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Antioch
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:37 am 
 

Mantissa
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Mantissa/5613
Their sound's described as Psychedelic Heavy Metal. However, there's no psychedelia and hardly any metal.
Suggestion 1: Discard
Suggestion 2: Genre: Hard Rock/Heavy Metal, Grunge

http://killingtime-mantissa.bandcamp.com
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Mantissa
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:30 pm 
 

EpicDismemberment wrote:
Hi,
Necrosic which was accepted recently has no anything came out yet. It is just streaming stuffs.

https://nuclearwarnowproductions.bandca ... decimation

I noticed that, but it seemed like the physical release was out already. Looks like it's not. Gone.
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Deleted Wolfshonor. Accepted based on a fake tape inlay scan complete with fake photograph. No valid distribution proven.
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Antioch
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:32 am 
 

Pending duplicates:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Eldamar/3540407768
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Eldamar/3540407774

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Persona/3540406822
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Persona/3540406261
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Dupes gone.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:44 pm 
 

Antioch wrote:
Mantissa
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Mantissa/5613
Their sound's described as Psychedelic Heavy Metal. However, there's no psychedelia and hardly any metal.
Suggestion 1: Discard
Suggestion 2: Genre: Hard Rock/Heavy Metal, Grunge

http://killingtime-mantissa.bandcamp.com
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Mantissa

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:36 pm 
 

theunrelentingattack wrote:
Dupes gone.

Azmodes wrote:
Deleted.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:09 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Retroact/76338

Check their myspace page. Some kind of thrash metal-influenced nu-metal, and although the tracks they have uploaded are not from their CD, I have a lot of trouble believing that they played something more thrash-oriented in 2003.
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Яemoved.
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Azmodes wrote:
Яemoved.


Thanks. A lot of these "thrashcore" entries are really dubious.
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Antioch
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:54 pm 
 

Duplicates:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Las ... 3540407848
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Las ... 3540388018
of
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Las ... 3540406638
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:13 pm 
 

Antioch wrote:

Done.
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Antioch
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:15 pm 
 

OpsiusCato wrote:
Done.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:18 pm 
 

Let's keep the bands in here to listed stuff only, as per the thread title. Multiple subs in the queue can simply be reported (though we usually notice anyway).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:32 pm 
 

Consider it done.
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Dr_Keloid
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:15 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/CPR/3876

Really metal enough for the Archives or significant enough a side project?

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PDS
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:40 pm 
 

Dr_Keloid wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/CPR/3876

Really metal enough for the Archives or significant enough a side project?


Notes say significant enough side project. Members of Holy Mother and TSO
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:32 pm 
 

PDS wrote:
Notes say significant enough side project. Members of Holy Mother and TSO

Oh alright then.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 2:27 am 
 

Dr_Keloid wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/CPR/3876


It's not related, but I think that's the first time I've ever seen a band added by an "unknown user".
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Azmodes
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Deleted Morgion from Virginia, United States (pre-Malintent). No proven releases.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:44 pm 
 

Who the hell is Holy Mother? And TSO isn't even metal most of the time. I know that what's considered significant is kind of arbitrary, but that one seems very far-fetched.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:49 am 
 

Yeah, I think that one should be tossed...

Deleted Lux Belle. No releases.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:14 pm 
 

Alright, nuked CPR and also the following non-metal side-projects found lacking:

Invictus (Hun)
Kátai Tamás
Mike Scheidt
Tactile Gemma
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:01 pm 
 

Some more Spring Cleaning (tm):
Heatenic Noiz Architect - Deathcore/Mathcore/Awfulcore
Iván Ferrús - No riffs.
Antigua y Barbuda - The Mars Volta ripoff
Reckoning Hour - More -core than metal
Mouth - Mostly bass lines and noise with not predominant, weak underlying riffs
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:56 pm 
 

Skull Transmission - No proof of VR
Netherfell - Djentcore/Folkcore
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다섯손가락/Five Fingers was deleted, rock and only accepted based on misleading reviews.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 8:18 pm 
 

There are 4 Thrashcore bands http://www.metal-archives.com/search?se ... band_genre

Can someone tell me why?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:37 pm 
 

Looks like you are itching for another 30 day break from the forums. I'll give you the courtesy of this one warning.

Your question is too vague for me to answer outright, but I believe it stands to reason that those four bands are primarily metal. If you have proof to the contrary, feel free to notify us and we will reassess.

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Azmodes
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MetalMuxxer, the term is ambiguous and it doesn't always designate what you (probably) think it designates. I have seen it used for thrashy modern metalcore (common usage nowadays, apparently), crossover thrash, nu-metal and hardcore. We are however in the process of going through all bands tagged as such and changing genres or deleting them where necessary.

Try searching for "thrashcore" on the forum and you'll find some more information about this. Try using the search function more in general.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:42 am 
 

Derigin wrote:
Netherfell - Djentcore/Folkcore


What do you mean "Djentcore/Folkcore"?
Try listening to their demo, which apparently is a mini-album, not the demo, it's pure folk metal.

What even is this djent?

Also, as I'm here writing.

Uruk-Hai should be restored based on this rule:
"Non-metal projects included arbitrarily as they are seen by the staff to belong as a part of the metal scene. Their inclusion is rare, exceptional, and discretionary of the staff."
As they are an important band of underground black-metal scene.

Another thing, Percival Shuttenbach signed a recorddeal with Sony, this means they now have worldwide distribution, so their side project "Percival" should be eligible to be added, thoughts?
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SF01 wrote:
What do you mean "Djentcore/Folkcore"?
Try listening to their demo, which apparently is a mini-album, not the demo, it's pure folk metal.

What even is this djent?


1. Netherfell is more deathcore and Djent than anything else, it definitely isn't pure folk metal.
2. Do some research about Djent, please


SF01 wrote:
Uruk-Hai should be restored based on this rule:
"Non-metal projects included arbitrarily as they are seen by the staff to belong as a part of the metal scene. Their inclusion is rare, exceptional, and discretionary of the staff."
As they are an important band of underground black-metal scene.



Do some research, just the search function, Uruk-Hai has been done to death.

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Another thing, Percival Shuttenbach signed a record deal with Sony, this means they now have worldwide distribution, so their side project "Percival" should be eligible to be added, thoughts?


Uhhh, the side project needs to have worldwise distribution, not the base band. The base band needs to be notable. Never listened to Shuttenbach and really, never heard of them so uhhh, ask Derigin about that one.
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PDS wrote:
SF01 wrote:
What do you mean "Djentcore/Folkcore"?
Try listening to their demo, which apparently is a mini-album, not the demo, it's pure folk metal.

What even is this djent?


1. Netherfell is more deathcore and Djent than anything else, it definitely isn't pure folk metal.
2. Do some research about Djent, please

1. Not on the Demo.
2. Not very impressed by what I found, good it's out of MA.


SF01 wrote:
Uruk-Hai should be restored based on this rule:
"Non-metal projects included arbitrarily as they are seen by the staff to belong as a part of the metal scene. Their inclusion is rare, exceptional, and discretionary of the staff."
As they are an important band of underground black-metal scene.



Do some research, just the search function, Uruk-Hai has been done to death.

Than maybe just for peace of mind it should be restored.

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Another thing, Percival Shuttenbach signed a record deal with Sony, this means they now have worldwide distribution, so their side project "Percival" should be eligible to be added, thoughts?


Uhhh, the side project needs to have worldwise distribution, not the base band. The base band needs to be notable. Never listened to Shuttenbach and really, never heard of them so uhhh, ask Derigin about that one.


The deal regards both incarnations. The band is more or less notable in Poland. You definitely should, though they sing in polish.
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As you'll notice, we've been re-evaluating our approach to side projects and other non-metal bands on the site. It's a slow and intermittent process as we work our way through it. The rules/guidelines are being reworked - for now, the process is internalized and exceptions can only be submitted/added by staffers. For now, any exceptions will be handled internally.

There is no longer a "mechanical" approach to exceptions, as this got away from the purpose of being a metal archive. A few guidelines from the past that are not literally applied:

-The overall notability/name recognition/fame of the primary band. - King's X's Jerry Gaskill had a side project on a major label. Despite King's X having released some metal albums, there was no doubt this project didn't belong on a metal archive)

-Distribution on a major label. - This does not qualify a side project to be on the site, it was simply a rule intended, as the rule states, to prevent a flood of submissions of bands that would ultimately be deemed insignificant for inclusion. This is a consideration, but not a qualifier.

-Technically being a "side project." - Who was in a metal band when, and other things that were rules-lawyered to excess in the past. This used to be mentioned a lot, but it completely misses the point, which is...

-Region-specific notability. - Such a caveat about a band's notability becomes an exception within an exception. It becomes unmanageable when the realm of notability is unknown to those of us making the decisions. We once had someone appeal the rejection of a noise band because "...this side project belongs to one of the precursors of using keyboards in south american black metal scene in early 90's. I think that is strong significance in metal community..." Seriously.

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Any non-metal bands on the site are exceptions. The more we discuss them, the more we find that very little non-metal should sensibly be included in a metal archive.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:20 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Was ... iscography

Checked this band out due to the dubious genre description.

Apparently, this band also put out a VHS/DVD or something:
http://www.evilaidy.com/discography.htm

But, this reeks of being only 2 audio files on the internet. Additionally, it is not metal.

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https://myspace.com/5yearson
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:33 pm 
 

Sayonara to A Drop of Joker, Electro Metalcore. Some Riffs in the 2013 EP, but not enough.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:30 am 
 

I noticed that one of my submitted bands was deleted within the last 24 hours (the current site statistics as of yesterday morning still show a total of 1241 approved bands vs. 1240 on the real-time list). I checked the last few pages of this thread but didn't see anything. If a moderator could let me know what band it was and why it was deleted I would appreciate it. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:35 am 
 

Looks like Porman deleted "Grinning Moon" with the reason "never released anything." You're very good about proof of PR, so I'm not sure why he'd delete it. That, and it would have been nice to be consulted and for it to be posted in here, too. I'll wait for his reasoning.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:04 am 
 

No problem. Thank you for looking into it. I added that band back in 2005 but I think I still have the German fanzine (Idiosyncrasy #1) that contained a review article for their demo. I would be happy to provide a scan of it when I get home if necessary, but if Porman has more concrete evidence to the contrary (i.e. a band member confirming that it was never officially released) then of course I won't argue with that.

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Porman
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Ronnie Ripper told me that it was never released officially, just a couple that were handed out to friends. A couple of the riffs ended up in Gehennah.

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Thanks for the info. It's no wonder that nobody managed to find a track listing for that tape in 10+ years.

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