instead of buying a premade. you'll save a lot of money and get the same quality components. I put together my desktop for around $800 including a 22" LCD monitor, and its a quad core 2.4GHz with 4GB of RAM and two 320GB hard drives.

Additionally, I'd recommend the Audix D6 over the AKG D112. The D6 sounds much better to me.

Is there any reason you need a big mixing board? I'd rather have a Presonus Firestudio or two linked up to get 16 inputs, and mix in the box with the assistance of a Presonus Faderport. That's basically what I am running right now, except with only one Firestudio Project. Also the Presonus gear is MUCH cheaper than the Digidesign. Cubase, Sonar, and Reaper are all great alternatives to Protools.

All that frees up a lot more money, I'd invest in more microphones. Audix D2/4 for tom drums, two Shure SM81s for overheads, and a Shure SM7b for vocals. Maybe some upgraded guitar/drum equipment.


I was thinking about building my own computer, i don't really have much of a reason for a mixing board i'll have a look into Presonus Firestudio.
I have used Cubase not a big fan.
And i'll keep in mind about the mics thanks alot for the help.

Top
 Profile  
Parasiticus
Metal newbie

Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:30 am
Posts: 90
PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:46 am 
 

If you are planning on recording live drums I hope you are thinking about the room itself. Making the room suitable can eat up all that money in about 2 seconds.
_________________
-Parasiticus
progressive death metal solo project
Download Parasiticus_The_Wellspring_160kbps.mp3
Download Parasiticus_The Transient Nature of What We Build 192kpbs.mp3

Top
 Profile  
Buried_Death
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:12 am
Posts: 1510
Location: United Kingdom
PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:16 am 
 

Parasiticus wrote:
If you are planning on recording live drums I hope you are thinking about the room itself. Making the room suitable can eat up all that money in about 2 seconds.


The room is all done.

Top
 Profile  
Masked_Jackal
Metalhead

Joined: Sat May 12, 2007 9:06 am
Posts: 513
Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:28 am 
 

I'd really think about building your own computer as opposed to buying premade one since it usually is cheaper and you can get a better product at the end. I just put one together myself and am very happy with it :)

Do you have a drumset or any amps? Amps are probably more of a secondary thing since it's not too big of a deal for bands to carry those around with them and they usually like using their own stuff, but having at least a basic kit would be extremely helpful since a lot of drummers will usually just bring cymbals, snares, occasionally a pedal, etc...

Top
 Profile  
sk8ordie97
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:54 am
Posts: 22
Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:52 pm 
 

well for all your software i would suggest...aquiring... it off of the internet
should save you alot and then you can use the rest on hardware
EDIT:
this i show i got my software.. i use sonar 7 producer and its amazing

Top
 Profile  
mattp
Metalhead

Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:57 pm
Posts: 2437
PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:57 pm 
 

sk8ordie97 wrote:
well for all your software i would suggest...aquiring... it off of the internet
should save you alot and then you can use the rest on hardware
EDIT:
this i show i got my software.. i use sonar 7 producer and its amazing


If you are just fucking around and recording your solo project or your band, this is fine. But if you are making money off of recording other bands, you need to buy the actual software. You wouldn't like it if a band came in and ripped you off, don't do the same to the software companies.
_________________
Alas, Tyranny -- Download the Monolithic demo

Top
 Profile  
Buried_Death
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:12 am
Posts: 1510
Location: United Kingdom
PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:38 am 
 

Masked_Jackal wrote:
I'd really think about building your own computer as opposed to buying premade one since it usually is cheaper and you can get a better product at the end. I just put one together myself and am very happy with it :)

Do you have a drumset or any amps? Amps are probably more of a secondary thing since it's not too big of a deal for bands to carry those around with them and they usually like using their own stuff, but having at least a basic kit would be extremely helpful since a lot of drummers will usually just bring cymbals, snares, occasionally a pedal, etc...


I still don't know if i should build my own computer because that rain computer is designed for studios and software and is 100% for music only. I know making a computer would be alot cheeper and i do know how to do it but not sure if a computer i'd make would be as good for music as a computer designed just for music.

Also I have 3 Vox amp's and a cheep drumset in the studio ready.
Thanks for the help.

Top
 Profile  
mattp
Metalhead

Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:57 pm
Posts: 2437
PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:15 am 
 

You can very easily design a computer for music. My recording desktop is an Intel Q6600 2.4GHz quad core, 4GB of RAM, dual 320GB HDD, SIIG 1394a card, and a Biostar motherboard with onboard video. I could upgrade the processor and get better performance, but I haven't even went over 60% resources used with my most complex/massive arrangements. The computer cost me around $800 and that is including a 22" Acer LCD monitor.

The Rain computer is going to be basically the same thing, but put together nice and pretty for you, and probably double the cost of parts.
_________________
Alas, Tyranny -- Download the Monolithic demo

Top
 Profile  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

 
Jump to:  

Back to the Encyclopaedia Metallum


Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group