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shiduba
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:54 am 
 

I saw that thread of highest rated albums, and it thought it would be fun to see which are the lowest rated instead. 10 or more reviews would be nice.

Here are some of my suggestions, can you find worse?

Cryptopsy: The Unspoken King (13%, 22 reviews)
Waking the Cadaver: Perverse Recollections of a Necromangler (10%, 13 reviews)

yeah those albums really suck. Are there any worse?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:58 am 
 

Queensryche - American Soldier - 16%, 10 reviews (might be the lowest non-core album)

Also, wasn't there some famous Italian folk or power metal band that did a metalcore-influenced album that really bombed with the reviewers here?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:24 am 
 

EntilZha wrote:
Also, wasn't there some famous Italian folk or power metal band that did a metalcore-influenced album that really bombed with the reviewers here?


That was Elvenking, The Scythe has an average of 29% from 8 reviews. Not actually that low compared to what has been mentioned so far.

I guess Killswitch Engage's cover of Holy Diver should be mentioned, it has an average of 27% from 14 reviews, a pretty low score.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:26 am 
 

I think it would be a more interesting question if one sticks to metal albums only, excluding all metalcore and related stuff.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:56 am 
 

Hey, when did we get 666 Satanic Army 666 off the site, good riddance, not metal.

Both of Rainfall's releases are pretty low, 27% from 12, 30% from 11.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:41 am 
 

KerberosOfHades wrote:
I guess Killswitch Engage's cover of Holy Diver should be mentioned, it has an average of 27% from 14 reviews, a pretty low score.


Not an album but certainly a (formerly?) metal band, Keep of Kalessin's The Dragontower has 9 reviews, average 8%.
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harbringer
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:33 am 
 

The Unspoken King - 22 reviews, 13%. That's an average of a little over 1/2%.

edit- dont know how I missed that in the OP.. sorry
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Cold Lake has only 4 reviews, but avg 5%
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harbringer wrote:
The Unspoken King - 22 reviews, 13%. That's an average of a little over 1/2%.

What?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:43 am 
 

EntilZha wrote:
harbringer wrote:
The Unspoken King - 22 reviews, 13%. That's an average of a little over 1/2%.

What?


Um.. I'm hella confused that's what. I don't know why I tried to average the average. Hehehe..

Anyways the only other one I could think of was St Anger, which isn't all that low it turns out.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:43 am 
 

Six Feet Under's Graveyard Classics II has 15 reviews with an average of 21%.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 4:12 am 
 

Apocalypse - Upon the Crimson Rivers - 11 reviews, average 5%
Keep of Kalessin - The Dragontower - 9 reviews, average 8%

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Zoldaten_ov_Zatan
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 4:42 am 
 

The_Poltergeist wrote:
Apocalypse - Upon the Crimson Rivers - 11 reviews, average 5%
Keep of Kalessin - The Dragontower - 9 reviews, average 8%


Those aren't exactly albums, now.
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KerberosOfHades wrote:
EntilZha wrote:
Also, wasn't there some famous Italian folk or power metal band that did a metalcore-influenced album that really bombed with the reviewers here?


That was Elvenking, The Scythe has an average of 29% from 8 reviews. Not actually that low compared to what has been mentioned so far.


My guess was he was talking about Eternal Empire by Human Fortress. 6 reviews, 28%.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:38 am 
 

Apocalypse anyone?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:38 am 
 

The Burning Red (with 31% from 6 reviews) and Supercharger (with 15% from 4 reviews) by Machine Head are heading in that direction. Especially after hells_unicorn stamped them both with the royal seal of gayness.
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Success Will Write Apocalypse Across the Sky (SWAATS) have one album with reviews, and that one has an average of 0%. Completely accurate, I might add; they shouldn't even be on here.

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Malacoda wrote:
Success Will Write Apocalypse Across the Sky (SWAATS) have one album with reviews, and that one has an average of 0%. Completely accurate, I might add; they shouldn't even be on here.


Strange how their EP has the same number of reviews, yet a 91% average.
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JackRog1104 wrote:
Malacoda wrote:
Success Will Write Apocalypse Across the Sky (SWAATS) have one album with reviews, and that one has an average of 0%. Completely accurate, I might add; they shouldn't even be on here.


Strange how their EP has the same number of reviews, yet a 91% average.


I wonder which was marketed more...
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Malacoda wrote:
Success Will Write Apocalypse Across the Sky (SWAATS) have one album with reviews, and that one has an average of 0%. Completely accurate, I might add; they shouldn't even be on here.


Ah, my poor little guilty pleasure album, everyone else hates it...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:02 pm 
 

I can answer this. Restricting our survey to full-length albums with 10+ reviews, by bands that don't have "groove" or "core" in their genre labels, there are only 7 with averages below 50.

1. Queensrÿche · American Soldier (10 reviews, average 15.9)
2. In Flames · Soundtrack to Your Escape (15, 37.933)
3. Slayer (USA) · God Hates Us All (18, 43.722)
4. Metallica · St. Anger (22, 43.409)
5. Burzum · Dauði Baldrs (13, 45.077)
6. In Flames · Reroute to Remain (15, 49)
7. Megadeth · Risk (13, 49.308)

There are your goats. No, wait, in metal goats are good. Your bunnies?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:05 pm 
 

I'll ask the obvious. What happens when you remove the groove and -core filters?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:22 pm 
 

Here's the list without the genre filter (and including the genres):

#, Album, Reviews, Average, Genre
1, Waking the Cadaver - Perverse Recollections of a Necromangler, 10, 7.6, Brutal Deathcore
2, Hellyeah - Hellyeah, 11, 10.636, Groove Metal
3, Cryptopsy - The Unspoken King, 22, 12.864, Technical Death Metal/Deathcore
4, Queensrÿche - American Soldier, 10, 15.9, Heavy/Power/Progressive Metal
5, Six Feet Under (USA) - Graveyard Classics II, 15, 21.333, Death/Groove Metal/Death 'N' Roll
6, Sepultura - Roots, 14, 34.929, Groove/Hardcore/Death/Thrash Metal
7, Winds of Plague - Decimate the Weak, 17, 36.176, Symphonic Deathcore/Blackened Death Metal
8, In Flames - Soundtrack to Your Escape, 15, 37.933, Alternative Rock/Metal/Melodic Death/Gothenburg
9, Annihilator - Metal, 10, 40.6, Technical Speed/Thrash/Groove Metal
10, Six Feet Under (USA) - Bringer of Blood, 12, 41.333, Death/Groove Metal/Death 'N' Roll
11, Metallica - St. Anger, 22, 43.409, Modern Rock/Metal/Thrash Metal
12, Slayer (USA) - God Hates Us All, 18, 43.722, Thrash Metal
13, Trivium - The Crusade, 20, 44.95, Thrash/Heavy Metal/Metalcore
14, Burzum - Dauði Baldrs, 13, 45.077, Black Metal/Ambient
15, Annihilator - All for You, 11, 47.636, Technical Speed/Thrash/Groove Metal
16, Brain Drill - Apocalyptic Feasting, 13, 48.769, Technical Death Metal/Grindcore
17, Machine Head (USA) - Burn My Eyes, 11, 48.818, Post-Thrash/Groove Metal
18, In Flames - Reroute to Remain, 15, 49, Alternative Rock/Metal/Melodic Death/Gothenburg
19, Megadeth - Risk, 13, 49.308, Thrash Metal/Heavy Metal

This is as of my last data-update a couple weeks ago, so there may be some small differences between this and the site today...

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:04 pm 
 

harbringer wrote:
EntilZha wrote:
harbringer wrote:
The Unspoken King - 22 reviews, 13%. That's an average of a little over 1/2%.

What?


Um.. I'm hella confused that's what. I don't know why I tried to average the average. Hehehe..


What you did, harbringer, was find the mean rating given to the album if its 13 score was hypothetically determined by adding the sum of its ratings. This is the most useless information anyone could ever ask for. :)

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The_CrY
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:27 pm 
 

Such a pity that great albums like Queensrÿche's American Soldier and Megadeth's "Risk" are rated so low...

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The_CrY wrote:
Such a pity that great albums like Queensrÿche's American Soldier and Megadeth's "Risk" are rated so low...


See, your review still doesn't show me why exactly you think American Soldier is good. I just don't get it.
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sisters_of_merciless wrote:
Here's the list without the genre filter (and including the genres):

How about if you lower the 10 review limit to, say, 5?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:50 am 
 

Here are the ones with 5-9 reviews and <40 average.

Album, Reviews, Average, Genre
Exodus - Let There Be Blood, 6, 11.833, Thrash Metal
Mortician (USA) - Re-Animated Dead Flesh, 6, 15.833, Death/Grind
Elvenking - The Scythe, 6, 22, Melodic Power/Folk Metal/Death
Ancient (Nor) - Mad Grandiose Bloodfiends, 5, 25.6, Melodic Black Metal
Underoath - Define the Great Line, 6, 28.833, Groove/Metal/Deathcore/Alternative/Metalcore
Machine Head (USA) - The Burning Red, 6, 31, Post-Thrash/Groove Metal
Damageplan - New Found Power, 8, 34.625, Groove/Metalcore
The Great Kat - Beethoven on Speed, 5, 36, Speed/Thrash Metal/Shred
Bathory - Octagon, 8, 36.625, Viking/Thrash Metal/Black Metal
All That Remains - Overcome, 5, 39.2, Metalcore/Melodic Death Metal

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Let There be Blood is the only review I have given for 0%. :lol:
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sisters_of_merciless wrote:
Ancient (Nor) - Mad Grandiose Bloodfiends, 5, 25.6, Melodic Black Metal


Really? Ancient is one of the most inoffensive bands I've ever heard. They're certainly not GOOD but they've never done anything interesting enough to warrant that kind of hatred.
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It seems that people are far more willing to support a hated album than knock down a loved one. With the best album lists there were heaps of albums (In the hundreds I assume) with ratings over 90 after 5+ reviews, but only one album with more than 5 reviews with a score under 10. I am surprised and intrigued by this stat. I love these things, thanks S_o_M.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:35 pm 
 

So, all those complaints about there being too much negativity in reviews WAS total bull. Called it!
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Zoldaten_ov_Zatan wrote:
JackRog1104 wrote:
Malacoda wrote:
Success Will Write Apocalypse Across the Sky (SWAATS) have one album with reviews, and that one has an average of 0%. Completely accurate, I might add; they shouldn't even be on here.

Strange how their EP has the same number of reviews, yet a 91% average.

I wonder which was marketed more...

I had never heard about this band before reading this thread, and naturally, after reading the two reviews, I was way too curious to not download it right away. Both reviews, on top of having the same 0% score, make the exact same very doubtful accusations: A) it is ridiculously technical, yet the musicians are sloppy, inconsistent and even the drummer plays "offkey"... and B) it is so forcefully brutal and non-stop lightning-fast in your face ("without the relief of a breakdown") that it becomes inoffensive... Rrrright. Sounds likely and convincing, guys!

Well, I've just listened to the album only once, but I can state without a doubt that both reviewers either didn't actually give the album a listen before reviewing it, are intellectually dishonest, or plain deaf. Not only is it actually quite good, but it has nothing they claim it to have too much of: it's not particularly brutal by death metal standards (let alone brutal death metal's), it's certainly not grind whatsoever, it's not covered in samples (it only has a few here and there), it has a reasonable tempo that varies quite a lot from song to song and within each song, and it's not oustandingly technical, either! Unless the age old vibrato on a high note in the middle of a regular riff gimmick qualifies as über technical, now? Ridiculous!

lord_ghengis wrote:
Ah, my poor little guilty pleasure album, everyone else hates it...
Not any longer! Judging from this first listen, I like it too! :beer:
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LegendMaker wrote:
lord_ghengis wrote:
Ah, my poor little guilty pleasure album, everyone else hates it...
Not any longer! Judging from this first listen, I like it too! :beer:


Ha, I actually think that it is an undeniably shitty album built out of every element of death metal that I hate, but I get enjoyment out of it for some reason.
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lord_ghengis wrote:
LegendMaker wrote:
lord_ghengis wrote:
Ah, my poor little guilty pleasure album, everyone else hates it...
Not any longer! Judging from this first listen, I like it too! :beer:


Ha, I actually think that it is an undeniably shitty album built out of every element of death metal that I hate, but I get enjoyment out of it for some reason.

Wow, you really must feel guilty about liking this album if you feel compelled to justify yourself even to the one guy on Earth (or this site at least) who tells you he likes it too! :lol:
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:59 am 
 

Hey, I've got MikeyC on my side too... but then again, he likes pretty much everything anyone has ever written.
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lord_ghengis wrote:
Malacoda wrote:
Success Will Write Apocalypse Across the Sky (SWAATS) have one album with reviews, and that one has an average of 0%. Completely accurate, I might add; they shouldn't even be on here.


Ah, my poor little guilty pleasure album, everyone else hates it...


Haha, I have this album on CD... not by choice. I got it in the Nuclear Blast grab bag from CMDistro. My thoughts on it were that, yeah, it was kind of bad, but it did have a couple of redeeming qualities, such as the synth ending to the album, which was the best song on the album (I hope I am remembering correctly). Also, if I am looking for something mindlessly fast and intense... it might serve that purpose.

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remember when 5 finger death punch was on MA?

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The_CrY wrote:
Such a pity that great albums like Queensrÿche's American Soldier and Megadeth's "Risk" are rated so low...

You're about 6 weeks late for April Fool's Day, there, son.
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 9:54 am 
 

So far all I could find was

Massacre - Promise [Average rating for 3 reviews is 27%]

That is exactly what happens when you change your sound from Death to...WTF Metal?

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