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Author:  failsafeman [ Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:03 pm ]
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ForNaught wrote:
The backlog of RDTF stuff in Oven Fodder is pretty horrific at the moment-- I pity the mod(s) who end(s) up going through it all, I really do. The one-per-week-per-person rule is great in theory and all but this is still a horrible spike. I don't know whether regulating submission rate is really feasible though... Not a particularly helpful observation, but there it is.

Me, as usual. Don't worry too much about it.
Author:  Pippin_Took [ Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:53 pm ]
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Pippin_Took wrote:
Blind Guardian - Imaginations From The Other Side

Done with.

yentass wrote:
As a side note, I think we're crossing the rational threshold with this - I've seen numerous album with 13, 14 reviews; bearing the notion that a completed task usually diminishes an album's review count to these exact premises, 13 reviews seems like a perfectly valid number to me.


I'd tend to disagree. I'll start by qualifying this a little: I'm not a reviewer, have never taken the plunge and written anything for the site, but I have used the reviews section extensively for about 5 years now; it's my main source of information on new bands to check out. Despite this, I've never found it necessary to read more than 4/5 different reviews; that tends to be sufficient for me to decide whether I want to check something out. If I'm honest, I like to get a few perspectives and if they intrigue me, I'll get the album and spin it myself and then discuss it further in the forums - why spend time reading 10-15 reviews?

I don't think any cap is necessary on review number per release, since that could mean that excellent writers may not be able to contribute to an album that they really love, and can review brilliantly. However, it is important to go through the review section and cull out the bad stuff. I mean, I just did Imaginations... and of the 13 reviews there, only 5 were any good. By removing the rubbish ones, we make a space where new and better reviews could be written instead. I don't think this is going too far at all. :)
Author:  Lana [ Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:53 pm ]
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I agree with "controlling" the number of reports, but I don't think we need to decide on a specific number. If things look backlogged, just use your own judgement and hold off on posting until it gets cleared. I don't think this process should be unnecessarily complicated.

Hm, there are 24 reviews for A Matter of Life and Death. Maybe this is a case a few of us can work on together and discuss. It's certainly possible that all 24 reviews are good enough to stay, though.

As for an end to RDTF, I'm pretty much planning to close it down after the current "available" list is done, but we should continue to discuss the subject. I don't have a strong opinion either way about its lifespan.
Author:  ForNaught [ Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:28 pm ]
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failsafeman wrote:
ForNaught wrote:
The backlog of RDTF stuff in Oven Fodder is pretty horrific at the moment-- I pity the mod(s) who end(s) up going through it all, I really do. The one-per-week-per-person rule is great in theory and all but this is still a horrible spike. I don't know whether regulating submission rate is really feasible though... Not a particularly helpful observation, but there it is.

Me, as usual. Don't worry too much about it.


Alrighty!

I think I will tackle At the Gates - Slaughter of the Soul next. It looks better than you'd expect, just skimming over it, but at eighteen reviews there are probably a few weak ones in there. We'll find out soon enough...
Author:  caspian [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:24 am ]
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I'll do AJFA.
Author:  ~Guest 219268 [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:55 am ]
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I take Mayhem - Grand Declaration of War.
Author:  yentass [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:03 am ]
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Pippin_Took wrote:
I'd tend to disagree. I'll start by qualifying this a little: I'm not a reviewer, have never taken the plunge and written anything for the site, but I have used the reviews section extensively for about 5 years now; it's my main source of information on new bands to check out. Despite this, I've never found it necessary to read more than 4/5 different reviews; that tends to be sufficient for me to decide whether I want to check something out. If I'm honest, I like to get a few perspectives and if they intrigue me, I'll get the album and spin it myself and then discuss it further in the forums - why spend time reading 10-15 reviews?

I don't think any cap is necessary on review number per release, since that could mean that excellent writers may not be able to contribute to an album that they really love, and can review brilliantly. However, it is important to go through the review section and cull out the bad stuff. I mean, I just did Imaginations... and of the 13 reviews there, only 5 were any good. By removing the rubbish ones, we make a space where new and better reviews could be written instead. I don't think this is going too far at all. :)


The point you have there has a bit of controversy to it, yet I mostly agree with it, however flagging a review simply on grounds of it not being different would rarely caused it deletion (I tried to pull it off several times, but they usually stay), and in any rate the RDTF itself must kinda have its jurisdiction - not because pruning through an album with, say, 10 reviews is anywhere problematic in my opinion, but if we do so we might end up being considered more of a nuisanse than a contributive force by the mods.

As far as the brilliant reviewers go - these usually get in no matter what. There's no limit of reviews per album (apart from the unwritten "25" law), and it usually happens that if a review by a profilic reviewer is pending and there are too much of them, the mods would even do a mini-RDTF for it and clean up some space for the review.
Author:  hells_unicorn [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:27 pm ]
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I'm planning on tackling Symphony X's "Paradise Lost" this week.
Author:  hells_unicorn [ Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:36 pm ]
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hells_unicorn wrote:
I'm planning on tackling Symphony X's "Paradise Lost" this week.


Finished, and apologies for the double post.
Author:  Lemmyapu [ Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:37 am ]
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I'll do Perverse Recollections of a Necromangler.
Author:  Lana [ Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:33 pm ]
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That one has been done already.
Author:  ~Guest 219268 [ Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:19 pm ]
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HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
I take Mayhem - Grand Declaration of War.

Done. I'll take St. Anger next, it's gonna be a good laugh.
Author:  yentass [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:06 pm ]
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Taking "Meshuggah - Catch 33".
Author:  yentass [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:20 pm ]
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yentass wrote:
Taking "Meshuggah - Catch 33".

Done. My first RD task with the NEGATIVE reviews being sucky.
Author:  googens [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:58 am ]
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I'll do Filosofem
Author:  Catachthonian [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:32 am ]
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I'll take "Haunting The Chapel".
Author:  caspian [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:20 pm ]
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ajfa is done.
Author:  Catachthonian [ Wed Sep 08, 2010 1:57 am ]
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Catachthonian wrote:
I'll take "Haunting The Chapel".

Done.

Next on the list is Blind Guardian's "Nightfall In Middle Earth".
Author:  KerberosOfHades [ Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:57 am ]
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Done with Annihilation of the Wicked, I'll now move on to Dopethrone.
Author:  hells_unicorn [ Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:00 pm ]
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I'll take Emperor's "In The Nightside Eclipse" next, been contemplating reviewing this one for a while and I think I might benefit from reading all of those reviews again just to give myself an idea on how to maintain a unique perspective on it.
Author:  OlioTheSmall [ Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:04 am ]
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Give me Hail of Bullets - Of Frost and War. A good album and I'd be glad to help out with this.
Author:  hells_unicorn [ Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:44 am ]
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hells_unicorn wrote:
I'll take Emperor's "In The Nightside Eclipse" next, been contemplating reviewing this one for a while and I think I might benefit from reading all of those reviews again just to give myself an idea on how to maintain a unique perspective on it.


Finished.
Author:  googens [ Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:38 pm ]
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googens wrote:
I'll do Filosofem


Done!
Author:  OlioTheSmall [ Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:33 am ]
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OlioTheSmall wrote:
Give me Hail of Bullets - Of Frost and War. A good album and I'd be glad to help out with this.

Finished with this. I'll take on another release next week.
Author:  ~Guest 41299 [ Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:23 pm ]
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I can do Iron Maiden's Piece of mind
Author:  Catachthonian [ Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:05 am ]
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Catachthonian wrote:
Next on the list is Blind Guardian's "Nightfall In Middle Earth".

Report submitted.

I'll take Summoning's "Let Mortal Heroes Sing Your Fame" next.
Author:  ~Guest 219268 [ Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:14 am ]
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HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
I'll take St. Anger next, it's gonna be a good laugh.

Done, except it was all but a good laugh. Anyway, Mastodon - Crack The Skye next.
Author:  OnwardToGolgotha [ Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:12 pm ]
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I'll take Heartwork.
Author:  DevilsWhorehouse [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:24 pm ]
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Someone with more time on their hands than I should look at Blind Guardian - Somewhere Far Beyond.
Author:  OnwardToGolgotha [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:07 pm ]
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OnwardToGolgotha wrote:
I'll take Heartwork.

Done. If I can claim one for next week, I'll do Origin's Antithesis.
Author:  OlioTheSmall [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:58 am ]
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I'll take Gorgoroth's Under the Sign of Hell. Could take me anywhere from a night to 2 weeks to get through the reviews, so bear with me.
Author:  ForNaught [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:45 pm ]
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I just submitted my take on Slaughter of the Soul. Truthfully, it's not the best job I could have done, aas I've been so busy lately. Indeed, I very nearly just gave up for this reason!
Author:  OzzyApu [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:14 pm ]
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OlioTheSmall wrote:
I'll take Gorgoroth's Under the Sign of Hell. Could take me anywhere from a night to 2 weeks to get through the reviews, so bear with me.

Agreed; mine could have you rotfl for a good week if you aren't prepared.

Anyway, I'll take Lacuna Coil's Karmacode. Should be done in a couple of days.
Author:  Lana [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:37 pm ]
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It's getting rather backed up in there. I think posting further reports should wait until the current ones are cleared.

I've been toying with the idea of having all reports posted here instead, and added to some central list separate from Oven Fodder so they can be worked on at a more comfortable pace by the mods.
Author:  KerberosOfHades [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:58 pm ]
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Went to start Dopethrone and found 5 reviews for the album had been taken down, and all the rest seem fine, so I'll move on to Sagas by Equilibrium.
Author:  KerberosOfHades [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:56 pm ]
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Been through the reviews for Sagas and they all look passable, a couple of not-so-hot ones but nothing that needs getting rid of I think.

So now I'll do Century Child by Nightwish.
Author:  googens [ Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:28 pm ]
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With an album titled Thornography you know there are lots of shitty reviews for it!!
Author:  Catachthonian [ Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:15 am ]
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Catachthonian wrote:
I'll take Summoning's "Let Mortal Heroes Sing Your Fame" next.

Done, finally.

Next on the list is Blind Guardian's "A Night At The Opera".
Author:  OlioTheSmall [ Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:21 am ]
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OlioTheSmall wrote:
I'll take Gorgoroth's Under the Sign of Hell. Could take me anywhere from a night to 2 weeks to get through the reviews, so bear with me.

Ugh, that took longer than I was expecting. Sorry, been preoccupied.

I'll have Death's Human next.
Author:  Lana [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:05 am ]
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I believe this has run its course, and I'm far too busy to maintain it anymore. Thanks to everyone who contributed.
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