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GuntherTheUndying
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:10 pm 
 

One of the best reviews on the site: http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/J ... odIronBeer
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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 2:43 am 
 

That review is great, contrasted by one abnormally high rating. :lol:

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TheLiberation
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 6:03 pm 
 

I absolutely love the description of the guitar sound. This is the kind of thing that can really crack me up. :lol:
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dystopia4
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 11:59 pm 
 

Haha, that BloodIronBeer guy's butthurt rant on his profile against Zodi because he rejected a few of his reviews is quite funny.
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caspian
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 9:06 am 
 

Really liked the new Lulu review :thumbsup:
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 9:31 am 
 

caspian wrote:
Really liked the new Lulu review :thumbsup:


I enjoyed reading that review about 100 times better than listening to the album. That captured the essence of the collaboration... and still supplied enough musical description. Good work!
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 4:33 pm 
 

While reviews of ultra-unpopular albums tend to be really boring and annoying, Lulu really is a source of some hilarious reading.
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Empyreal
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 5:34 pm 
 

Most reviews of Lulu are so hilariously off base and extreme, without really even trying to listen to it much. It's not good, but I like it, and it's interesting enough to analyze beyond the "lol James says he's a table" kind of nonsense...it's its own thing, which is more than can be said for a vast majority of bands. That new review really is very good.
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lord_ghengis
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 7:18 pm 
 

I actually really like your review of it Empy, possibly just because it reflects my views on it pretty perfectly, but still. Surely some people have to appreciate the garage band grooviness somewhat, no doubt they run it into the ground with mountains of repetition, but the riffs have more attitude than anything Metallica has written since 1986.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 8:59 pm 
 

Thanks man, I think the repetition and the weird croaky, insane old man vocals make for a really odd, singular kind of experience and atmosphere. The songs are way too long and the album is difficult to sit through in one sitting because of its length, but eh, I can dig it pretty well.
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TheLiberation
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 4:13 pm 
 

I'm sort of surprised by how moderate the first two reviews of Frequency Unknown are, after what I had seen on the forums I thought "shitstorm imminent" as soon as the release date came.
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 5:08 pm 
 

TheLiberation wrote:
I'm sort of surprised by how moderate the first two reviews of Frequency Unknown are, after what I had seen on the forums I thought "shitstorm imminent" as soon as the release date came.

I haven't reviewed it yet. That album is one of the biggest, most dishonest piles of shit I've ever heard.
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 5:10 pm 
 

I'm waiting then :lol:
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 6:00 pm 
 

Yeah, I'm reviewing it soon too, would've had it done before, but that would mean listening to it again. Just fuckin awful.
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 6:03 pm 
 

Empyreal wrote:
...but that would mean listening to it again. Just fuckin awful.

@Liberation: hence why you'll be waiting a while. I'm rarely disgusted by music, as in hating it to such a degree that I hate the creators of it. This is one of them. Frequency Unknown is a complete waste of existence.
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 6:05 pm 
 

The song "Dare" along justifies a 0%, let alone Tate's attitude and the ridiculous stunts he's pulled going up to the release. Oh and the re-recording of "I Don't Believe in Love." :puke:
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TheLiberation
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 6:11 pm 
 

Yeah so this makes me wait for the reviews even more, especially knowing you two and your writing styles :lol:
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:13 pm 
 

My reaction to the new Frequency Unknown review having a 79%:

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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:27 pm 
 

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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:31 pm 
 

Subrick wrote:
My reaction to the new Frequency Unknown review having a 79%


It's even better when you realize that same guy gave Awaken the Guardian an 80%. I know scores aren't everything, but still, in this guy's estimation, Frequency Unknown is one percent shy of Awaken the Guardian. :getout:

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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:35 am 
 

In Emp's FU review, singling out "Dare" was the best part. When I heard it for the first time and Geoff began swearing (and then the chorus hit), my jaw dropped.

The song I'm going to bully briefly is "Give It To You". Lifeless '90s alternative rock with, to me, the most overused, pompous line on the album. You know which one I'm talking about - Geoff won't stop saying it in the song.

Brace yourself, Emp! Geoff's comin' for you!

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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 1:44 am 
 

Metal_Detector wrote:
It's even better when you realize that same guy gave Awaken the Guardian an 80%. I know scores aren't everything, but still, in this guy's estimation, Frequency Unknown is one percent shy of Awaken the Guardian. :getout:


Well if you're talking about 0 and 1.00, I guess it's nearly right.

The lowest acceptable score to give Awaken the Guardian is 93%, which is only acceptable if you're as prolifically critical as UltraBoris where that cracks his top 20 out of 600 or however many he originally wrote. Anything but undying, eternal praise for Awaken the Guardian is completely wrong and a disgrace to you, your band, family, and Facebook friends list.

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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 3:55 am 
 

TheLiberation wrote:
I'm sort of surprised by how moderate the first two reviews of Frequency Unknown are, after what I had seen on the forums I thought "shitstorm imminent" as soon as the release date came.


I found the album to be pretty bad, but not quite as utterly detestable as "Q2K" or "American Soldier", and a 42% score coming from me is nowhere near an endorsement. Not to mention I didn't really pay attention to the whole drama surrounding Tate being axed from the band, so that probably played a part in my being apathetic towards the album rather than scornful.

edit: After looking over my other Queensryche reviews I took my initial score down a little to better reflect some of the comparisons I made in this one.
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 7:58 am 
 

Empyreal's review feels like a tank rolling all over the album, honestly. This is exactly what I mean by saying ultra-negative reviews which do not go for "fuck this shitty album and you're all dicks" are far more powerful and destructive.

I'm just a bit curious, why is American Soldier hated this much? It was already inconsistent as hell and some songs were artificially pop-ified, but it's nowhere near the disastrous piece of crap Dedicated to Chaos is. (Still need to listen to FU... Maybe when I'm in some sort of weird mood)
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:48 am 
 

I know I've mentioned it here before, but everytime I see oneyoudontknow's review of "Themes From William Blake's the Marriage of Heaven and Hell", I am completely astounded. Possibly my favorite review on the site. If you haven't read it yet, please do.
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 2:39 pm 
 

From Subrick's Rings of Saturn review:
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:lol: Sounds like something my grandma would say about say about death metal in general.
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 2:48 pm 
 

dystopia4 wrote:
From Subrick's Rings of Saturn review:
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but what transpires for the 35 minutes this album runs for is just one terrible, horrible, no good, very bad noise section after another.

:lol: Sounds like something my grandma would say about say about death metal in general.

Sound like a perfect description of that band to me!

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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 2:54 pm 
 

While, they do go over the top sometimes with the Super Mario sweeps, I thought the album was pretty cool. "Noise" seems to more of an insult than an apt description.
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 3:34 pm 
 

This is a comment I got on the SputnikMusic posting of my Rings of Saturn review.

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I had a hearty moment of amusement. I should also note that the person who made this comment gave the album a 4.5 out of 5.
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I can sweep pick and speed it up! Let's start a technintendeathcore band, Subrick!

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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 3:41 pm 
 

:lol:
I totally get why people don't like them. I like the first album (haven't gotten around to the second yet) but I think they'd be much better off without guitar acrobatics/wankery. Or maybe just a more toned-down version of it. Some of the more tasteful use of breakdowns in deathcore, in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 3:47 pm 
 

Hey, at least this modern tech death review is getting a better reception than the Beyond Creation review did. :P
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 3:55 pm 
 

Subrick wrote:
Hey, at least this modern tech death review is getting a better reception than the Beyond Creation review did. :P


Man, nobody shit on that after you took yours down? I'll have to fix that...
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 4:02 pm 
 

Nope. When I put my review up, the percentage went down to I think an 89%. Without my sole negative review of it, the percentage that album has 98%.

Also, the one big thing everyone harped on when my review was up was that I said I couldn't hear the bass on the record, which I genuinely could not.
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 4:10 pm 
 

Which is exactly why your review wasn't very good, because god damn the bass is the biggest problem with the album apart from the dull and inconsequential songwriting. I seriously have no idea how you can't hear it. Either your ears are legitimately damaged, you have awful speakers/headphones, or somehow don't know what a bass sounds like. It's bewildering to me.
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Man, how can you not hear the bass? The whole album is just that. You're a good musician, I can't understand either -_-

Anyway, how to write a good negative review by BH: http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/B ... astardHead

I definitely agree about how overrated this album is even if I can enjoy it, I would give it a high 60 or low 70 or so.
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 4:12 pm 
 

I have tinnitus, but it's not severe enough to the point of hindering my ability to hear. There's only been one time in my life that it got so bad that I just could not handle any sound whatsoever, and that was almost a year and a half ago. Maybe I just got a bad download of the album.
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 5:15 pm 
 

I love BastardHead's comparison - the bass on that Beyond Creation album sounds like the adults on Peanuts :lol:

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The one negative review of it on SputnikMusic compared the bass sound to a moaning woman.
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 5:29 pm 
 

Zodijackyl wrote:
Metal_Detector wrote:
It's even better when you realize that same guy gave Awaken the Guardian an 80%. I know scores aren't everything, but still, in this guy's estimation, Frequency Unknown is one percent shy of Awaken the Guardian. :getout:


Well if you're talking about 0 and 1.00, I guess it's nearly right.

The lowest acceptable score to give Awaken the Guardian is 93%, which is only acceptable if you're as prolifically critical as UltraBoris where that cracks his top 20 out of 600 or however many he originally wrote. Anything but undying, eternal praise for Awaken the Guardian is completely wrong and a disgrace to you, your band, family, and Facebook friends list.


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